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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:23:55 No.47833199 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47833205 >>47833232 >>47833342 >>47833785 >>47833930 >>47833974

How do you explain "Dark" type?
Seriously what the FUCK is Dark typing in comparison to Fire Water Grass typing??

Also, HOW IS THERE NO LIGHT TYPE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:24:36 No.47833205 Report

Quoted By: >>47833214 >>47833248 >>47834661

>>47833199
Dark is evil. It is not really darkness; it just refers to evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:27:25 No.47833214 Report

Quoted By: >>47833220

>>47833205

Like, what? That doesn't make sense kinda.

I mean all Pokemon could be inherently "evil"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:29:25 No.47833220 Report

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>>47833214
Yeah and those evil Pokemon would use Evil Moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:31:15 No.47833232 Report

Quoted By: >>47833237 >>47833248

>>47833199
It's not literal darkness; it's just malicious, ruthless, and underhanded tactics. It's even called the "Evil" type in Japan...though it still raises the question of why there's no "Holy"/Light type as a counterpart.
>inb4 "Fairy"
Fairy may be a counterpart, but holy it sure isn't; Fairies are moreso mischievous tricksters.
>inb4 "Fighting"
Sure, some Fighting-type Pokémon are heroic, but the Fighting type at its core is moreso physical fitness and martial arts than anything holy.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:32:52 No.47833237 Report

Quoted By: >>47833252

>>47833232
Gods and spirits aren't so disconnected and separate in shintoism, nor are they inherently good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:35:15 No.47833248 Report

Quoted By: >>47833259 >>47833285 >>47833360 >>47834022

>>47833205
>>47833232
Explain the move night daze then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:36:04 No.47833252 Report

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>>47833237
Thank you for opening my eyes as to how there isn't already a Light type!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:37:05 No.47833259 Report

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>>47833248
Only two lines get it, so...I dunno, black magic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:43:54 No.47833285 Report

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>>47833248
Two reasons: First, the Phys/Spec split necessitated special Dark-type moves and "dark energy" was the easiest way to approach that. Second (and related to the first point), it just sort of strayed away from its original concept as the franchise continued.

But that's definitely what it was supposed to be at first. Every single Dark-type move introduced in Gens 2 and 3 involved some kind of underhanded or brutal tactic, from stealing to striking a retreating opponent to playing dead. And the Dark-type Pokemon were all meant to be in some way sinister or sketchy rather than "shadow elementals" that you might see in a fantasy book or a JRPG or something. Although I guess, now that the Dark type has expanded to include that stuff, a Light type wouldn't really be out of the question.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 06:58:06 No.47833342 Report

Quoted By: >>47833362 >>47833375

>>47833199
I like to think of Dark as an alternate psychic type, something akin to what Zoroark represents… that is until Game Freak decided it should be the bad guy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 07:04:07 No.47833360 Report

Quoted By: >>47833779

>>47833248
Daze means to make someone unable to think or react properly, sorta like bewildering. Think of Night Daze as the user mugging the target

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 07:04:24 No.47833362 Report

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>>47833342
Unless I'm mistaken, they made it the bad guy type FIRST and then later on added "black magic" to the list of Dark-type characteristics.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 07:09:31 No.47833375 Report

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>>47833342
I always figured it was something akin to "emotional damage", since underhanded techniques can be seen as inducing stress and desperation, and even Dark Pulse's description states how it's imbued with "dark thoughts".

That said, while you can explain why there are dark attacks, it's harder to explain how there are dark Pokémon. What's different with their bodies from other types? How does their dark disposition affect their resistances? It only really works since there are other types who are described as just and/or valiant types (bug and fighting), but in any other setting it becomes really ambiguous.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:00:29 No.47833764 Report

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>>47833362
Yes. People need to stop acting like GF actually named the type "dark" and then went from there.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:04:46 No.47833779 Report

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>>47833360
It's called "Night Burst" in Japanese and is described as a shockwave. But it's not like waves of "evil energy" is some sort of new concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:10:50 No.47833785 Report

Quoted By: >>47833805

>>47833199
it means evil/shadow type. In japanese the name is literally evil type. They probably called it dark it dark in the english localization to keep the satanic panic and concerned everything groups at bay, as pokemon was in enough controversy as is.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:17:13 No.47833805 Report

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>>47833785
they called it dark in english because it's literally more accurate than "evil".

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:19:31 No.47833813 Report

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ummm...weeb bros? why didn't they call it evil aura in japanese?

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:07:48 No.47833930 Report

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>>47833199
>How do you explain "Dark" type?

Hidden tactics, mind games, dirty tricks, shadows, sometimes literal depression and misery in the case of Darkrai being alone and inflicting horrors on sleeping people without wanting too cuz it's sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:17:54 No.47833974 Report

Quoted By: >>47834023 >>47834035

>>47833199
Dark is the stupidest type conceptually. "Evil" in Japanese, but a lot of them aren't actually evil. A lot of them are assholes or fight dirty but you can't call all of them aasholes because Pokemon like Absol and Umbreon are also Dark. Also inexplicably a special type pre-gen 4 despite all of its moves becoming physical, and it also completely shares super effective coverage with Ghost

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:34:05 No.47834022 Report

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>>47833248
signature of a dark type pokemon that creates illusions, doesn't really talk for the type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:34:30 No.47834023 Report

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>>47833974
this is why absol and umbreon are the worst dark types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:37:05 No.47834035 Report

Quoted By: >>47834067

>>47833974
>aren't actually evil
>assholes or fight dirty
???

Absol is dark by associoation
Umbreon is brutal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:39:35 No.47834047 Report

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>>47834023
Absol uses the illusion that it's to blame for things because it's noble, Umbreon has fake eye marks that light up in the dark and look like scary plus it spits poison and uses the dark to hide while it does so. They're not just fluffy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:45:33 No.47834067 Report

Quoted By: >>47834078

>>47834035
Doing those things doesn't mean you're evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:49:05 No.47834078 Report

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>>47834067
That's literally what evil is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:25:24 No.47834661 Report

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>>47833205
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