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GEE GAMEFREAK, ARE YOU SURE YOU FUCKED OVER BUG TYPES ENOUGH?

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:52:16 No.47833896 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:53:10 No.47833899 Report

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bug is the actual worst type in the game. people who bitch about rock/ice/grass are retards.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 09:54:18 No.47833903 Report

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>>47833896
why in the fuck did they make fairy resist bug
>>47833899
barely a minute after OP and the schizo's already shown up

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:03:06 No.47833922 Report

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>>47833896
Completely genuine "what were they thinking" with seven types resisting bug, and even the relatively recent Fairy type also receiving a bug resist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:04:43 No.47833923 Report

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>>47833896
ground should resist bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:06:21 No.47833927 Report

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>>47833896
Bugs are weak so it makes sense that it would be resisted by a lot of things. I'd make it normal against fighting though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:13:52 No.47833960 Report

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>>47833899
>people who bitch about rock/ice/grass are retards.
It's because the majority of the Pokémon of those three typings are defensive, which doesn't work well if as they usually have one or two double-weaknesses with more weaknesses total than resistances. And in Rock's case, almost every Rock-type move has less than 100% accuracy with the only moves having 100% accuracy being:

- accelerock (exclusive to midday and dusk form lycanroc)
- rock throw (shit BP)
- ancient power (shit BP)
- power gem (shit distribution)

Moves with 90 or 95% accuracy can still miss multiple times in a row thanks to JRPG accuracy mechanics.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:29:13 No.47834004 Report

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Bug Types have some of the coolest art and concepts. But they're literally unusable even in the main game unless you overlevel the shit out of them. Even then their stats and viability are just bad. In the rare instance where you fight a dark type, psychic, or a grass type which doesn't have poison as a secondary type, you MIGHT be able to swing for big damage. But more often then not you'll be swinging for half damage against most opponents. Bug type is as advertised, because it makes you feel like a worthless bug just moments away from getting squashed.

And could probably be redeemed somehow if they decided that bugs could eat through steel, or actually fuck over one of the other types giving it at least one more offensively viable strat rather than getting bodied by literally everything. You'd be better off catching a LITERAL route-1 shitmon like the regional rat or bird than investing any significant time into training up most of the bug roster outside of their top-tiers like Volcarona. And I find the bug types that do manage to do ok are good IN-SPITE of their bug typing, and not because of it. All those weaknesses for the honor of hitting darks, grass and psychic for double damage. A feeble prize for a feeble type. But hey at least you can slap Shiftry for quadruple damage, so congrats on that I guess.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:30:28 No.47834009 Report

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>>47833960
>which doesn't work well if as they usually have one or two double-weaknesses
yeah, you're right, rhyperior is garbage because it has two double weaknesses. Oh wait no, rhyperior is actually good. Stop whining about a game you don't actually play.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:31:36 No.47834012 Report

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>>47834009
>RU
>good

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:31:49 No.47834014 Report

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>>47834004
>But they're literally unusable even in the main game unless you overlevel the shit out of them.
Stopped reading here. Play the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:33:35 No.47834020 Report

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>>47834012
>fanficshit
>the game

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:34:04 No.47834021 Report

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>>47834009
>muh Rhyperior with Solid Rock
Oh look, it's an Excadrill with Mold Breaker.

10/10 strawman that has no flaws whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:34:53 No.47834025 Report

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>>47834014
Yeah, I did, and died excessively because I used Frosmoth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:35:00 No.47834026 Report

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>>47834021
excadrill uses water and grass moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:37:30 No.47834037 Report

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>>47834026
Earthquake or High Horsepower with a Choice Band and Mold Breaker you dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:37:44 No.47834038 Report

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>>47834037
excadrill uses water and grass moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:38:44 No.47834042 Report

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>>47834020
>VGCshit
>Rhyperior being good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:51:09 No.47834082 Report

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>>47834025
>>47834004
Scizor will run rampant anywhere but a Fire gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 10:55:21 No.47834089 Report

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>>47834004
>You'd be better off catching a LITERAL route-1 shitmon like the regional rat or bird
First of all, Starly and Tailow are amazing; just because Pigeot isn't as good as Fearow or Noctowl isn't so great doesn't make all birds shit. If you catch Starly and Shinx early on in DPPt you have a pretty solid Intimidate switch cycle running most NPC's ATK stat into the ground. Not to mention all the great moves Staraptor gets like Close Combat to tear through even Byron's gym.

Second of all, Butterfree is way more useful than Raticate and Pidgey. It can take out Brock without much ado too, and this is even one of the more viable Yellow strats.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 12:43:24 No.47834442 Report

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>>47834026
>she didn't get the hydro pump drillbur

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:41:03 No.47835127 Report

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>>47833896
>>47833899
Grass is still worse.

/copypasta
Grass/Rock is resisted by 51 pokemon
Bug/Ghost is resisted by 38 pokemon
Psychic/Ground is resisted by 28 pokemon
Steel/Ghost is resisted by 20 pokemon
Poison/Ghost is resisted by 13 pokemon
Electric/Ice is resisted by 9 pokemon
Water/Flying is resisted by 9 pokemon
Fire/Dragon is resisted by 8 pokemon
Flying/Ground is resisted by 8 pokemon
Ice/Ground is resisted by 8 pokemon
Dark/Fairy is resisted by 6 pokemon
Rock/Ground is resisted by 4 pokemon
Normal/Ghost is resisted by 4 pokemon
Fairy/Ghost is resisted by 2 pokemon
Fighting/Ghost is resisted by 0 pokemon

No other typing is so thoroughly checkmated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:42:56 No.47835142 Report

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>>47835127
>Grass is still worse.
Let me know when Bug types get access to Chlorophyll and Leech Seed and Grassy Terrain and Spore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:27:47 No.47835515 Report

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>>47835142
>Lists things besides typing
>Pretends it's relevant when discussing typings
Yeah ok
>Chlorophyll
Inferior to literally any other weather speed boosting ability because Sun is bad for grass types.
>Leech Seed
Celesteela
>Grassy Terrain
Nobody cares, everything resists Grassy Glide and the other terrains are harder to deal with anyway.
>Spore
Exclusive to 3 mushroom pokemon, more notable for being used by Smeargle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:29:22 No.47835530 Report

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>>47835515
>Sun is bad for grass types.
Growth and Weather Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:31:47 No.47835546 Report

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>>47835515
>>Pretends it's relevant when discussing typings
let me know when there are non-grass types that get chlorophyll and non-grass types that get leech seed and non-grass types that get grassy terrain and non-grass types that get spore

it's amazing how things change when you play the game instead of pretending type charts exist in a vacuum

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:32:27 No.47835558 Report

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>>47835546
>non-grass types that get leech seed
Celesteela
>non-grass types that get spore
Smeargle

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:33:23 No.47835569 Report

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>>47835558
well I guess I'll keep using grass types if I need anything other than those 2 pokemon out of the hundreds that exist then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:42:38 No.47835643 Report

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>>47833896
A lot of this is because the original Gen 1 games and such were designed as JRPG's first and competitive games like, tertiary or lower priority. Outside of adding new types it hasn't changed since then so it leads to a lot of tropes that don't work well in a Competitive environment.

The original Bug-types were made to be Early-Midgame pokemon that evolved fast (putting them above most Pokemon in the early game) but fell off later into the game. GF has never decided to amend this to make the bug-type more viable for Comp or hell, even just for late-game Single player.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:43:54 No.47835657 Report

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>>47835643
There have been a handful of bugs not designed to be early game mons, and they turned out pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:47:43 No.47835684 Report

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>>47834009
Rhyperior is literal garbage and dies to Hydro Pump regardless of its ability. Oh wow, Weakness Policy, Regice can do that too, and is arguably more effective in OU despite being lower tier.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 15:50:03 No.47835709 Report

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>>47833896
Fairy resisting Bug surprised me a lot. I expected it to be weak to it.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 19:00:14 No.47837368 Report

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>>47833923
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 19:05:13 No.47837416 Report

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>>47833896
Bug's got a weird spot in the game. Like, it's kind of needed offensively to help check Dark and Psychic, but its feud with Grass is too half-assed due to all of the dual Poison types to be worth having such a massive stack of types that resist it.

>>47833899
Rock and Ice both have an absolutely gigantic number of weaknesses, Rock often as dual type weaknesses. Rock is basically just too vulnerable on the type chart to be anything other than niche. Ice is ALMOST fine, but a lot of Ice types are too subpar to run without access to Hail, especially given how many weaknesses that their type has. Even if Ice just resisted Water or something, it would be a lot more bearable.

Grass is a whole mess, because it's kind of like Rock. It has good coverage vs certain types, but it's also vulnerable as shit. But it's probably the most consistently viable out of all three of these types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 19:09:14 No.47837444 Report

Quoted By: >>47837500

>>47835657
this. pinsir (to an extent), heracross, scizor (after gen IV). Most of the bugs in gen V are actually fairly viable in-game, even early ones like sewaddle and venipede. After gen V idk much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 19:17:54 No.47837500 Report

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>>47837444
The 2 bug UBs are great.
Ribombee is okay if you need a fast web setter that can't be hit by Fake Out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 21:25:27 No.47838457 Report

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>>47834009
It's you that don't play the game, fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 21:27:43 No.47838477 Report

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>>47835709
Why the Fair folk should be weak to punny bugs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:21:26 No.47838861 Report

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>>47833899
Wrong, bug/rock/grass are almost all equally shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:22:36 No.47838867 Report

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>>47838861
No, bug is dramatically worse than the other twi you listed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:31:07 No.47838937 Report

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>>47838477
Because girly people/fairies tend to not like icky gross things like bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 23:06:22 No.47839214 Report

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>>47834009
>rhyperior is actually good
post elo and ball rank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:09:18 No.47840679 Report

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somebody post the kid with the badges

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:29:06 No.47840822 Report

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>>47833899
grass pokemon see consistent use (ferro, kart, rilla, tangrowth, venusaur, serperior, amoonguss, etc), /vp/ is just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:45:22 No.47840944 Report

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>>47834020
>rent
>free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:47:43 No.47840962 Report

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>>47835530
>Foe's Blastoise used Weather Ball!
>Venusaur fainted!

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:48:49 No.47840970 Report

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>>47840962
>venusaur moves faster due to chlorophyll and ohkos with solar beam
ok

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 02:48:52 No.47840971 Report

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>>47840962
Venusaur outspeeds in sun

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