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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:06:34 No.47834579 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Pokemon that deserve to be competitively-viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:12:36 No.47834612 Report

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>>47834579
It should get Gorilla Tactics to replace Vital Spirit

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:13:38 No.47834615 Report

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>>47834612
>replacing Vital Spirit
>with Gayrilla Tactics of all abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:13:55 No.47834618 Report

Quoted By: >>47834622

Pokemon is not a competitive game. It's like chess if you can pick your pieces. You'll just pick all queens every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:15:07 No.47834622 Report

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>>47834618
>Pokemon is not a competitive game
Room-Temp IQ take

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:17:16 No.47834629 Report

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>>47834622
You can pretend all you like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:17:21 No.47834630 Report

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>>47834615
No one would use Vital Spirit when Defiant is better and Anger Point is for flavor.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:19:08 No.47834637 Report

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>>47834622
the room is question

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:19:32 No.47834640 Report

Quoted By: >>47835078 >>47835851 >>47836165 >>47839054

Who the FUCK thought crippling a legendary Pokémon with the worst ability ever was a good idea? Jesus Christ, GF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:21:45 No.47834649 Report

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>>47834622
>Texas Hold'em is a competitive game that relies on skill and not dumb luck and RNG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:23:07 No.47834652 Report

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>>47834649
Found the unskilled retard who lost thousands at the casino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:23:56 No.47834654 Report

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>>47834652
You're confusing the game with knowing when to fold. You can be good at gambling, but texas hold 'em is still pure luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:25:11 No.47834659 Report

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>>47834654
And Pokemon is exactly the same, but replace betting and folding with switching and attacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:28:45 No.47834683 Report

Quoted By: >>47834715

>>47834659
No. It is not. Good reach though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:29:43 No.47834686 Report

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>>47834654
It's a game of luck in the short term, and a game of skill in the long term. The same applies to Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:33:50 No.47834706 Report

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>>47834630
Vital Spirit is also for flavor + is a useful if underpowered ability. What Primeape mainly needs is better stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:36:01 No.47834715 Report

Quoted By: >>47834722

>>47834683
It's literally all about predicting switches, so you can outplay your opponent all game and still lose because your opponent brainfarted and made a basic low IQ move instead of doing the smart, common sense thing. I've lost so many times because of this bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:37:36 No.47834722 Report

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>>47834715
>so you can outplay your opponent all game and still lose because you kept missing 80% accuracy moves and your opponent managed to hit you with their moves secondary effect
fix

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:35:50 No.47835078 Report

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>>47834640
It's ability should at least be less crippling. Same with Archeops and Slaking

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:04:28 No.47835840 Report

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:06:52 No.47835851 Report

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>>47834579
>>47834640
>>47835078
>>47835840
Use popular Pokémon you faggots.

YWNBAW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:13:44 No.47835904 Report

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>>47834579
Idk about competitive but I used a Primeape in Yellow and it kicked ass through most of the game with Low Kick and Karate Chop. High speed and high crit rate is fun

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:14:48 No.47835917 Report

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:17:30 No.47835940 Report

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>>47835840
>>47835917
Use Garchomp instead you faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:28:45 No.47836036 Report

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>>47835840
>nearly 8 years after CoroCoro revealed Tyrunt and the Ability Strong Jaw
>Tyrantrum is the second-weakest fully-evolved Strong Jaw user after Drednaw because Rock and Dragon STILL don't have any biting moves
>fucking PSYCHIC, the type with the LEAST business fighting with its mouth, got a biting move nearly five years ago
>>47835851
>>47835940
Buff Charizard first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:41:04 No.47836122 Report

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>>47835851
>>47835940
>More Pokemon shouldn't be buffed/be competitively good because reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:41:53 No.47836129 Report

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>>47836036
Even worse is that to even make use of Strong Jaw outside of Crunch in a gen 6 playthrough you had to go out of your way to breed a Tyrunt with the elemental fang moves which would be time-consuming given the 85.7M/12.3F gender ratio.

And Tyrantrum can learn Psychic Fangs in gen 8 via TR, one of its recent movepool additions along with High Horsepower, Dig, Close Combat, and Play Rough.

>Tyrantrum is the second-weakest fully-evolved Strong Jaw user after Drednaw because Rock and Dragon STILL don't have any biting moves
AND THIS IS A GOOD THING, HERE'S WHY
*posts a strawman on why Tyrantrum shouldn't be able to have any Rock or Dragon-type biting moves for balancing reasons*

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:45:47 No.47836159 Report

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>>47834579
I was just thinking about this the other day. Most of my favorites from Gen 1 have been viable in one format or another over the years. All except my boy Primeape. He deserves better.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:46:49 No.47836165 Report

Quoted By: >>47836278

>>47834640
It's finally His time with the release of the DP remakes.

New item: Primal Orb
>Allows Regigigas to Primal Revert to Primal Regigigas
New Ability: Titan Master
>The Pokemon gains STAB and resistance to Rock, Ice, Steel, Electric and Dragon

>inb4 whining about it being broken
Don't care. Regigigas is the super-ancient master of a legendary quintet, of course it's supposed to be strong. Not to mention it's been the laughing stock of all legendaries since Gen IV. We're talking about a 670 BST legendary that's outclassed by Stoutland and Persian. It's His time now.

New lore:
>Primal Regigigas was the original form of Regigigas before it created the other titans. It channeled its elemental powers into the five titans, leaving it weakened and powerless so it decided to retreat to snowy mountains for slumber until the appearance of a trainer powerful enough to find and capture its five creations.

There, I just saved BDSP. Just hire me Game Freak or feel free to steal my idea. You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:59:34 No.47836269 Report

Quoted By: >>47836294

>>47836129
It feels like Game Freak has some vendetta against Rock-types in particular for some reason.
>just 10 new Rock-type Pokemon in the past two generations
>just 4 new regular Rock-type moves in the past three generations
>19 total regular Rock-type moves, which seems to be the fewest of any type

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:00:46 No.47836278 Report

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>>47836165
>megashit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:02:13 No.47836288 Report

Quoted By: >>47836446

>>47835840
>Drake Fang
Dragon-type, physical, 70 BP, 100% accuracy
50% chance to boost the user's Attack by 1 stage
Boosted by Strong Jaw
Learned by all Dragon-type Mons that can already learns moves like Fire Fang, Crunch etc.

>Primal Bite
Rock-type, physical, 80 BP, 100% accuracy
Has increased critical hit ratio
Boosted by Strong Jaw
Learned by Tyrantrum, Archeops, Aerodactyl, Dracovish, Arctovish and Drednaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:02:53 No.47836294 Report

Quoted By: >>47836374

>>47836269
Don't forget Power Gem's fucktard distribution when it comes to special-attacking Rock-type Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:06:50 No.47836335 Report

Quoted By: >>47836930

>>47835851
>>47835940
What is your problem, kid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:10:12 No.47836374 Report

Quoted By: >>47836589

>>47836294
I personally can't get over Geodude, Aerodactyl, and Rhyhorn being unable to learn Head Smash despite all of them being Rock-types with the Rock Head Ability and either a demonstrated propensity for head-based moves or, in Geodude's case, literally being a rock head.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:11:59 No.47836388 Report

Quoted By: >>47837033

Mr. Mime with high defensed and an ability that powers up screen moves or protect would be nice for doubles.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:19:18 No.47836446 Report

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>>47836288
>not calling the moves "Snapdragon" and "Stalagbite/Rock Jaw"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:30:24 No.47836589 Report

Quoted By: >>47836629

>>47836374
This move fits literally none of these Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:33:54 No.47836629 Report

Quoted By: >>47836701

>>47836589
I'd be interested to know why you think that, since even having a head in the first place doesn't seem to be a requirement for learning Head Smash according to Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:39:37 No.47836701 Report

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>>47836629
>since even having a head in the first place doesn't seem to be a requirement for learning Head Smash according to Game Freak
Name one headless Pokemon that can learn Head Smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:40:43 No.47836712 Report

Quoted By: >>47837017

>>47836701
Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:59:54 No.47836930 Report

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>>47836335
He needs attention desperately

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 18:01:18 No.47836942 Report

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 18:09:15 No.47837017 Report

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>>47836712
It's hilt is it's head

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 18:11:57 No.47837033 Report

Quoted By: >>47837046

>>47836388
How tf do you power up protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 18:14:02 No.47837046 Report

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>>47837033
>How tf do you power up protect
Another carbon copy of King's Shield, Spikey Shield, Crafty Shield, or Obstruct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:05:19 No.47838732 Report

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>>47836942
Why is this steel Godzilla so wobbly?

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:47:05 No.47839054 Report

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>>47834640
>why is a nerfing ability way overboard
if GF actually understood how their own battle system works, they wouldn't tell you to do shit like win 100 times in a row at the Battle Tower

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 22:49:48 No.47839074 Report

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>>47834579
greatly increase its speed stat, like what the pokedex says it should have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 23:04:12 No.47839194 Report

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>>47836942
fuckin aggron's 3d model
looks like he's treading water in a puddle

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