>>47847929>Can be caught early only in Crystal where you don't get other good pokemon like Ampharos.Literally Ampharos is the only cut Mon in Crystal that actually matters, rest are shitmons like Girafarig. And if you care so much, you can just trade from a copy of GS.
>Body Slam is an egg move, it doesn't get Dig or Iron Tail and Rollout is bad,Okay, Donphan's learnset is pretty bad, but Defense Curl + Rollout is great. Play the game. Also, most movesets in Gens 1 + 2 (and even 3 in some cases) are shit by today's standards, in game they're perfectly fine though.
>especially if you're doing a nuzlocke.lol don't even try to use this as an argument.
>Nice, I have to waste the best TM in the game to make a shitmon even slightly viable for the E4Who is forcing you?
>Shitmons, why are you even mentioning them?Play the game. None of those are shitmons.
>b-but it's not a minmaxed ou mon with access to thunder/blizzard/fire blast so that means its a shitmon!!When will you faggots learn that it's not black and white when it comes to a Mon being good or bad, and that literally every Johto Mon is perfectly useable in-game. Same goes for every other Region btw before you say I'm being biased.
>Nice trade evosExplain why this is a bad thing.
>Good stats and typing, absolute garbage movepoolSee 2nd point. Crobat has a great learnset btw.
>Okay I guess but you would never use it in game where Quagsire, Lanturn, Vaporeon, Gyarados, Slowbro, Lapras are availableOh, so NOW Gen 1 Mons count, but only when it fits your argument. Got it.
>Good luck getting thatIt's literally 1 dungeon and an NPC battle, and both Lee and Chan are great too, so it doesn't really matter which one you get. I thought Kanto Mons didn't count, but since you can't keep a consistent argument then I am free to change mine as well.
>also I can't wait for that powerful Lv 49 Triple Kick with 30 base power total lolIt gets a base 60 STAB move upon evolution, but you're just gonna ignore that part.