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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:04:36 No.48034441 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48034454 >>48034459 >>48034475 >>48034476 >>48034652

WTF? I thought Hail was bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:06:24 No.48034454 Report

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>>48034441
Turns out /vp/ is full of retards who have no clue what they’re talking about because they only replay singleplayer instead of touching competitive. Who woulda thunk?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:06:56 No.48034459 Report

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>>48034441
Bolt/Beam coverage is one of the best STAB combinations in the game offensively
Bolt Beak is Fishious Rend except Electric Type
Arctozolt has the coverage and stats to nail everything immune or resistant to Bolt Beak
Aurora Veil is fucking busted

Do the math

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:09:36 No.48034475 Report

Quoted By: >>48035159 >>48037536

>>48034441
Yeah it was bad until alolan ninetails. Hail is still the worst weather since it doesn’t give ice types any stat buffs or power increase. Or lower the power of moves like fire types. It’s literally just aurora veil. It’s still the worst weather
>b-b-but
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:09:52 No.48034476 Report

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>>48034441
Reached the 1900s OU and currently in the 1700s NatDex both with hail, it's actually insane how good it is, one of the smoothest laddering experience I've had

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:11:53 No.48034486 Report

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>>48034476
absolutely, playing hail just feels so good with the right teams, it's incredibly solid and fun to play with, probably one of the few redeeming aspects of this generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:33:59 No.48034652 Report

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>>48034441
What's this new meme? Did one of those YouTube fags cause this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:36:42 No.48034667 Report

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>>48034652
Being hit by 170 BP and 110 BP STAB boltbeam that outspeeds the entire unboosted metagame alongside 6% chip hurts anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:39:18 No.48034681 Report

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>>48034652
There's a Doubles Hail team that got really popular a few weeks ago, if you can't tell its basically Ninetales with Aurora Veil setting up hail so Arctozolt can run wild
/vp/ being a bunch of teenagers that like to rail against popular conceptions jumped on the counterculture train against "ice is bad" or "ice/hail need a serious buff"

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:41:04 No.48034689 Report

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>>48034681
>implying those on the high ladder and tournaments are from /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:43:25 No.48034702 Report

Quoted By: >>48034706 >>48034732 >>48037584

I haven't played conpetively in a long long time. If hail is back does that mean Wallrein is useful again? Or are threats just so over the top now?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:44:28 No.48034706 Report

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>>48034702
Latter

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:47:57 No.48034732 Report

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>>48034702
Do you see Walrein on those viability rankings?
Hail pretty much exists for just Aurora Veil and Arctozolt, AKA pure offensive pressure. The reason it's good now is because a lot of the defensive cores get threatened hard by it

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:50:30 No.48034742 Report

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>tyrantrum still can't make STAB use of strong jaw
>aurorus still can't learn power gem
>aerodactyl still can't make good use of rock head
>archeops still has defeatist for VGC balancing
>armaldo not being able to learn first impression
>ice is still shit for defense "but muh aurora veil XDDDD"
>gen 8 fossils being blatantly OP
>charizard shilling
>meganium still being an absolute joke
>cinderace and the twig known as inteleon
>"play the game"
>coomer threads

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:52:11 No.48034750 Report

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based icechads

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 06:17:51 No.48035159 Report

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who do i believe
>this very pathetic anon >>48034475 saying hail is the worst and prob has 1200 elo
>a bunch of tourneyfags and leaders that extensively know the meta and its changes, actively participating their analyses with each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 12:42:24 No.48036992 Report

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Give Arctozolt Swords Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 12:45:25 No.48037004 Report

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>>48034742
Play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 12:46:50 No.48037016 Report

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>>48035159
both
hail is shit in a vacuum and by itself, but the pokemon that set/ use weather are more important than the details of the weather

they could make a weather that goes "all your pokemons stats drop upon entry", but adding a pokemon with a +5 priority move that goes "instant kill if shitweather is in effect" would make it good anyway

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 14:01:07 No.48037536 Report

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>>48034475
>ninetails
It's been Ninetales for two decades now

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Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 14:05:39 No.48037584 Report

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>>48034702
Wallrein cant work with limited hail turns, his deal was stalling.
They are also discussing hail in DP UU because of how good wallrein is there.

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