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ITT: Tracks ruined in remakes/later versions

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:25:52 No.48068029 View View Reply Original Report

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https://youtu.be/WuxT9OQ4OyQ
https://youtu.be/qU9FnTBtVyE

https://youtu.be/o09AO8OH8BU
https://youtu.be/L5AwqvlTU20

https://youtu.be/srNF-ktSH34
https://youtu.be/-FGC-DmPUnU

https://youtu.be/qW1yFnmLKOU
https://youtu.be/MhF4TqGb_aE

https://youtu.be/Yx_h8oIgmsE
https://youtu.be/niH72ICTrTc

https://youtu.be/kMcfQSXcZ3I
https://youtu.be/6HMHjvm11Gk

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Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:27:15 No.48068042 Report

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Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:50:22 No.48068276 Report

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>>48068029
I like and appreciate each GSC track and its HGSS counterpart on its own merit. To compare regardless of their separate contexts and intentions seems to be needlessly obtuse and just misses the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:51:45 No.48068286 Report

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>>48068029
national park, route 113, most of FRLG.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:54:04 No.48068304 Report

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>dp remakes will butcher the original soundtrack and the masses will regard it as the best rendition of it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 16:59:12 No.48068368 Report

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>>48068276
Pretty much this. Nice reminder that HGSS was the last game in this franchise with ambition, and that translates into a soundtrack that was unafraid to change shit around even if not always for the best

The opposite of that would be shit like the LGPE soundtrack. Souless, safe, almost machine-like renditions of the original tracks. Thinking BDSP will go the same route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 17:03:03 No.48068407 Report

Quoted By: >>48072660 >>48075993 >>48077723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5LiwvRpVMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF6HIZQ9K7s

Downgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 17:08:01 No.48068456 Report

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>>48068286
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sfpZSvKbavY
>bad
Embarrassing shit taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 17:09:16 No.48068474 Report

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>>48068029
I'm sorry anon, I feel physically unable to feel any hatred towards the HGSS OST
I do understand the og tracks were aiming for something different
But I just can't say they got ruined

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 17:22:00 No.48068605 Report

Quoted By: >>48069141 >>48069295 >>48069962 >>48072395 >>48076014 >>48076072

>>48068029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTKfjLDt-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJKbcrFKME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFtCQNfbEss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXKasQG5M4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXKpIBgAXWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMFtAR-sCEM
HGSS surf theme is not bad, I just prefer the originale one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:11:59 No.48069141 Report

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>>48068605
why the FUCK did they use a xylophone for the 8-bit sounds
are they LITERALLY that FUCKING INCOMPETENT
what the actual fuck
i fucking hate game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:14:45 No.48069168 Report

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>>48068456
It lacks that acid bass drop in the original

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:17:56 No.48069194 Report

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>>48068456
This is garbage. The problem with HGSS is that they try too hard to make the tracks fancy and remixed with pointless padding when the appeal of the original was how simple it was. Why does it take 15 fucking seconds just to get to the main melody?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:21:00 No.48069223 Report

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>>48069194
You sound like the type of fag that defends BDSP for being a "1:1 remake"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:21:43 No.48069230 Report

Quoted By: >>48077184

>>48068029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnxOgR1yxPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEw-QYclRCw

The platinum version of the Regi Trio is Resident Evil Director's Cut Basement level of bad. It must have been rushed or something at least every other remix after this sounds much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:22:53 No.48069238 Report

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>>48069141
the lgpe ost is entirely midislaps, beta leaks contain some renders of the piano-only source files
with how lifeless the fauxestration is do you really expect them to think about the tools they have at their disposal and do you really expect bdsm's ost to be any good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:23:33 No.48069244 Report

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>>48068029
say what you want about the dppt soundfont but in the trailer the tracks lost a lot of their charm in the same way oras did

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:28:37 No.48069295 Report

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>>48068304
>>48068605
god I fucking hate kageyama

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:31:51 No.48069315 Report

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https://youtu.be/h92NII_daio
https://youtu.be/GjltP8GISJE
I’m disappointed this didn’t get a Colosseum remix like with other RSE battle tracks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:32:03 No.48069316 Report

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>>48069295
Isn't he handling BDSP as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:37:04 No.48069363 Report

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>>48069316
yep
he's the absolutely last person who should be touching DP's soundtrack so of course he's the one doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:39:03 No.48069381 Report

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>>48068029
Anon YOU FAGGOT I AGREED WITH YOU UP TILL ROUTE 32

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:40:19 No.48069394 Report

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What I dont understand is why they even changed GB sounds? What's the point? They sounded different for seemingly no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:41:19 No.48069411 Report

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>>48069394
something to do with the hardware I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:42:22 No.48069428 Report

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>>48069394
Something regarding the DS sound chip, it couldn't replicate exactly 1:1 the gameboy's songs. They COULD have done something like Kingdom Hearts and played em as MP3s but that would have drastically increased the file size.

While they sound like shit, the ORAS onwards shouldn't have dropped it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:43:28 No.48069441 Report

Quoted By: >>48069496

>>48069381
Okay, in all honesty Route 32 is probably the best out of all of them. I still much prefer the original though. I just hate that muddy DS snare. In the original tracks the snare was used to really give that "march on" feeling. In HGSS, that feeling is completely lost. Route 38 is the worst offender. It sounds absolutely lifeless in HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:47:11 No.48069496 Report

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>>48069441
should have used these, like holy shit way to miss the intention they were going for and have the original beat only be noticeable with headphones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqmIkCYOSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAnBYBGEif0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:51:41 No.48069546 Report

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>>48069194
try taking your adhd meds bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 18:56:57 No.48069604 Report

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>>48069496
I actually think HGSS Dark Cave is fitting for Ice Path. It sounds like they made it with Ice Path in mind, since it's the only mandatory dungeon that uses this track. But yeah, comparing them, GSC Dark Cave is superior by far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 19:26:43 No.48069962 Report

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>>48068605
I'll agree that most ORAS tracks are inferior to their RSE counterparts but theres something about that dripping sound effect that makes 113 better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 20:02:12 No.48070401 Report

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>>48068029
Most of ORAS ost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 21:53:47 No.48071843 Report

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>>48069295
minako adachi was the one who ruined rse

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Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 22:43:07 No.48072395 Report

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>>48068605
Damn. ORAS 113 is an assault on humanity and I'm not even much of a RSE soundtrack fan.

Can only imagine being a fan, reaching 113 for the first time on ORAS and fighting the urge to throw the portable out of the window. Dreading this will be the case when I get to the Sinnoh big hitters on the remake like 203, 210, 216, Jubilife...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:06:59 No.48072630 Report

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>>48068029
Hard agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:10:41 No.48072660 Report

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>>48068407
hello? based department?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:11:04 No.48072667 Report

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>>48068029
This probably won't count but this is technically a downgrade thread so...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlhA6i7Ynd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2x0KQIO84A

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:13:10 No.48072681 Report

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good lord this thread is something else

i can feel my own soul leaving my body with every remix i open

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:13:18 No.48072682 Report

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>>48072395
The person who remade ORAS's soundtrack is confirmed to be working on BDSP. Might as well give your switch a funeral now, if you plan on buying BDSP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:15:15 No.48072699 Report

Quoted By: >>48072907

This is HGSS's worst offender by far. What were they thinking...

https://youtu.be/qA4OLGX-mhE
https://youtu.be/T8_knSu-96c

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Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:16:29 No.48072707 Report

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How has no one posted this yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:40:01 No.48072907 Report

Quoted By: >>48072913 >>48072995

>>48072699
How is worse than HGSS Goldenrod?
I guess I can't complain much though since they gave us GB Sounds as an option in the postgame of HGSS, unlike FRLG and ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:40:52 No.48072913 Report

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>>48072907
They just removed all the energy and hype. It's not a bad track per se, it just doesn't live up to the original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Aug 2021 23:51:46 No.48072995 Report

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>>48072907
I remember HATING HGSS's version of Goldenrod when I first heard it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 01:12:33 No.48073717 Report

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>>48072707
At least the new songs like soaring were good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 07:51:34 No.48075702 Report

Quoted By: >>48075726

The entirety of ORAS

Especially the battle themes.

Only the remakes of the original themes though, Zinnia's theme is lit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 08:00:50 No.48075726 Report

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>>48068029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjouKSkSeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7BFl5TyTbQ

I love HGSS but they fucking butchered the soundtrack, and GB Sounds being similar but not quite the same as the old soundtrack just rubs salt in the wound.

>>48075702
I dunno, the Magma/Aqua Leader theme is pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 08:27:53 No.48075798 Report

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I don't think that HGSS has a bad soundtrack, but you have to have a certain mindset to appreciate it. It's very celebratory, very nostalgic. It's like the music was made with the assumption you've played Gen II and are intimately familiar with its music, so it tries to give you something familiar yet also new. It's saying "Here it finally is, the long-awaited remakes for one of the most beloved releases". It feels like it was made with love for a lot of the older fans, in the same way you might go to a live event for video game music and liberties are taken with the tracks so that they're not just the same experience.

That being said, you could also look at it as being the first time some people will ever experience Gen II. GSC's music is fresher, it captures the original feelings of the region so much better for a first adventure. It's not an identical feeling with the more remixed take on the music in HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 09:39:49 No.48075985 Report

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>>48068029
>Route 29
Sounds like arse no matter the version

>Route 30
Sounds great in both versions

>Route 32
Genuinely ruined in the second version

>Route 38
If anything, brought to life by the remake

>Route 42
>Route 26
Both good, with a different feeling

1 ruined, 1 improved, and the rest about level with their pre-existing performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 09:42:53 No.48075993 Report

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>>48068407
I like the second one, but it's no match for the original Fortree. Totally different tone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 09:48:55 No.48076014 Report

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>>48068605
What is the point of posting half hour versions in a thread like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 10:06:10 No.48076072 Report

Quoted By: >>48077739

>>48068605
>Route 113
Both good in their own way. The former is more grand, the later more flowing, both soothing.

>Pokemon Mansion
See, I didn't think I'd like the LG version at all but it's pretty good. It's not a sinister tech-crone classic like the original but it has this children's toybox gone wrong vibe. Nintendo always add a twist of this stuff in their seemingly softest content, like the Yoshi games.

>Surf
Yeah they're both good in their own ways. Former more grand, a clear precursor to the sailing music in Wind Waker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 10:25:46 No.48076150 Report

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>>48072667
jesus christ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 10:28:23 No.48076163 Report

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I think this one is decent though, specially considering the ear raping capacities of the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyITttZd-ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqktEaCiI4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 13:39:48 No.48077184 Report

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>>48069230
Yeah this is an actual example of a hard downgrade. Not that it sucks, but it feels like it was made in the old game. Only the kick in of the drums 30s in makes it worthwhile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 13:54:21 No.48077275 Report

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>>48069315
Not completely ruined, although I've noticed that a lot of these remixes suck at the start and become more tolerable after the opening bars. Imcomparable to the original, which is still my absolute favourite fight theme from Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:06:50 No.48077367 Report

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>>48069496
I enjoyed both, but the former is so much richer. Bleeps and bloops open up the imagination in a fashion incomparable to any other medium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:08:17 No.48077372 Report

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>>48072667
They're both awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:38:01 No.48077616 Report

Quoted By: >>48079928

>>48068029
Most of the HGSS remixes were pretty bad. I had to turn on Gameboy sounds as soon as I unlocked it. This is the worst offender in my opinion:
https://youtu.be/XVgKMhfuppc
https://youtu.be/WB1nJq5V828

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:39:20 No.48077631 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof0vH_5sx8&t=8s&ab_channel=OfficialVGM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:41:34 No.48077662 Report

Quoted By: >>48077759

>>48068368
LGPE soundtrack was good though. It was very reminiscent of the anime original series OST. HGSS soundtrack was way too busy and ambitious for the DS. It just sounds cluttered and tinny. A lot of the HGSS soundtrack gives you almost the opposite feeling from the GSC tracks it remixes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:48:36 No.48077723 Report

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>>48068407
Second one sounds like is belongs in a Zelda game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:50:36 No.48077739 Report

Quoted By: >>48079936

>>48076072
>ORAS Route 113
>Jerks off in the background

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 14:52:41 No.48077759 Report

Quoted By: >>48078322

>>48077662
>LGPE soundtrack was good
https://youtu.be/d95Xafn53Yw
https://youtu.be/SzvNnL3PGXY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 15:54:58 No.48078322 Report

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>>48077759
why didn't they just use the anime soundtrack

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Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 16:18:14 No.48078537 Report

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>>48072667
This is why I don't play ROM hacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 16:35:59 No.48078694 Report

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>>48068029
The DS games have an upper hand by virtue of not making your ears bleed
Gameboy sounds are really fucking bad compared to anything that came later

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Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 16:49:42 No.48078793 Report

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This thread is just proof that Masuda peaked in the 1990's. Actually, I think Japan as a whole peaked in the 90's. Pokemon Generation 2 and Iron Chef both ended in 2002, and the entire country has been going downhill ever since.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 17:29:48 No.48079060 Report

Quoted By: >>48079375

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZobOoj9sz7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlsHqqv-InE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXleqIOolIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HumEKUvTksE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 18:05:03 No.48079375 Report

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>>48079060
Those are upgrades though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 19:00:46 No.48079928 Report

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>>48077616
Honestly this is the only example in this entire thread of a truly ruined song. It's not terrible the second one, but a) worse and b) completely different and missing the point. It's how, say, a music piece for a village whose residents migrated from Goldenrod should sound. NOT Goldenrod itself!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 19:01:48 No.48079936 Report

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>>48077739
Kek, let's be honest someone probably is. If floor tiles can scratch a man's itch then Route 113 ORAS-edition will work wonders.

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