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Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:18:39 No.48084180 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48084304 >>48084408 >>48084785 >>48084799 >>48086860 >>48086894

>dragon type attacking moves went from completely overpowered to practically unused
What was a good middle ground game freak could of taken other than the fairy turbonerf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:19:45 No.48084185 Report

Quoted By: >>48084202 >>48084214 >>48084251 >>48086831

Just make fairy resist instead of immune and it's fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:24:48 No.48084202 Report

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>>48084185
And make Ice resist Fairy as a "fuck you".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:27:04 No.48084214 Report

Quoted By: >>48084300

>>48084185
Do this and just lower the base power of dragon moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:31:13 No.48084244 Report

Quoted By: >>48084300 >>48084420

Someone didn't have to deal with multiple generations of nonstop Outrage spam I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:32:53 No.48084251 Report

Quoted By: >>48084300 >>48084362 >>48086896

>>48084185
Nope. Choice band outrage spam was so outrageous because even switching in your max defense forretress would cause you to just die in like 2 hits. It was so effective because 2X resist was the best you could achieve. There are technically a couple of steel/fairy pokemon, but there is still way too little options to defend against a dragon attack like that. Maybe if outrage also caused recoil or something, it alone was the problematic move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:41:32 No.48084300 Report

Quoted By: >>48084362

>>48084214
>>48084244
>>48084251
It's simple, we remove the outrage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:42:06 No.48084304 Report

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>>48084180
>practically unused
play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:49:56 No.48084362 Report

Quoted By: >>48084405

>>48084300
Then they just start using Draco Meteor.
>>48084251
Don't forget about Drag + Mag made to kill the steels that stop the rampage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:56:10 No.48084405 Report

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>>48084362
It's simple, we remove Draco Meteor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:56:31 No.48084408 Report

Quoted By: >>48084478

>>48084180
>mfw steelchad
>mfw only got 2 resists downgraded to neutral and picked up one new resist
>mfw dodged the nerf thanks to dragons despite steels making up top usage stats for years by the time gen 5 came around
no more nerfs, every type is perfectly balanced and fair now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 03:58:04 No.48084420 Report

Quoted By: >>48084619

>>48084244
No you're just illiterate. I asked for a middle ground not zero change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 04:07:19 No.48084478 Report

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>>48084408
>every type is perfectly balanced and fair now
You may as well post a frog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 04:28:36 No.48084619 Report

Quoted By: >>48084761

>>48084420
The middle ground already exists. Dragon is a good typing with 1 resist and 1 immunity, the "middle ground" is being able to shitstomp 15 of the 17 types but being countered by exactly 1 of them, combined with the average dragon having a massive BST leaves you without much room to complain unless you genuinely cannot cope with the idea of Dragon type following the rules every other type in the game has to follow, you cocksucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 04:57:02 No.48084761 Report

Quoted By: >>48084767 >>48084780

>>48084619
>Dragon
>A good type.
No, just no. Defensively? Sure it is an okay type but it has 0 SE outside itself.
There is a reason the good dragon types where all Dual. Dragon Type is good at complementing good types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 04:59:28 No.48084767 Report

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>>48084761
>but it has 0 SE
Doesn't matter because almost nothing resists it. Play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:04:42 No.48084780 Report

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>>48084761
Never thought I'd hear someone say Dragon is a bad typing lmao, a new breed of retard is born every day I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:05:34 No.48084785 Report

Quoted By: >>48084790 >>48084794

>>48084180
Many problems with balancing exist not because of resistances. It all about moves.
>Ice is shit
-Give Icebeam only for cold water pokemon and scald for warm water
-Make snow weather that slows down not ice mons
>Rock is shit
Give rollout + speed buff
Give Sneaky stones JUST for rock types and give it priority
>Grass is shit
Give more hp gain for grass types on grassy terrain
Bring back rototiler but now it boosts speed, and deffences for grass types
Make moreinteresting healing utility moves (If pokemon has special condition and its healed it heals +30% hp more)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:07:06 No.48084790 Report

Quoted By: >>48084803 >>48084832 >>48085264

>>48084785
None of those types are shit. The fact people constantly cry about Ice/Rock/Grass but barely bitch about the actual shit type (Bug) just demonstrates how fucking no one here actually plays the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:07:27 No.48084794 Report

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>>48084785
Oh I forgot - Make rocky terrain that speed up x2) any rock types)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:08:59 No.48084799 Report

Quoted By: >>48085218 >>48086874

>>48084180
dragonfags have the biggest victim complex in the pokemon community

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:10:01 No.48084803 Report

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>>48084790
>Bug is shit
Boost swarm ability that it raises all stats for each bug on your side
Give bug a priority move (40 power)
Give bugs attack that Paralyzes and confuses at once (5pp, 80% hit)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:18:59 No.48084832 Report

Quoted By: >>48084853 >>48084898

>>48084790
>The fact people constantly cry about Ice/Rock/Grass
Let's see:
A defensive Pokémon shouldn't have two double-weaknesses like with Aggron, Aurorus, Rhyperior (inb4 muh Solid Rock), or Frosmoth, nor should a defensive Pokémon be weak to literally half of the entire type chart like with Tyranitar and Abomasnow both having 7 weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:23:31 No.48084848 Report

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Buff ice instead, make it more viable and Dragon would have enough counters, combined with this fairy nerf
Make Ice resist dragon too, for good measure
fuck, just give it more resistances in general, please

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:24:21 No.48084853 Report

Quoted By: >>48085101

>>48084832
Aurorus is usable, Rhyperior is good, and Tyranitar is one of the best Pokemon in the game.

>WAAAAAAH MUH WEAKNESSES
man if only there was an item that took advantage of this
man if only there was a move that you let you take 50% less damage for 5-8 turns
man if only there was a weather condition that reduced damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 05:35:47 No.48084898 Report

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>>48084832
>A defensive Pokémon shouldn't have two double-weaknesses
As I said. Weaknesses are not the problem. The fact that every thing can learn strong fighting moves quickly is. Its once again problem with movesets

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 06:27:01 No.48085101 Report

Quoted By: >>48085118

>>48084853
>Rhyperior is good
Is that... an Excadrill with Mold Breaker? OHNONONONO RHYPERIORBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 06:31:20 No.48085118 Report

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>>48085101
>weakness policy triggered
>excadrill dead on the same turn
gg retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 06:54:17 No.48085218 Report

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>>48084799
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 07:01:52 No.48085264 Report

Quoted By: >>48085281

>>48084790
ah I see the bug schizo is back

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 07:05:02 No.48085281 Report

Quoted By: >>48085567

>>48085264
I’m sorry that I play the game instead of staring at type charts anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 07:55:34 No.48085567 Report

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>>48085281
Get help please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 08:06:36 No.48085638 Report

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>48085281
No (You)s for (You).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 11:38:46 No.48086831 Report

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>>48084185
make fairy weak to normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 11:44:59 No.48086860 Report

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>>48084180
This is plain wrong, nothing used Dragon moves as unstabbed coverage before fairies and nothing does it now. Dragons still use Draco Meteor and Outrage because the neutral coverage is still above average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 11:47:32 No.48086874 Report

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>>48084799
kek yup

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 11:50:37 No.48086894 Report

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>>48084180
Literally just lower Draco and Outrage damage since that's all that was used

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 11:50:46 No.48086896 Report

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>>48084251
then make ice resist dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 12:13:54 No.48087026 Report

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Dragons needed a nerf, but fairies are cancer. At least my poison bros got a buff by proxy.

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