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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:05:17 No.48095287 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48095310 >>48095348 >>48095533 >>48095587 >>48097918 >>48097968 >>48099197 >>48099315

There. In five minutes I just made a team entirely out of Viable/Good/Usable Gen2 mons, that are all easily catchable in Johto itself and all before the 5th badge. And all without repeating a single type and without even using a starter. Stop saying you can't make a good Johto team

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:11:07 No.48095310 Report

Quoted By: >>48095348 >>48095355 >>48095672 >>48095846 >>48098992

>>48095287
>friendship
>not in crystal
>need to win the fucking bug catching contest of all things
>okay
>friendship
>hard to find headbutt tree
>all easily catchable in Johto itself
"No!"

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:20:27 No.48095348 Report

Quoted By: >>48095406

>>48095287
>Bellossom
Ehhh, I've used one in a Crystal playthrough in the past but it doesn't stack up to Victreebel or even Vileplume honestly.
>>48095310
Yes, there's online tools to find Headbutt trees now. And yes, Friendship evolutions are feasible unless you're constantly letting your dudes faint, though I can't imagine how you'd suck so hard at GSC. Post your last team.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:22:31 No.48095355 Report

Quoted By: >>48095406

Espeon's way more useful than Umbreon, who can't dish out hits for anything.

>>48095310
winning the bug catching contest is arguably less tedious than friendship. You just save beforehand and spam pokeballs on the first pinsir/scyther you see at full hp, and if you don't get first, reset and do it again

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:43:09 No.48095406 Report

Quoted By: >>48095698 >>48097689 >>48105222

>>48095348
>there's online tools to find Headbutt trees now
If you need an online tool to find your fucking Pokemon, something is wrong.
>Friendship evolutions are feasible unless you're constantly letting your dudes faint,
You mean feasible if you want to run around for 1000000 steps so they can suddenly like me for some reason, friendship is a garbage mechanic why gen 2 expanded upon it from yellow is incomprehensible
>Post your last team
Pic related, just for fun too I only allowed myself 6 mons total for the run and established permadeath, no items, and no grinding off wild mons or trainers and still cleared it easily. Johto is a joke. I guess it makes up for if you want to use the countless shitmons the game shovels your direction

>>48095355
Sure, but it's more that you have to know that said contest has a no. 1 prize of a Sun Stone, participate on the contest which is only on certain days and then win. Also if I recall isn't there a certain trainer who will literally always beat you no matter what you do?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 07:26:06 No.48095533 Report

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>>48095287
Replace Bellossum with any starter and I agree.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 07:53:00 No.48095587 Report

Quoted By: >>48095623

>>48095287
Espeon > Umbreon

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:12:21 No.48095623 Report

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>>48095587
Xatu > Espeon

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:36:24 No.48095672 Report

Quoted By: >>48097879

>>48095310
I rarely browse here or other Pokemon discussion places for that matter, but I'm surprised to see someone take issue with the friendship mechanic. For at least it's very inoffensive.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:49:04 No.48095698 Report

Quoted By: >>48097879 >>48105222

>>48095406
No there isnt, bug contest is ez
>find a pokemon with the highest possible level (14 pinsir/scyther), sleep it with full hp and just start pelting balls. You will literally never lose

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 09:44:38 No.48095846 Report

Quoted By: >>48097879

>>48095310
>golbat is highly usable until you get enough friendship through walking+levels for crobat
>mareep’s in gold/silver/hg/ss and you can just use magnemite in crystal
>bug catching contest is easily winnable you shitter, you can save right before the event
>>
>getting friendship on a single mon is very doable especially since you get Eevee in a town with the haircut brothers and access to vitamins
>30% encounter rate in static trees
Yes you fucking retard those are perfectly good options.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 15:14:14 No.48097689 Report

Quoted By: >>48097879

>>48095406
>If you need an online tool to find your fucking Pokemon, something is wrong.
Don't need it, but it makes it easier than ever before. Trial and error adds to the experience of finding a rare bug that can break the game long before ever getting its good STAB

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 15:36:16 No.48097879 Report

Quoted By: >>48098951 >>48100116

>>48095672
It's a dogshit mechanic that literally no one likes, literally just artificially extends when you can evolve your Pokemon. If you play your game like an autist and waste 100s of hours walking around sure but for adults who'd like to get things done at a reasonable pace it's terrible
>>48095698
Fair enough, but again, how would you know you can get a sun stone as the first place prize? If you want to use bellossom you're not even going to compute you need to participate in a BUG catching contest
>>48095846
>muh friendship!
See above
>mareep
Just pointing out that it's not in the version of the game most people play or get recommended other than the remakes
>bug catching contest
Completely missing the point, see above
> rate in static trees
That you don't know where they are unless you use an online tool

Is this the power of johtozoomies? They have to look up everything online to play their game?
>>48097689
One, you don't know it exists
Two, you don't know that's how you get it
Three, how does it "break the game"? Its strongest and best move for a long time is Horn Attack
Four, why wouldn't I just use it over something like Butterfree or hell if I'm going to participate in the bug catching contest scyther or pinsir?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 15:40:11 No.48097918 Report

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>>48095287
Bellossom isn't good, Bellossom and Heracross are difficult to catch, and Ampharos isn't in Crystal.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 15:46:19 No.48097968 Report

Quoted By: >>48099055

>>48095287
Well that's pretty much the only viable team you can make with early Gen 2 mons anyway so... yeah

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 17:41:14 No.48098951 Report

Quoted By: >>48099830

>>48097879
>muh friendship!
Two friendship evos are easily done at a “reasonable pace”. Golbat can be done passively (evolves around 40 or 45, pretty normal for a third stage mon) and Eevee is found in the same town as the haircut brothers and vitamins. There is no excuse.
>Just pointing out that it's not in the version of the game most people play or get recommended other than the remakes
Don’t care, it’s a good mon and Magneton is equivalent for Crystal.
>bug catching contest
>Completely missing the point, see above
Sun Stone is the only 1st place prize in gen 2 in an easy minigame that you can save in front of before entering and reset if you somehow don’t get it the first time. You’re mad that you have to explore the game and use its content instead of instantly getting the best mons upfront in grass along mandatory routes.
> rate in static trees
>That you don't know where they are unless you use an online tool
Just headbutt multiple trees? If you couldn’t figure it out (by taking a few minutes to try different trees) magazine guides and shit like GameFAQs existed back then for your dumb ass

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 17:46:28 No.48098992 Report

Quoted By: >>48099830

>>48095310
>nooooo it's too hard to get pokeymans in this game made for 10-year-old children
Literally just play the game. OP could swap Ampharos for Ursaring or Donphan, since you can actually acquire their pre-evos in Crystal before reaching Violet City. Cope.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 17:55:46 No.48099055 Report

Quoted By: >>48102039

>>48097968
Nope.
>Ursaring
>Donphan
>Togetic
>Espeon
>Miltank
>Lanturn
>Jumpluff
>Mantine
>Granbull
>Xatu
>Sudowoodo
>Slowking
>Politoed
>Steelix
>Scizor
All of these are available before the fifth badge in GSC.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 18:12:57 No.48099197 Report

Quoted By: >>48099232

>>48095287
>Quagsire
>Umbreon
No

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 18:17:07 No.48099232 Report

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>>48099197
Umbreon is a pain to use ingame, but Chadsire is good.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 18:26:38 No.48099315 Report

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>>48095287
You can easily make a good Johto team. You just need to use both Gen 1 and Gen 2 Pokemon

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 19:21:19 No.48099830 Report

Quoted By: >>48100051 >>48100512 >>48101007

>>48098951
>Golbat can be done passively (evolves around 40 or 45, pretty normal for a third stage mon)
Cool, you get to lug around a shitmon for the vast majority of the game then.
>Eevee is found in the same town as the haircut brothers and vitamins
The former of which is once a day and the latter are extremely expensive.
>and Magneton is equivalent for Crystal
But OP didn't pick Magneton, did he? That would go against the narrative the selection of Johtomons is piss fucking poor.
>You’re mad that you have to explore the game and use its content
There's a difference between exploring and doing this random out of the way thing that's not even focused on Bellossom or grass Pokemon that would actually benefit from the Sun Stone. It's piss poor game design.
>Just headbutt multiple trees?
Again, you don't know it exists or you're vaguely aware it exists, you have to engage with an already fairly obscure mechanic to use it, you have to know it's in the trees and since you think trees work like random encounters you don't know it's actually just in random trees. All this for a Pokemon with a terrible levelup moveset that barely gets better with TMs.
Fuck off with your "j-just use the guide" nonsense, there's hiding or obscuring stuff in a clever way that makes the player actually have to think and then there's shit like Heracross that makes you buy or use out of game resources.
>>48098992
>OP could swap Ampharos for Ursaring or Donphan
Indeed, OP could have, but he chose some extremely retarded options. I'm calling him out for them. The fact you're getting mad when we seem to agree shows your skin is a millimeter thick, too.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 19:47:41 No.48100051 Report

Quoted By: >>48100578 >>48100697

>>48099830
>he chose some extremely retarded options
Ampharos is a good pick, though. It's just not available in Crystal. His only bad picks are Bellossom (worse than Vileplume for an ingame team) and Umbreon (worse than Espeon for an ingame team). You can catch Miltank around the same time you get both of those Pokemon, and it his extremely hard with Stomp or Return.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 19:57:47 No.48100116 Report

Quoted By: >>48100697

>>48097879
>One, you don't know it exists
Word of mouth from y'know, friends. Magazines if you were too much of a loser?
>Two, you don't know that's how you get it
See above.
>Three, how does it "break the game"? Its strongest and best move for a long time is Horn Attack
You can teach it Headbutt and have it flinch everything to death with that absurd Attack stat and decent speed, plus Badge Boosts as you get further along. It can take hits too.
>HP: 80
>Attack: 125
>Defense: 75
>Sp. Def: 95
>Speed: 85

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 20:41:19 No.48100512 Report

Quoted By: >>48100705

>>48099830
>Cool, you get to lug around a shitmon for the vast majority of the game then.
No, it’s fine ingame. It’s not even Ledian-tier. Stop replying just for the sake of replying, you have no point.
>But OP didn't pick Magneton, did he? That would go against the narrative the selection of Johtomons is piss fucking poor.
The point is Ampharos is good and only one out of five associated johto games doesn’t feature it, instead featuring essentially a 1:1 replacement
>There's a difference between exploring and doing this random out of the way thing that's not even focused on Bellossom or grass Pokemon that would actually benefit from the Sun Stone. It's piss poor game design.
It’s not explicitly labeled “IF YOU WANT TO EVOLVE BELLOSSOM COME HERE!!!” so it’s bad game design? Fuck off retard. It’s an easy enough minigame with one (1) reward for first place which you’d naturally be trying to get and can reset for. It’s not hard to miss in the slightest.
>Heracross novel
Yes it’s perfectly fine. The pokedex gives you its area iirc and if you merely alternate trees looking for it it comes up quickly given that it has a 30% encounter rate. People with zero attention span/resourcefulness/criticial thinking like you are the reason the series has gone to shit and regions are a straight line and/or throw legendaries at you for free.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 20:48:15 No.48100578 Report

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>>48100051
Bellossom is better than Vileplume ingame since it’s available by Goldenrod instead of postgame

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:02:18 No.48100697 Report

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>>48100051
>It's just not available in Crystal.
That's a pretty big deal when Crystal is usually seen as the definitive Gen 2 game.
Miltank is yet another good mon he didn't include, yes.
>>48100116
>Word of mouth from y'know, friends
>Instead of ME going out and buying the guide to find the thing I rely on other people going out and buying the guide!
You sound like a fantastic person.
>You can teach it Headbutt and have it flinch everything to death with that absurd Attack stat and decent speed
85 Speed isn't great but y'know what, I'll give you this since Johto is piss easy to where you can use fucking Ledian and break it in half.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:03:20 No.48100705 Report

Quoted By: >>48100798

>>48100512
>>48100512
>It’s not even Ledian-tier
>Heh! This mon is better than [worthless shitmon] so it's good and fun to use!
No.
>and only one out of five associated johto games
You mean, pretty much 3.
It's not like people tend to play the 'base' games of each generation once the third version comes out.
>It’s not explicitly labeled “IF YOU WANT TO EVOLVE BELLOSSOM COME HERE!!!” so it’s bad game design
No, but it would be nice to have an indicator of what the prizes for the event are, and it might be good to have the hint that Gloom even has a second evolution you can trigger via Sun Stone. Moreover kids coming from RBY would likely be looking for a Leaf Stone to evolve their Gloom, and probably not find one because of how fucking convoluted it is to get stones in GSC.
I know you're so used to Pokemon's inherent atrocious design elements that you'll pardon them out of Stockholm Syndrome, but you can at least try not to be embarrassing about it.
>The pokedex gives you its area iirc and if you merely alternate trees looking for it it comes up quickly given that it has a 30% encounter rate
Where are you finding a Heracross for the Dex? Furthermore how would a player know it's actually in specific trees? Or the routes where there's grass nearby and they would logically look there instead? Instead you go with the most frustrating and tedious method possible and fuck you if you think any kid or person is willing to spend time on that.
>like you are the reason the series has gone to shit and regions
I mean, SwSh has things like evolving Galarian Farfetch'd and Yamask which if anything are equally as pants on head fucking horrible design.
Personally I think it's hilarious too that you're screaming at me for lacking critical thinking yet all your knowledge of GSC comes from online tools, online guides, and constant years of drilling Pokemon discussion into your head because you don't play any other games. It's quite frankly fucking pathetic.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:16:08 No.48100798 Report

Quoted By: >>48100868

>>48100705
>>Heh! This mon is better than [worthless shitmon] so it's good and fun to use!
>No.
It’s perfectly fine ingame, it has decent stats and even gets STAB, a luxury pre-Gen 4
>I need multiple hints for this one pokemon which evolves from the only 1st place reward in this easy minigame nooooooo
retarded
>Or the routes where there's grass nearby and they would logically look there instead?
Or you could try multiple trees for different pokemon, considering different grass on different routes give different mons already (any amount of criticial thinking or willing to explore) and there’s enough hint from a guy directly on the path in Ilex who tells you how to use Headbutt that you can’t miss

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:24:54 No.48100868 Report

Quoted By: >>48100963

>>48100798
>It’s perfectly fine ingame, it has decent stats and even gets STAB, a luxury pre-Gen 4
This is not "perfectly fine".
Why wouldn't I just use a Flying type that doesn't take literally the entire game to evolve like Pidgeot or Fearow?
>retarded
I'm curious since you didn't really respond to it, what's your stance on things like Spiritomb or Galarian Farfetch'd? You don't have to answer if you don't want, but your silence will be telling.
>Or you could try multiple trees for different pokemon, considering different grass on different routes give different mons already
But it's different trees in the same area, it completely pulls the rug out from under you and switches it up for no real reason. Are you slow?
>and there’s enough hint from a guy directly on the path in Ilex who tells you how to use Headbutt that you can’t miss
What's the hint?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:36:43 No.48100963 Report

Quoted By: >>48101084

>>48100868
>This is not "perfectly fine".
Yes it is, a lot of pokemon gen 3 or earlier have mostly shitty movesets and have to be supplemented with TMs. At least Golbat gets nice support moves, Bite, and Wing Attack.
>what's your stance on things like Spiritomb or Galarian Farfetch'd?
Completely lacking an argument so you need to deflect with whataboutism, nice. I can tell you that the conditions to get those mons are way different than “just win the Bug Catching Contest once”
>But it's different trees in the same area, it completely pulls the rug out from under you and switches it up for no real reason. Are you slow?
Even if you assumed every tree on a route has the same encounters you’d have a good chance of encountering Heracross while trying the trees on new routes since those trees are about half the total trees and you get a 30% encounter rate to work with.
>What's the hint?
He tells you to use Headbutt on trees. You should be able to figure out not every tree must have the same pokemon.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:38:28 No.48100976 Report

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>Umbreon
>good

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:41:41 No.48101007 Report

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>>48099830
>fairly obscure mechanic
Please play the game

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 21:48:28 No.48101084 Report

Quoted By: >>48101321

>>48100963
>Yes it is
Except for it's on a Pokemon with already horrible stats who won't get that fixed until pretty much the end of the game.
Don't dodge the question, why not just use literally any other Flying type?
>Completely lacking an argument so you need to deflect with whataboutism,
Nah not really, I've pretty much said everything I've wanted to say on why the method of evolving your Gloom into Bellossom is shit, and it's to where your NPC programming is just beginning to repeat itself after dodging like 90% of my points.
What's so different about getting those mons? Spiritomb literally doesn't require any skill checks and Farfetch'd has high critical hit rate on its attacks, you can just save and reload in front of a trainer with 3 Pokemon. Like....saving and reloading in front of the Bug Catching Contest no? In fact it's easier since you can do it anytime whereas the Contest is only on certain days, and instead of getting a stone and figuring out it's to evolve your Gloom the evolution just happens instantly.
>while trying the trees on new routes since those trees are about half the total trees and you get a 30% encounter rate to work with
Lmao what the fuck. Is this how Johtoschizos really see the world? The fuck does this even mean? What happened to getting Heracross in your dex to begin with?
>He tells you to use Headbutt on trees
Lol that was it? I thought there was some dialogue I forgot where he said different trees in the same area contained different Pokemon. See THAT would then maybe justify Heracross, but no he just tells you basic shit you figure out in 2 seconds anyway.
Fucking retarded.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 22:11:27 No.48101321 Report

Quoted By: >>48101716

>>48101084
>Except for it's on a Pokemon with already horrible stats who won't get that fixed until pretty much the end of the game.
Don't dodge the question, why not just use literally any other Flying type?
Golbat has nearly identical stats to Pidgeot and Fearow, has access to those stats earlier, evolves again, has a better defensive typing and a wider movepool than Flying STAB, is a Johtomon (the point of the thread) and anything works ingame regardless of whether Golbat is actually a shitmon or not. You are irredeemably retarded. Seriously, don’t bother anymore.

>What's so different about getting those mons?
Shut the fuck up you disingenuous moron. Winning a single bug catching contest isn’t comparable.

>What happened to getting Heracross in your dex to begin with?
This is the only unfair thing that could’ve used an extra hint ingame since there’s no trainer which uses it, I agree. Everything else hints at trying new trees in new routes though and it’s still perfectly viable to try random trees without prior knowledge given the high chance of encounter on routes with Heracross. You’re straying from the point of the thread in the first place which is to create a good team of Johtomons, not whether such a team was feasible on launch day 20 years ago without an extra (unnecessary) guidebook or the internet.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 22:51:11 No.48101716 Report

Quoted By: >>48102165

>>48101321
>Golbat has nearly identical stats to Pidgeot and Fearow, has access to those stats earlier, evolves again
All Crobat really gets is much higher speed. If I'm already outspeeding and oneshotting everything with Fearow and Pidgeot because as you say anything works ingame, why bother? The fact I don't muh Johtomon until the end of the game due to a garbage mechanic is just extra tedium.
>Winning a single bug catching contest isn’t comparable
Haha, I wondered when I was going to hit a brick wall with this, I didn't expect on the very second post.
>This is the only unfair thing that could’ve used an extra hint ingame
Okay. Then that doesn't preclude it from being annoying as fuck and being OP's choice for "easy to get before the 3rd badge", which is what's being contested.
>which is to create a good team of Johtomons,
Oh well in that case, Tyranitar, Ho Oh, Lugia, Raikou Suicune and Entei. That's a good team of Johtomons right?
No, the point is to make a good team of Johtomons you can reasonably, again, REASONABLY obtain, and fairly early. OP's picks are by and large dogshit.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 23:26:48 No.48102039 Report

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>>48099055
If you have HGSS you can add to that list
>Misdreaveus in the Seaside cave
>Magcargo through the Violet City egg
>Murcrow in the Pokewalker as soon as you start the game or Safari zone if you lost your pokewalker
>Tyranitar in the Safari Zone

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 23:42:34 No.48102165 Report

Quoted By: >>48102231

>>48101716
>All Crobat really gets is much higher speed. If I'm already outspeeding and oneshotting everything with Fearow and Pidgeot because as you say anything works ingame, why bother?
That’s the point of the thread, specifically showing using only johtomons is fine. You really feel the need to argue a point you don’t have lol.

>Haha, I wondered when I was going to hit a brick wall with this
It’s because I’m very obviously right. You cannot refute the point I made and have to obfuscate it.

>Then that doesn't preclude it from being annoying as fuck and being OP's choice for "easy to get before the 3rd badge", which is what's being contested.
>Oh well in that case, Tyranitar, Ho Oh, Lugia, Raikou Suicune and Entei. That's a good team of Johtomons right?
No, the point is to make a good team of Johtomons you can reasonably, again, REASONABLY obtain, and fairly early. OP's picks are by and large dogshit.
Heracross is absolutely easy to obtain with prior knowledge of the tree system, and you have a reasonable chance by trying random trees without that knowledge. You probably haven’t ______played the game______ and you’re going to ignore my good arguments and bring up more irrelevant Spiritomb situations for no reason

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 23:50:18 No.48102231 Report

Quoted By: >>48102395

>>48102165
>That’s the point of the thread, specifically showing using only johtomons is fine
Except for when said Johtomon isn't available until the end of the game and, by your own admission, might as well be just as good as alternatives I can pick up far earlier.
>You cannot refute the point I made and have to obfuscate it
>I'm right because....uh.....um......uh...b-because...because....
>SYS ERROR: SYSTEM REBOOT
>I-I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I JUST AM, OKAY??!!!??
Lol
>Heracross is absolutely easy to obtain with prior knowledge of the tree system
Woah, a Pokemon is easy to find if I know where to find it and how to find it thanks to out of game resources and constant discussions on the topic? I would have never have guessed!
>You probably haven’t ______played the game______ and you’re going to ignore my good arguments and bring up more irrelevant Spiritomb situations for no reason
I'm the one ignoring arguments? I think I've responded to everything you've said in this thread. On the other hand, you've just silently dropped points you couldn't argue further, constantly, and I've given you the benefit of the doubt.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 00:13:16 No.48102395 Report

Quoted By: >>48102477

>>48102231
>I'm the one ignoring arguments?
>>SYS ERROR: SYSTEM REBOOT
>>I-I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I JUST AM

Yes you’ve been disingenuous the entire time. Spiritomb has nothing to do with getting a Sun Stone, Golbat is equivalent in stats to other Flying types, friendship evolution is easy though lengthy, and Headbutt trees aren’t an unnavigable maze of spreadsheets and wikis. I’ve conceded on one minor point, that Heracross should’ve had its area hinted at in the pokedex to be more easily findable on a blind playthrough. But guess what? Responding to this kind of retarded bullshit doesn’t even matter to the topic at hand. In 2021, we DO have the internet and can easily find actually unfair obscure bullshit like Feebas, orders of magnitude harder to find than Heracross’ 50% chance at a 30% encounter rate. You are merely fishing for (You)s at this point. Go find something else to do if you cannot properly respond to these points any further.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 00:23:17 No.48102477 Report

Quoted By: >>48102780

>>48102395
>Golbat is equivalent in stats to other Flying types, friendship evolution is easy though lengthy
Jesus I fucked with your circuitry real bad huh?
Again, if Golbat is comparable to other Flying types why am I using it? Spearow and Pidgey evolve earlier and get better moves than trash like Leech Life.
>Spiritomb has nothing to do with getting a Sun Stone
I didn't...say it did, lol? I just asked what you thought of the method for getting Spiritomb was since you think evolving Gloom to Bellossom is such well designed gameplay.
>In 2021, we DO have the internet
And HERE is the zoomer's fallback. Sorry kiddo, adults do like to actually use their brains and have their intelligence put to test, not just Google how to get past every obstacle in 3 seconds brainlessly because work is too hard.
It's funny, isn't the cutoff for zoomers 1995? That means Johtoschizos ARE the true zoomies. They ARE the thing they hate most holy fucking KEK

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Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 01:07:25 No.48102780 Report

Quoted By: >>48103104

>>48102477
>Again, if Golbat is comparable to other Flying types why am I using it?
So you can use a Johtomon as per the topic of the thread. Thanks for the concession.

>I didn't...say it did, lol? I just asked what you thought of the method for getting Spiritomb
Cool, no argument, thanks for the concession

>Google how to get past every obstacle on 3 seconds
>no U are the zoomer
Don’t care, you can currently get a Heracross easily as per the topic of the thread, didn’t say anything about zoomers, thanks for the concession.

Are all genwar fags this retarded? (Yes)

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Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 01:55:42 No.48103104 Report

Quoted By: >>48103195

>>48102780
>So you can use a Johtomon as per the topic of the thread
Sure, yeah. I mean, you can also use Furret and Jumpluff and whatever trash too, doesn't mean they'll be fun or good to use, but hey like you said you can beat the game with anything right?
>Cool, no argument, thanks for the concession
I'm just asking what you think. Why are zoomers so aggressive and apelike?
>you can currently get a Heracross easily as per the topic of the thread
If you're a zoomer who literally has Gamefaqs pulled right up next to his emulator and also makes sure to have the site where he finds the trees Heracross is in on the other side, sure.
Yeah bro you've won. You also revealed you're a brainless zoomie who mashes A to get through his le heckin epic region. So who really wins in the end?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 02:07:56 No.48103195 Report

Quoted By: >>48104879

>>48103104
>Yeah bro you've won

Thanks. You had no arguments so I figured you’d give up eventually. I’m not even your zoomie zoom boogeyman you outlined. Rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 02:08:53 No.48103202 Report

Quoted By: >>48105308

>open thread
>immediate autism
should've known

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 07:10:32 No.48104879 Report

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>>48103195
lol kill yourself seething leftist

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Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 08:30:12 No.48105222 Report

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>>48095406
Yep, Game Freak made everything an RNG grind, including winning the bug catching contest.
>>48095698
>Step 2: Go to the spot circled in Red. If you see Cooltrainer Nick (blue hair), restart. Cooltrainer Nick almost always wins
Either play the game or don't open your moth about shit you don't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Sep 2021 08:46:10 No.48105308 Report

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>>48103202
The very basis of this thread was autism, you knew exactly what you were about to see when you clicked on it, don't lie

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