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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:28:17 No.48288788 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48288866 >>48288871 >>48288897 >>48289066 >>48290196

Why does GF not want special Rock attackers to exist, bros?
>only 3 special Rock attacks ever made across 8 gens
>one is a weak move made mostly for gambling to get omniboosted stats
>Power Gem has such poor distribution that out of the 21 mons that learn it only 5 are actually Rock types
>Meteor Beam is a 2 turn charging move that can fucking miss

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:38:06 No.48288851 Report

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:40:33 No.48288866 Report

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>>48288788
Rocks are usually hard solid (physical) things, hence why the rock special moves are energy beams only tenuously related to rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:40:54 No.48288871 Report

Quoted By: >>48288876 >>48292540

>>48288788
>Coalossal
>Corsola
>Nihilego
>Lunatone
>Probopass
>Aurorus
>Cradily
>Omastar
>Carracosta
>Archeops
>Minior
>Magcargo
>Carbink
>Diancie
>Mega Diancie
>"Wtf why do no rock special attackers exist bros?"
Play the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:42:24 No.48288876 Report

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>>48288871
Fuck yeah, Ancient Power!!! 60 BP 4ever!

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:43:44 No.48288883 Report

Quoted By: >>48288913

>>48288876
Whether or not rock special moves are good or not, or even if rock special attackers are good or not, is completely irrelevant to what you said.
Play. The. Games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:45:42 No.48288897 Report

Quoted By: >>48290184 >>48290736 >>48292523

>>48288788
Meteor beam's really not that bad, run that shit with power herb and it can be downright amazing (If it doesn't miss lol), but I admit there aren't enough so let's make some ITT
>Crystal blast
A blast of light shoots out of the pokemon, probably from some sort of crystal on their body
120 BP, 85% accuracy. It's essentially a fireblast clone, except I left it at 120 BP cause no secondary effect.
>Statue surprise
The pokemon stays still, if the opposing "Falls for the act" (This happens if they're under the confused status) then the power is doubled
50 BP, 100% accuracy, 30% flinch chance
>Moon dust dance
The pokemon does a dance, raising up magical dust all around it, before hurling it all at the opponent
65 BP, 100% accuracy, 30% chance to raise special attack AND special defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:47:51 No.48288913 Report

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>>48288883
>aurorus having one of the worst typings, with six weaknesses and two being double-weaknesses is a good thing
I would have expected nothing else from a /vp/ detractor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:55:52 No.48288975 Report

Quoted By: >>48289022

>>48288913
Stop changing the subject, dexcommie. Aurorus being good does not matter to the point that it is a special attacker, one of 15 Rock-type special attackers. That's what your thread is about.
GF will never cater to you, continue crying.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 00:58:12 No.48288990 Report

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>48288975
>dexcommie
I never even mentioned dexit at all you shithead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:02:57 No.48289022 Report

Quoted By: >>48289141

>>48288975
>He falls back on the "B-but your complaints don't matter because uuuuuh, gamefreak doesn't care about you! Haha yea, gottem"
Dude, neck yourself rn. Whether gamefreak cares is irrelevant, they clearly don't, that's not what the thread is about. It's simply about the fact that not enough special rock type moves exist. Like seriously I never got how so many people treat that as a real arguing point, as if every discussion on a videogame hinges on the developers caring about that one topic.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:08:38 No.48289057 Report

Quoted By: >>48289065 >>48289078

>48288975
>Aurorus being good
Did Arctozolt having a niche in OU really mindfuck /vp/ this hard? Mindfucked this board so hard that Slush Rush because the Best Ability Ever™ and that Ice is suddenly a good typing for defensive Pokémon to have because of Galarian Darmanitan having Gorilla Tactics or Eiscue having a gimmick ability that is bypassed with special moves?

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:10:05 No.48289065 Report

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>>48289057
reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:10:05 No.48289066 Report

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>>48288788
why have physical and special stats at all if you just want everything to be the same? the point of the rock is that it's a high risk/high reward physically focused type.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:11:48 No.48289078 Report

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>>48289057
>>Aurorus being good
Yes, Aurorus is good, if you use it correctly. Have you tried playing the game instead of endlessly bitching on /vp/?

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:14:56 No.48289091 Report

Quoted By: >>48289099

>>48289066
Ah yes, the high risk/high reward type where Stone Edge misses and the Focus Blast being used by a Charizard doesn't miss and results in a OHKO because every Rock-type Pokémon has to have a low Special Defense for no reason at all.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:15:43 No.48289099 Report

Quoted By: >>48289126

>>48289091
man....if only there were a consistent way to boost rock type's special defense.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:18:49 No.48289113 Report

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>>48289078
Dude it's easy as fuck to rank up in fucking in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:18:55 No.48289114 Report

Quoted By: >>48289208

>>48289078
Ah yes, the classic "defensively-oriented Pokémon needing a Focus Sash because Morimoto is a dumbfuck".

Many such cases.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:20:26 No.48289126 Report

Quoted By: >>48289217

>>48289099
that requires stacking double rock (t-Tar) or stacking another water+grass weakness (Hippo). On top of that there's so much more mons that do better on a fucking sand team regardless if they abuse the weather or not

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:23:46 No.48289141 Report

Quoted By: >>48289156 >>48289201

>>48289022
>It's simply about the fact that not enough special rock type moves exist.
but we don’t really need anymore special rock type moves though?

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:26:10 No.48289156 Report

Quoted By: >>48289242

>>48289141
Ah yes, because having a special attacking Rock-type Pokémon being limited to only three moves (more realistically, two) is a good thing because Tyranitar despite being a Rock-type Pokémon was in OU for 20 years.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:33:06 No.48289201 Report

Quoted By: >>48289242

>>48289141
>We don't because... we just don't ok??

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:34:17 No.48289208 Report

Quoted By: >>48289237 >>48289295

>>48289114
Ah yes, the classic "retard doesn't play the game and bitches about having to use tools in the game".

Many such cases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:35:19 No.48289217 Report

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>>48289126
>that requires stacking double rock (t-Tar) or stacking another water+grass weakness (Hippo).
man....if only there were a move that passively creates sandstorm that pretty much every rock type has access to....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:37:42 No.48289237 Report

Quoted By: >>48289246 >>48289283

>>48289208
Not that anon but
>Doesn't see problem with defensive pokemon needing to use a consumable item to prevent itself from being 1 shot
Dude. Reconsider your whole fucking outlook on life immediately

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:38:49 No.48289242 Report

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>>48289156
I still don’t see how this is a bad thing though?

>>48289201
this but unironically

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:39:25 No.48289246 Report

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>>48289237
>>Doesn't see problem with defensive pokemon
Why are you assuming it's a defensive Pokemon?

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:43:56 No.48289283 Report

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>>48289237
>defensive Pokémon
>using focus sash

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:45:59 No.48289295 Report

Quoted By: >>48289310

>>48289208
Aurorus being a defensive Pokémon (don't give me any of your "red pills" on how it's ACKSHUALLY an offensive Pokémon) having two double-weaknesses isn't a good thing at all, detractor.

>inb4 ferrothorn
>inb4 tyranitar
>inb4 kommo-o
>inb4 dragonite with multiscale
>inb4 my mom's fenghuang (ho-oh)
>inb4 garchomp with a defensive build
>inb4 "bUt aURorUS Has hiGh Hp"
>inb4 "AUrORus DOESn'T nEed A BUff BecaUSE iCe RIDeR CaLyReX iS A DefEnSiVe POKémON ToO"

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:47:51 No.48289310 Report

Quoted By: >>48289333 >>48289349

>>48289295
>don't give me any of your "red pills" on how it's ACKSHUALLY an offensive Pokémon
But it is an offensive Pokemon.

>having two double-weaknesses isn't a good thing
Having weaknesses period isn't a good thing. Doesn't stop it from being useful, dumbass.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:50:49 No.48289333 Report

Quoted By: >>48289356

>>48289310
>Having weaknesses period isn't a good thing. Doesn't stop it from being useful, dumbass.
Ah yes, the weakness strawman trying to paint having two double-weaknesses as a good thing.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:53:08 No.48289349 Report

Quoted By: >>48289356

>>48289310
>But it is an offensive Pokemon.
Seems pretty defensive to me.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:54:11 No.48289356 Report

Quoted By: >>48289369

>>48289349
Try checking what it's actually used for instead of staring at its stats, dumbass.

Man, do you people ever consider playing the game or do you just stare at websites all day long?

>>48289333
It's not a strawman. Weaknesses in general aren't good so your point doesn't mean anything.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 01:56:40 No.48289369 Report

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>>48289356
Of course weaknesses are never good but having two double-weaknesses is absolutely HORSE SHIT ESPECIALLY ON A DEFENSIVE POKÉMON LIKE AGGRON (in which is ACKSHUALLY an offensive Pokémon).

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 04:11:26 No.48290184 Report

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>>48288897
Could only think of two good ones off the top my head, and they'd both be unique (but imo awesome) moves. All the other ideas coming to me made more sense as physical:

> Crystal Flare
> Rock Type; Special
> 0BP/40BP; 10pp
- The Pokemon briefly harnesses light energy in a prism before releasing it in a brilliant flash. Lowers accuracy by one stage and has a 35% chance to deal damage. While Sunny Day is active, has an 85% chance to deal damage. Burns damaged target.
- Sample Pokemon to learn: Persian, Golduck, Staryu/Starmie, Espeon, Slowking, Sableye, Spoink/Grumpig, Regice, Deoxys, Misdreavus/Mismagius, Aurorus, Carbink, Diancie

> Fragmention Barrier
> Rock Type; Special
> 0BP/100BP; 5pp
- The Pokemon raises a wall of energy embedded with minerals to negate attacks the turn used. If the Pokemon is targeted by a contact move, the barrier explodes towards the impact direction dealing special damage. Fails if used in succession.
- Sample Pokemon to learn: Solrock, Regirock, Probopass, Minior, Flygon, Claydol, Groudon, Torterra, Golurk, Zygrade, Runerigus, Duraludon, Metagross, Gallade, Lucario, Entei, Victini

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 04:12:34 No.48290196 Report

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>>48288788
Why doesn't Game Freak just remove physical and special stats so everything can be good at everything?

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 06:14:04 No.48290736 Report

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>>48288897
>Desert's Mark
>Shoots a blast of magic at the foe, locking them in battle. During sandstorm, increases the damage of sand by 1/6th per turn.
>60 BP, 100% accuracy.

>Gemstone Laser
>User reflects a ray of harsh light that pings off the opponent repeatedly, starting at 10 BP and doubling to a max power of 80 BP. The user can continue attacking during this time and the damage will continue even if the target switches out. Using Rock Polish right beforehand doubles this power. This attack fails in harsh sunlight.
>10-160 BP, 85% accuracy

>Basalt Blaze
>Deals dual Fire/Rock damage. Power is tripled if Grassy Terrain is on the field and removes said Terrain. Power is increased by 1.5x in the presence of powder attacks, Leech Seed, Sticky Web and removes said effects.
>85 BP, 95% accuracy

>Geokinesis
>Uses any active Stealth Rocks to destroy all hazards on the field and launches them at the opponent, at the cost of destroying said rocks.
>50 BP, 100% accuracy

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:35:13 No.48292523 Report

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>>48288897
>>Crystal blast
>A blast of light shoots out of the pokemon, probably from some sort of crystal on their body
Oh, you know that Aurorus would never be able to learn this despite having crystals on its body because of VGC balancing. Klinkklang will be able to learn it instead.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:38:35 No.48292540 Report

Quoted By: >>48292556

>>48288871
Archeops, Carracosta and Minior run physical sets

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:43:25 No.48292556 Report

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>>48292540
Don't respond to shitposts.

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