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And if you zoomies though growlithe was worth a fuck, they wouldn't have to regionalise it. But the fact is, Regionals are used for unpopular shitmons (almost all the Gen I Fire types, the mascot's evolution, shitmon badger from Hoenn), which proves they want to keep the older shit selling like the newer and more popular shit.
Sorry you're too retarded to miss that, but I thought it was obvious to everybody when A-Raichu was produced, but not A-Pikachu.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:29:37 No.48291274 Report

Quoted By: >>48291304

>>48291260
Arcanine's playstyle was becoming stale, giving a new niche or some sort of new tech would be refreshing to the game down the road when it's allowed in competitive as they're getting more interesting over time.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:30:06 No.48291275 Report

Quoted By: >>48291281 >>48295349

>>48291260
Agreed. Regional variants are a fucking disgrace. They're a disservice to the original design and are always inferior to getting a wholly new Pokemon. This series lacks enough originality as it is on top of the constant rehashing and regurgitating of old elements.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:32:31 No.48291281 Report

Quoted By: >>48291308

>>48291270
>>48291275
((( why so negative
i thought it was a cool mon looking even cooler desu
although not wrong for zigzagoon at least.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:34:19 No.48291287 Report

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>>48291260
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:36:47 No.48291299 Report

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>>48291270
What's your point? Do you say it's bad that we don't appreciate Growlithe so they made regional variant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:37:22 No.48291304 Report

Quoted By: >>48291344

>>48291274
Arcanine should gain Dragon Dance and Tailwind

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:37:28 No.48291305 Report

Quoted By: >>48291330

>>48291270
Unpopular Pokemon like Meowth and Vulpix, got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:38:58 No.48291308 Report

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>>48291281
I'm not being negative, I've loved pretty much all the regionals so far (while the base forms have been hit-or-miss with me and usually misses), I'm just explaining why they're regionalising shit - they want to make it sell again, like it did before the zoomies came into the franchise. If that means changing it so the zoomies pick up on it again, so be it.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:39:57 No.48291313 Report

Quoted By: >>48291352 >>48292581

>>48291270
Pikachu would never get a regional anyway, it's the mascot of the franchise.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:42:59 No.48291330 Report

Quoted By: >>48291829

>>48291305
>"b-but I liek th-them"
And yet they proved their intent, when they gave the mascot's evo a Regional form, but not it, understand?
Pikachu is popular, Raichu not so much, even it does have some fans. But those fans obviously weren't growing much bigger up to VII, else they wouldn't have bothered to Regionalise it, re-tool it for the zoomie generation.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:45:28 No.48291344 Report

Quoted By: >>48291350 >>48291375

>>48291304
>Tailwind
why

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:45:39 No.48291345 Report

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>>48291260
New regional formes are great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:46:41 No.48291350 Report

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>>48291344
Fats as wind

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:47:01 No.48291352 Report

Quoted By: >>48293281 >>48293412

>>48291313
You're all ignoring my point, it's popular (it became the mascot DUE to its fucking popularity, they slated Clefairy for the face of the thing pre-launch). Even if it wasn't going to get one, due to being mascot, it still proved they only went after unpopular shitmons. same reason we haven't seen a Regional starter yet (and Legends set aren't likely to get ones, due to being fresh off the boat with no time to adapt to Hisui), as the face of any particular Gen, they're immediately more popular than the shit that's been regionalised so far, making their chances at regionalisation shrink dramatically.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:53:00 No.48291373 Report

Quoted By: >>48291836

>>48291260
Regional forms are nothing but dogshit,
At least pokemon altered‘s fakemon are better then them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:53:33 No.48291375 Report

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>>48291344
Because she's Windy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:53:40 No.48291376 Report

Quoted By: >>48291388 >>48291405

>>48291260
Would be cool if it got Rock Head, but knowing Gamefreak, one of two things will happen:
>Legends won't have abilities
>It'll be slower because lol rock type

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:58:59 No.48291388 Report

Quoted By: >>48291390

>>48291376
I just hope they don't make Hisuian Arcanine a straight-upgrade from base-Arcanine

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 08:59:50 No.48291390 Report

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>>48291388
I hope they do, because then it would continue to just be a worse Incineroar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 09:03:05 No.48291405 Report

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>>48291376
>>It'll be slower because lol rock type
onix enters the chat

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 09:04:55 No.48291412 Report

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>>48291405
An exception to the rule.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 09:35:56 No.48291470 Report

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>>48291260
It's a Komainu though! It's fucking adorable. They're Japanese lion dog statues that are meant as guardians of sacred areas. They're common in the north and are almost always sold in sets of two, because you're supposed to put one on either side of what they're protecting (a gate, a door, another statue, a person, etc). In the 1950s or so they started mass producing them and removed the horn because they used to break off constantly. And all of that shit is referenced in the pokedex entry for Hisuian Growlithe. Also, it looks awesome and you're an autistic faggot for not liking regional forms.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 09:44:19 No.48291488 Report

Quoted By: >>48291489

>>48291260
Honestly, nothing about his design says “rock”. I would have an easier tine believing he is a ground, normal, psychic r ice type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 09:44:59 No.48291489 Report

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>>48291488
The gray fur is made of rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:31:00 No.48291779 Report

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>>48291260
Same type as Magcargo. Can't wait to use it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:33:27 No.48291800 Report

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>>48291260
Fuck off, I would rather get new forms than awful unoriginal mons like Eldegoss.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:35:13 No.48291809 Report

Quoted By: >>48295327

>>48291260
Why? Regional variants are a great idea. Easily the best thing to come out of SuMo (even if Game Freak just cribbed it from Insurgence).

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:38:26 No.48291829 Report

Quoted By: >>48296031

>>48291330
>>48291270
and this is bad because?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:39:58 No.48291836 Report

Quoted By: >>48291993

>>48291373
That is not better than any regional form weve gotten, its a boring lazy reskin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:40:41 No.48291840 Report

Quoted By: >>48291866 >>48291870

>>48291260
Are there any chances for the hisui form to get in the remakes or nah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:48:18 No.48291866 Report

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>>48291840
Seeing as how they're extinct in the modern timeline, probably not. But maybe we'll get a fossil like mechanic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 11:49:30 No.48291870 Report

Quoted By: >>48292341

>>48291840
In BDSP? No. The new forms/pokemon are always a key selling point for a new game, so putting them in the game before would be pointless.

What's likely to happen is that swsh gets updated when Home does next year, allowing all the gen 4 mons and the mew Hisuian mons/forms to be used in VGC 2022 (and 2023 if Gen 9 doesn't come out late 2022).

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:22:21 No.48291985 Report

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>>48291260
Shut the fug up
It’s cute

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:25:28 No.48291993 Report

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>>48291836
Honesty, this “regional variants” should just be forms that a pokemon can take if you do something specifically(example the shaymin sky form). They waste their time doing this stupid regional variants even for NFE mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 13:04:41 No.48292103 Report

Quoted By: >>48295343

>>48291260
>le funny pokemon with human hair and beard meme since Gen7
NuJapan culture is fucking cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 13:09:13 No.48292127 Report

Quoted By: >>48293347

>>48291270
Shut up autist

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 13:14:31 No.48292141 Report

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People actually prefer regional forms over original like 90% of time.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 13:34:38 No.48292219 Report

Quoted By: >>48292914 >>48293454

Regional forms have their nostalgic charm but are overall a really lazy addition to the series.
Back in ye olde times, Pokemon based on similar species were given distinct designs to avoid confusion, and this resulted in properly realized and fleshed out designs. Regional forms on the other hand just take an already finalized design and tinker with them in unorthodox ways, which results in thematic clash and occasionally the same "just add spikes" problem that the worse Megas have.
And let's not forget the problem with some of the names. "Sandslash" isn't exactly appropriate for an ice monster.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 13:36:33 No.48292226 Report

Quoted By: >>48292350 >>48292489

>>48291270
>Pokémon are unpopular so they have to make them even worse

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:01:17 No.48292341 Report

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>>48291870
They're replacing SS, except for the VGC anon. They won't get any further updates, when they'll be shilling the fuck out of BDSP and Legends instead. Gen IX WILL be 2022.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:02:52 No.48292349 Report

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>>48291260
It’s actually one of the better decisions they’ve made as of late. Most monster hunting/collecting games have different forms of the same monsters, so it makes sense Pokemon would do it too — and honestly, with type being a major player in Pokemon, the series does it pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:03:08 No.48292350 Report

Quoted By: >>48292390

>>48292226
That why you're pissy they fixed a shitmon doggo then?
Congratulations on being the minority - maybe should have consooomed harder then they may have thought it didn't need the popularity boost.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:10:26 No.48292390 Report

Quoted By: >>48295351

>>48292350
I haven't "consoomed" a pokémon game since Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:26:13 No.48292473 Report

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>>48291263
I sort of agree, although I prefer it when the regional forms don’t have exclusive evolutions, and when the reason for their divergent existence makes sense in-universe(like the Meowths).

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:28:00 No.48292489 Report

Quoted By: >>48292511

>>48292226
>make them worse
It's its own design. You just want clearer demarcations between gens so you can gatekeep; it's the faggiest shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:32:05 No.48292511 Report

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>>48292489
Houndour has it's own design from the Gen 1 fire dog, Growlithe forma de gen 12 doesn't. It's Growlithe but worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:42:30 No.48292550 Report

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>>48291260
OLD GOOD NEW BAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 14:48:28 No.48292581 Report

Quoted By: >>48293281

>>48291313
>Pikachu would never get a regional anyway, it's the mascot of the franchise.
Yeah sure, let's ignore than they are doing the regional pikachu since gen II with all the pikachu clones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 15:46:28 No.48292903 Report

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>>48291260
nah you need to stop existing

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 15:48:01 No.48292914 Report

Quoted By: >>48293198

>>48292219
>And let's not forget the problem with some of the names. "Sandslash" isn't exactly appropriate for an ice monster.
Why would the name change, if it's just the same Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:26:16 No.48293198 Report

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>>48292914
It's another example of thematic clash. Sandslash is at its core a sand dwelling monster, and trying to change that while keeping it as the same species results in many things (such as its name) not making sense.
For example, let's say a sea cucumber evolved far enough to live on land. At that point, it would have to be different enough to be an entirely different species, a "land cucumber" rather than a "land sea cucumber".

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:37:12 No.48293281 Report

Quoted By: >>48293331

>>48291352
>it became the mascot DUE to its fucking popularity
doesn't matter if he only became the mascot, it's the mascot, it's still *the* pokemon that definitely won't be touched
>>48292581
Not pikachus regional variants, cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:38:42 No.48293292 Report

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>>48291260
Why? Regional forms makes sense so I'm glad they're in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:43:44 No.48293331 Report

Quoted By: >>48293349

>>48293281
alola form still counts, arrest.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:43:54 No.48293334 Report

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Regional forms are one of the few good things in nu-Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:45:41 No.48293347 Report

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>>48292127
Never you racist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:45:46 No.48293349 Report

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>>48293331
not a pikachu, cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:50:44 No.48293391 Report

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>>48291260
I love regionals so much, they breathe new life into old favourites

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:53:36 No.48293412 Report

Quoted By: >>48293419 >>48293474

>>48291352
uhh no it's popular because it's the mascot, it's mascot was decided well in advance of the games releasing

besides the reason they didn't give pikachu a regional was not because of it's popularity but because its the mascot and having a regional would've "tarnished the purity" of it

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:54:43 No.48293419 Report

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>>48293412
Pikachu was never the first pick for a series mascot.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 16:58:05 No.48293454 Report

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>>48292219
>lazy addition
Almost every monster series does this, and usually it’s done even lazier. Gamefreak does plenty of things half-assed, but most regional forms are pretty good. The name thing doesn’t bother me that much, although it does lead to them having to shoehorn in some explanations (like the bird trio). I like what they did with Vulpix, mentioning that in Alola, it used to be known as Keokeo — more of that kind of thing would be nice.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 17:00:43 No.48293474 Report

Quoted By: >>48293520

>>48293412
>it's mascot was decided well in advance of the games releasing
Untrue. It became the mascot because it was an interesting pick for Ash to get in the anime. They didn’t want to give him a specific starter and alienate the kids who didn’t pick that one.
Clefairy was originally planned to be the mascot, but was deemed “too girly” or something.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 17:07:07 No.48293520 Report

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>>48293474
nah that's not the story
what happened was that Nishino adored Pikachu so much, he decided to make it a rare encounter to prevent other people from finding it and making it his own personal thing
what instead happened was its rarity made it common playground talk for Japanese schoolchildren trying to find the rare and cool Electric type and thus Pikachu became such a hit breakout with kids that they were eventually convinced to give it the starring role in the anime
if it wasn't for Nishino's greed backfiring then the series could have been totally different

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 20:54:32 No.48295151 Report

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>>48291260
No

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:14:16 No.48295291 Report

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:20:12 No.48295327 Report

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>>48291809
The card games had deltas prior, and Orange islands showcased the potential for regional variants which insurgence just combined for its logical step forward

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:22:59 No.48295343 Report

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>>48292103
>beard
I’d also point out that the ‘hair’ is a mane that is present in its inspiration and the base form but clearly your eyes are non functional and for decorative purposes only

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:23:35 No.48295349 Report

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>>48291260
>>48291275
This is an abomination.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:24:23 No.48295351 Report

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>>48292390
And you’re still here over a decade on. Sad.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 21:28:44 No.48295378 Report

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Anonymous Sun 26 Sep 2021 23:03:42 No.48296031 Report

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>>48291829
Go fuck yourself zoomie fuck, i hope you jump off a 50 meter builing head fucking first into the concrete

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