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The fairy type ruined many good pokemon

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 07:28:48 No.48375170 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48375195 >>48375287 >>48376560 >>48379804 >>48380308

Clefable togekiss and gardevoir used to only take neutral damage from poison and steel to now being weak to them
whimsicott is now 4x times to poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 07:38:17 No.48375195 Report

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>>48375170
I wound never post this if they never give the fairy type to any previous pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 07:39:06 No.48375199 Report

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TH-THEY'RE WEAK TO THE LEAST COMMON OFFENSIVE TYPE IN THE GAME? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 07:47:40 No.48375217 Report

Quoted By: >>48375271

Who knew that Grass is a shitty typing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 07:56:37 No.48375241 Report

Quoted By: >>48380298

yeah clefable only went from a middling RU pokemon to a top tier OU pokemon, what a terrible nerf!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:08:02 No.48375271 Report

Quoted By: >>48375278 >>48375279

>>48375217
people who don’t play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:13:35 No.48375278 Report

Quoted By: >>48375288 >>48375293 >>48375438

>>48375271
Grass is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon, yet there are defensive Pokémon with that typing.
Rock is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon, yet there are defensive Pokémon with that typing.
Ice is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon, yet there are defensive Pokémon with that typing.

Game Freak doesn't understand this and creating a defensive Pokémon with any of these typings ends in failure every single time. Is it really that subversively edgy for me to say that Meganium should have a better movepool or that Aurorus should have less weaknesses? If so, #EdgeLordPride

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:13:59 No.48375279 Report

Quoted By: >>48375289 >>48375293 >>48375319 >>48376794 >>48377064 >>48378946

>>48375271
I played the game and can confirm that grass is shit for a regular playthough.
Ever wonder why it's so well known that Chikorita, Treeko, Torterra, Serperior, Chespin, Decidueye, and Rillaboom are the objective weakest starter picks in their respective games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:18:14 No.48375287 Report

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>>48375170
Posion was only super effective on Grass and nothing else for way too fucking long, it deserved that buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:18:36 No.48375288 Report

Quoted By: >>48375302 >>48379877

>>48375278
>Grass is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon
grass has always had relevant defensive mons in OU.
celebi, shaymin, ferrothorn, tangrowth, amoonguss, mega venusaur, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:18:55 No.48375289 Report

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>>48375279
Trying to reason with a denialist ends in failure and doubles as a waste of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:20:21 No.48375293 Report

Quoted By: >>48379877

>>48375278
>Grass is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon
Ferrothorn being able to resist the water, not be weak to ground, being able to use Leech Seed, and being immune to Spore is bad for it? Since when?

>>48375279
In game playthroughs are trivial and don’t matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:25:04 No.48375302 Report

Quoted By: >>48375308 >>48377022 >>48379855

>>48375288
>I'm just going to list some Pokémon that saw competitive usage so this means that Meganium doesn't need a buff

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:29:25 No.48375308 Report

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>>48375302

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Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 08:34:01 No.48375319 Report

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>>48375279
I notice you omitted Venusaur as it obliterates your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 09:46:35 No.48375438 Report

Quoted By: >>48375582

>>48375278
>Rock is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon, yet there are defensive Pokémon with that typing.
>Ice is not a good typing for defensive Pokémon, yet there are defensive Pokémon with that typing.
Examples:Absolutely none.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 10:57:20 No.48375582 Report

Quoted By: >>48376586 >>48376590

>>48375438
Examples:

>onix (favors defense)
>golem (favors defense, defense is second highest with )
>lapras (favors HP with speed being its lowest stat)
>walrein (favors HP with speed being its lowest stat)
>tyranitar (favors attack, defense is second highest with speed being its lowest stat)
>rhyperior (favors attack, defense is second highest with speed being its lowest stat)
>gigalith (favors attack, defense is second highest with speed being its lowest stat)
>tyrantrum (favors attack, defense is second highest with speed being its 3rd-to-lowest stat with the lowest being special defense)
>aurorus (favors HP with speed being its lowest stat)
>avalugg (favors defense with speed being its lowest stat)
>midnight form lycanroc (favors attack, speed is second highest with special attack being its lowest stat | only listed because of the "+10 to HP, defense, and special defense / -30 speed" bullshit)
>coalossal (favors defense, HP is second highest with speed being its lowest stat)
>stonjourner (favors defense, attack is second highest stat with speed being its 3rd(?)-to-lowest stat with the lowest being both special defense and special attack)
>glastrier (favors attack, defense is second highest with speed being its lowest stat)
>ice rider calyrex (same as glastrier)

Just a sample list of Rock and Ice-type Pokemon that favor bulk (sometimes being one-sided especially in Stonjourner's case) over Speed (outside of Attack or Special Attack). Judging by how the stats are handled for each and every one I listed...

Examples: Absolutely yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 15:47:27 No.48376560 Report

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>>48375170
There is no reason for this type to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 15:52:55 No.48376586 Report

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>>48375582
Glastrier is an exception because it's so fucking bulky it can take a Close Combat from many mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 15:53:25 No.48376590 Report

Quoted By: >>48376614 >>48380126

>>48375582
>Most of those of those are absolute shit tier unless they have a ridiculously good ability or are legendaries
You are just proving the other poster right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 15:57:00 No.48376614 Report

Quoted By: >>48376675

>>48376590
Most of every type is absolute shit tier. Wanna start arguing that Fairy is a bad type because Granbull, Wigglytuff, Dedenne, etc. exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 16:08:15 No.48376675 Report

Quoted By: >>48377094

>>48376614
>Most of every type is absolute shit tier
... And some types have a lot more pokemon that are good than other types. There are more good Fairy and Dragon types than there are good Bug or Normal types. How are you too dumb understand that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 16:30:45 No.48376794 Report

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>>48375279
>rillaboom
>weakest
>when inceleon exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 16:33:33 No.48376809 Report

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OH NO I HAD TO TRADE A POISON WEAKNESS FOR DRAGON IMMUNITY AND FIGHTING, BUG, AND DARK RESISTANCE, ALL VERY IMPORTANT TYPES TO RESIST!

Fuck off, even steel weakness isn't that big of a deal now that scizor is fading to obscurity more and more. Those fairies didn't handle steel that well anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 17:24:20 No.48377022 Report

Quoted By: >>48380950

>>48375302
Meganium would be shit with literally any type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 17:35:08 No.48377064 Report

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>>48375279
Sceptile can literally carry the whole game using leaf blade

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 17:43:27 No.48377094 Report

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>>48376675
>there are more good pokemon of this type that's more commonly used for legendaries and pseudos than this type that has zero legendaries!

wow, amazing observation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 23:38:59 No.48378946 Report

Quoted By: >>48378953

>>48375279
In Treecko's case it's moreso because of how RSE is balanced than Grass in and of itself. There's Water everywhere but Swampert only has one weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Oct 2021 23:39:59 No.48378953 Report

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>>48378946
Got distracted before finishing; Swampert only has one weakness and it's almost NOWHERE to be seen in RSE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 02:12:12 No.48379804 Report

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>>48375170
They weren't surviving most steel attacks anyway but you're right in that it made them worse against poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 02:20:45 No.48379855 Report

Quoted By: >>48380071

>>48375302
Meganium has no moves, no stats, and an ability so bad that Overgrowth is better. It could be shadow type and it'd still be unusable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 02:23:08 No.48379877 Report

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>>48375288
>>48375293
>X Pokémon is in OU so X doesn't need a buff
Shove nails up your nose you predictable fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 02:53:03 No.48380071 Report

Quoted By: >>48380599

>>48379855
Then it should... you know, need a major buff. But Rillaboom is in OU so that means Meganium shouldn't need a buff according to some people on here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:02:22 No.48380126 Report

Quoted By: >>48380281

>>48376590
>Aurorus doesn't need a buff because Tyranitar is good, because.... BECAUSE IT DOESN'T OKAY???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:35:25 No.48380281 Report

Quoted By: >>48380290 >>48380326

>>48380126
>steel needs a buff because klinklang is bad, because... BECAUSE IT JUST DOES, OKAY???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:37:45 No.48380290 Report

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>>48380281
What a epic strawman. Just one problem though, you forgot your frog. Found one for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:39:59 No.48380298 Report

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>>48375241
It's a joke/bait, he listed some of the strongest Fairies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:43:13 No.48380308 Report

Quoted By: >>48380607

>>48375170
I think one of the more odd facets about fairy is the random addition of resistance to fighting. When is the last time fighting moves were ever relevant to OU? They should give Fighting a break sometime

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 03:48:42 No.48380326 Report

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>>48380281
The absolute state of /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 04:55:44 No.48380599 Report

Quoted By: >>48380635

>>48380071
meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 04:56:47 No.48380607 Report

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>>48380308
you’re trying too hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 05:07:28 No.48380635 Report

Quoted By: >>48380666

>>48380599
>someone says that a Pokémon desperately needs a major buff
>this means they have schizophrenia
Why is /vp/ like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 05:18:54 No.48380666 Report

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>>48380635
meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 06:45:42 No.48380950 Report

Quoted By: >>48381186

>>48377022
Meganium would be good with steel or fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 08:42:42 No.48381186 Report

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>>48380950
And an actual movepool. But let's not pretend that Game Freak doesn't play favorites and treat certain Pokémon as 2nd-class (or lower), because they do.

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