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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 12:26:52 No.48381744 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48381747 >>48383662 >>48383742 >>48383850

Meganium doesn't need a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 12:27:39 No.48381747 Report

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>>48381744
Why nobody used it then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 12:28:31 No.48381749 Report

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Frogposters gonna frogpost.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 18:54:43 No.48383662 Report

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>>48381744
it needs fucking leech seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:00:05 No.48383696 Report

Quoted By: >>48383726 >>48383737 >>48383837

>Infernape BST 534
>Empoleon BST 530
>Torterra BST 525
Uhh actually upon further investigation this is consistent with Johto and Kanto too, maybe more. Why the hell are fire types the strongest and grass the weakest for starters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:02:57 No.48383726 Report

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>>48383696
Shell Smash Torterra/Chesnaught when

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:04:11 No.48383737 Report

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>>48383696
Because grass is canonically a weak typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:04:35 No.48383742 Report

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>>48381744
She needs a butt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:15:12 No.48383837 Report

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>>48383696
More than half of the starters have exactly 530 BST.
Starters by BST (not including Megas)
535 - Swampert
534 - Charizard, Typhlosion, Infernape, Delphox
530 - Blastoise, Feraligatr, Sceptile, Blaziken, Empoleon, Chesnaught, Greninja, Decidueye, Incineroar, Primarina, Rilaboom, Cinderace, Inteleon
528 - Serperior, Emboar, Samurott
525 - Venusaur, Meganium, Torterra

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:17:06 No.48383844 Report

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>>48383837
So many grass types below the average. Such bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:18:39 No.48383850 Report

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>>48381744
It does need to be buffed. There is no reason to ever use it over venusaur or ferrothorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:38:36 No.48383956 Report

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>>48383850
All the Gen 2 starters need a stat, ability and movepool reworking, but Meganium is pretty much desperate for one. Give Meganium better defensive stats and take some away from Atk and Speed, give it Flower Veil, Recover, Strength Sap, Calm Mind, Helping Hand, Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Knock Off, Pollen Puff, Earth Power and Weather Ball. Boom, now it can pair up with Rillaboom and Tapu Bulu in doubles with Grassy Seed to keep them alive and boost it with Helping Hand. It now has a solid niche over Venusaur, Ferrothorn and Tangrowth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:55:24 No.48384064 Report

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>>48383850
>It does need to be buffed. There is no reason to ever use it over venusaur or ferrothorn
But those two are in OU so therefore that means Meganium should stay a shitmon forever, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Oct 2021 19:58:50 No.48384080 Report

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>>48383956
>All the Gen 2 starters need a stat, ability and movepool reworking,
To be fair Feraligatr only needs a slight improvement but the other two are worthless. Game Freak clearly hated Johto starter their fans considering how they've been treated, but considering Cyndaquil was picked as the Legends starter out out all the choose they had, there's a chance in hell that they'll get the buffs they need.

I like all of your ideas for Meganium (though Knock is a stretch but considering how broken and illogical shillmon's movepools are my as well let Meganium get Knock off.

I'll copy and paste some of my ideas (we have a bit of overlap)

Ability Changes
Meganium (Leaf Guard swapped out for Flower Veil)

>Stat Changes (so that they all have 535 BST)
Meganium: +10 HP
Typhlosion: +1 Speed
Feraligatr: +5 Attack
(Stat Changes are the least likely buff since its clear that Starter don't get stats buffs, if they did we all now Charizard would have had Eternamax Eternatus's Stats)

>Movepool Additions
>Meganium
Stun Spore
Sleep Powder
Rage Powder
Helping Hand
Strength Sap
Calm Mind
Growth
Pollen Puff
Body Press
Dragon Pulse
Weather Ball
Rock Slide
Terrain Pulse
Life Dew
Breaking Swipe
Flower Shield
Floral Healing
Draining Kiss
Wish
Mirror Coat (Already Knows Counter and the Screens)
Jungle Healing (I don’t care if it’s a Signature move, Meganium deserves more than Zarude)

>Typhlosion
Earth Power
Scorching Sands
Ancient Power
Morning Sun
Swords Dance
Nasty Plot
Agility
Extreme Speed
Parting Shot
Hyper Voice
Explosion
Boomburst (Called Sound Wave Explosion)

>Feraligatr
Flip Turn
Close Combat
Psychic Fangs
Scale Shot
Jaw Lock
Beat Up
Thunder Fang (Alligator Clamps)

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