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Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 08:39:48 No.48436959 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48436963 >>48436988 >>48437064 >>48437066 >>48437132 >>48437154 >>48437185 >>48438607 >>48439786 >>48439816 >>48441771

I don't care what anyone says. Gen 2's Kanto was unbelievably shitty.
>Region feels like a gutted out ghost town; a lot of areas that do stay are laughably downsized
>No story at all, shit level curve as a result of no roadblocks
>The god awful saffron city music plays in every town, a few route themes are missing and also replaced with awful remixes of gen 1 tracks
>Region has multiple Johto Pokemon that can only be caught in Kanto
>Zero signs of the region actually changing with time other than everything shrinking and lavender town getting a radio tower
How do people enjoy or defend this shit? Why is Kanto so fucking awful in GSC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 08:40:55 No.48436963 Report

Quoted By: >>48436968 >>48436986 >>48437600

>>48436959
>>Region has multiple Johto Pokemon that can only be caught in Kanto
then they're not johto pokemon, are they dumbass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 08:43:35 No.48436968 Report

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>>48436963
fpbp, op is a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 08:49:45 No.48436986 Report

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>>48436963
such a johtard cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 08:50:44 No.48436988 Report

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>>48436959
the fact that kanto even exists is already more than any other gen can offer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:12:10 No.48437064 Report

Quoted By: >>48437137

>>48436959
I'm fine with Kanto being a sized down smaller version, you're supposed to be an accomplished trainer that beat the league, it feels right to be able to quickly progress through and get all badges without trouble. What's really annoying is the shitty level curve, it gets tedious fighting lv 30 Mons when your team is approaching 50. It wouldn't annoy me as much if it wasn't for the fact that at the end you're still 10 levels too short for Mt Silver and have to grind Elite 4 to be able to beat Red.

Meghan !sUnRxhzu8Q

Meghan !sUnRxhzu8Q Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:12:23 No.48437066 Report

Quoted By: >>48437071

>>48436959
Ok now compare it to other games which have a second region built in
You can’t. Because Crystal is the best and it’s only ONLY flaw is that it tries to fit too much in to a small cartridge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:13:04 No.48437068 Report

Quoted By: >>48437076

It's still more postgame than every other game in the series. And battling the old Gym Leaders with new teams was cool as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:14:37 No.48437071 Report

Quoted By: >>48437074 >>48437080

>>48437066
What about the Sevii Islands?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:15:09 No.48437074 Report

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>>48437071
smaller than kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:15:13 No.48437075 Report

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I'd rather have a shit Kanto than no Kanto at all. Johto is too short to be a whole game by itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:15:24 No.48437076 Report

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>>48437068
>game is so shit it relies on a previous region for postgame
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:16:27 No.48437079 Report

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>>48437076
How is that a valid argument?

Meghan !sUnRxhzu8Q

Meghan !sUnRxhzu8Q Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:16:34 No.48437080 Report

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>>48437071
Not a region. Next

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:17:44 No.48437083 Report

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>>48437076
>zoomers don't understand what a real sequel is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:19:02 No.48437088 Report

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>>48437083
Oh so sequels are SUPPOSED to recycle old shit and not build off of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:23:01 No.48437099 Report

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>>48437088
Gen 2 are the only games that build off previous ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:24:27 No.48437104 Report

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>>48437099
>copy pasting an older region = building off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:26:01 No.48437109 Report

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>>48437104
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:26:48 No.48437112 Report

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>>48437109
Good to know even the self-proclaimed "Johtochads" enjoy sucking off GameFreak when they roll out dogshit content

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:37:02 No.48437132 Report

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>>48436959
>No story at all
But this is actually a positive thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:40:02 No.48437137 Report

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>>48437064
tbf you can beat Red with a four/five L. 60 Pokémon team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:45:34 No.48437154 Report

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>>48436959
>B-but you had to be there to even understand, you buzzword underage person!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:49:19 No.48437168 Report

Quoted By: >>48437174

>>48437137
Doing the 8 badges in Kanto usually leaves me with a team thats ~ L.50. That makes Red unbeatable without spamming items, his Espeon will sweep through your team and if by chance you manage to get past it Snorlax will finish the job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:51:42 No.48437174 Report

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>>48437168

He's supposed to be a RPG superboss. This is literally like complaining you can't beat Ozma in FF9 or Penance in FFX without grinding your characters' levels much higher than they would normally be at that point in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 09:59:10 No.48437185 Report

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>>48436959
>Zero signs of the region actually changing with time other than everything shrinking and lavender town getting a radio tower

What are Viridian Trainer House, Mt. Moon Square, Janine's Gym succession, Magnet Train Station, Power Plant restoration and the blackout plot?
GSC Kanto had a lot of positive changes that antijohtofags just fail to recognize. Yes, there's a lot of cut content due to time constraints, so some of the complaints are legit indeed. Luckily, HGSS fixed most of the flaws, while keeping GSC's plot progression.
And while I do think that HGSS had less "soul" than the original (due to some bad/rushed design choices like reusing DPPt assets, lost detail here and there or some meh music remixes), I appreciate most of the changes done to Kanto in HGSS (except for the parts where it blatantly copies genwun instead of inventing something new). I just wish they made Lavender Radio Tower explorable.

And fuck you, most of the music remixes in GSC are great. They give a different vibe than the Gen I ones and this is what makes them special. They just fit into the experience. Sometimes I feel that faggots like OP are just butthurt that GSC Kanto wasn't a carbon copy of Genwun with exact same events and music. But it was never supposed to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 11:18:18 No.48437404 Report

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>>48437083
That's LITERALLY what GSC did you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 12:19:44 No.48437600 Report

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>>48436963
I agree with you that they're not Johto Pokemon, but they shouldn't be treated as such since they get retconned out every time a Gen 1 game is remade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 16:12:30 No.48438607 Report

Quoted By: >>48438730

>>48436959
I also tend to just rush through all the Gym Leaders. The only story elements I tend to remember are the foreign "Bye a Go Go" Rocket Grunt who hides the machine part in the Cerulean Gym and the Copycat, because you need to give her the lost Clefairy doll to get the Magnet Train pass. Johto is the main reason I play GSC, though GSC Kanto isn't as terrible as you make it out to be and HGSS fixes many of the more glaring issues with GSC Kanto. I don't like how the made Mewtwo available in Cerulean Cave in HGSS though, because it implies that the FRLG player character canonically failed to capture Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 16:31:53 No.48438730 Report

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>>48438607
>Johto is the main reason I play GSC
See this is what people like OP are too stupid to understand. Believe of not, the main point of the Gen 2 games is Johto, that’s why all the daily events and places worth exploring are there. KANTOOOOO is just a bonus boss rush with some extra land to train and some Easter eggs for old players.
Honestly HGSS should have never “expanded” Kanto. All it did was make poke fans inflate Kanto’s importance and somehow think Johto “relies” on it, when the ability to visit Kanto was supposed to be a surprise on the first place not the main reason to play the games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 19:26:09 No.48439786 Report

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>>48436959
I like a good red hack that adds a couple more routes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 19:27:19 No.48439793 Report

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>>48439786

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 19:28:13 No.48439802 Report

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>>48439793
the gen 3 sprites are so goddamn shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 19:29:48 No.48439816 Report

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>>48436959
I mean, it makes sense, kanto was kind of just a bonus to the game, someone had already gone through there and solved all their problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 23:41:54 No.48441588 Report

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>>48439802
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 23:56:07 No.48441661 Report

Quoted By: >>48441674

>fire, thunder, leaf, water stones unobtainable until Kanto
>you can only get one of each
whyyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Oct 2021 23:58:48 No.48441674 Report

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>>48441661
Are you retarded? You know you can get them from people calling your right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 00:03:05 No.48441688 Report

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It's supposed to be mono-no-aware/cherry blossoms fall/life is transient/nothing is forever Japanese philosophy. It's fading by design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Oct 2021 00:20:16 No.48441771 Report

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>>48436959
Anyone who says otherwise is just being a contrarian.

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