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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:43:13 No.48461592 View View Reply Original Report

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When the dust settles, which will come out on top in terms of being the worst?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:43:44 No.48461595 Report

Quoted By: >>48461617 >>48463964

>>48461592
LGPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:45:21 No.48461613 Report

Quoted By: >>48462715

>>48461592
BDSP has plenty that already elevates it above ORAS, like HMs in the poketch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:46:25 No.48461617 Report

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>>48461595
LGPE was just TPC attempting to capitalize on Pokémon Go’s success. Which somewhat worked considering SwSh ended up being the best selling Pokémon games since RB/GS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:46:52 No.48461619 Report

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>>48461592
ORAS may not be good as emerald but it is still at least a 7/10, the best thing from Gen 6 that wasn't Pokken, and objectively besides legitment features being missing or difficulty downgrade, can't be deconstructed without made up strawman that no reasonable person would give a shit about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 00:50:02 No.48461636 Report

Quoted By: >>48461716

>>48461592
I can't get over Dialga having neckrolls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:02:08 No.48461716 Report

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>>48461636
It’s off model fetish fan art

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:36:02 No.48461877 Report

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>>48461592
ORAS was much better, but they're both meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:38:28 No.48461890 Report

Quoted By: >>48461904 >>48461912

>>48461592
>Oras removes features
>BDSP retains and adds to features people memed would be removed (Underground, Ball effects)
Yeah it's pretty fucking clear which one is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:40:28 No.48461904 Report

Quoted By: >>48461941

>>48461890
>ORAS keeps RS features and cuts Emerald features
>BDSP keeps DP features and cuts Platinum features
they're the same crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:42:23 No.48461912 Report

Quoted By: >>48461932

>>48461890
This. BDSP only removed pointless stuff like the game corner, battle frontier, distortion world, base customization, contest minigames, and platinum content / post-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:43:48 No.48461915 Report

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>>48461592
HGSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:44:24 No.48461919 Report

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>ORAS added new forms for the Weather Trio
>BDSP did not add new forms for the Creation Trio
BDSP is the worst. HG/SS gets a pass because it added so much extra content; also, adding new legendary forms was not the expectation back then. There's no excuse for the Creation Trio not to be updated with new forms with a 780 BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:46:24 No.48461932 Report

Quoted By: >>48461945

>>48461912
What did ORAS cut that wasn't pointless, according to your shit standards. You reek of cold hard shillng.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:49:44 No.48461941 Report

Quoted By: >>48463936

>>48461904
>BDSP keeps DP features and cuts Platinum features
post elo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 01:51:18 No.48461945 Report

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>>48461932
I think that's sarcasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 02:12:13 No.48462071 Report

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>>48461592
Both are complete dogshit, it doesn't matter which turd is shittier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 03:32:31 No.48462541 Report

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BDSP is already better based on what we know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 03:33:41 No.48462547 Report

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Of those two? Probably ORAS. Worst remakes definitely go to FRLG though.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 03:51:35 No.48462665 Report

Quoted By: >>48463930

>>48461592
ORAS
>New lore that ties it in to the rest of the games
>Megas for the starters and Primals Legendary Trio making the people who started with Hoenn feel like the starts and legendaries they entered the franchise with are being celebrated
>New, cinematic cutscenes like flying into space on Mega Ryquaza to fight Deoxys in the Postgame Episode
>Made in the style of the current generation giving the players who started with Hoenn a larger scale adventure to go on--allowing them to relive Hoenn but closer to how they imagined it when they were kids
>Has all available Pokemon at the time programmed in

BDSP
>No new lore
>Starters and Legendary Trio get shit. People who started with Sinnoh feel like their starters and legends are neglected and don't get anything special. They'll forever be objectively weaker than the Hoenn/Kanto Legends and Starters despite the Sinnoh Legendary Trio literally being the creators of the universe and gods of time and space
>Chibi cutscenes just like in the originals with no dramatic weight. Players who started with DP will just have to keep dreaming to see their adventure the way they imagined it in their heads
>Probably no postgame episode with Giratina.
>No National Dex despite ILCA not having to do anything graphically intensive or especially memory-consuming to remake a 128MB game 1 for 1.

Complain all you want about "muh features" and "muh Emerald" and "muh Battle Frontier" but I'll take ORAS any day over just trying to sell me the exact same $40 game again but for $60.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:02:12 No.48462715 Report

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>>48461613
and ORAS has the National Dex, Soaring, the DexNav, online Secret Bases, amie minigames/super training, the PSS, and an artstyle that isn't vomit. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:07:25 No.48462732 Report

Quoted By: >>48462754 >>48463244

>>48462715
My point is that BDSP actually fixes flaws in DP while ORAS just wastes time on garbage no one needed like new megas and the delta episode.
Oh boy something I'll never use over Fly, thanks ORAS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:09:36 No.48462739 Report

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>>48461592
OrAs. What were they smoking when they decided for breakable TMs to return

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:12:46 No.48462754 Report

Quoted By: >>48462777

>>48462732
>My point is that BDSP actually fixes flaws in DP
Except the part where DP were literally unfinished like Fantina's gym and the bland/samey tilesets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:19:17 No.48462777 Report

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>>48462754
>Fantina's gym
Post a picture of it in BDSP schizo.
>the bland/samey tilesets
The tiles look fine.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:39:42 No.48462850 Report

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>>48461592
ORAS wins solely for having a story expansion and a new story postgame with Delta Episode.
If BDSP could at least get something like Delta Episode, I'd rank it better than ORAS maybe.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 04:53:09 No.48462927 Report

Quoted By: >>48465812

>>48461592
ORAS has one thing over BDSP for me and that's modernization. It feels in many areas like what Hoenn was supposed to be all along. Gameplay was also updated to align with the most recent games (XY), whereas BDSP is weirdly selective. Like, no HMs, but TMs are breakable again? The underground is bigger, but Secret Bases are smaller?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 05:38:06 No.48463134 Report

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>>48461592
>single use TMs
Guess it's already decided.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 06:00:33 No.48463227 Report

Quoted By: >>48465818

>>48461592
ORAS
>Kept the national dex (721 mons)
>Added about 20 new forms (megas + primals)
>Improved the contests
>Updated the story tying in to XY lore and added an extra chapter and new characters
>DexNav as the best QoL tool there is in the entire series
>The artstyle is conforming to the era/technology

BDSP this far
>Only 493 Pokemon
>Not a single new mon or form afawk (even LGPE had Meltan and Melmetal)
>The exact same story, characters, outfits, dialogs...
>The artstyle looks even worse than SwSh and that's quite an "accomplishment"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 06:03:44 No.48463244 Report

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>>48462732
Well, surprise! I liked soaring. I prefer 20 megas over nothing new. Dexnav is great no matter how you look at it. And most of all, they tried with ORAS. BDSP has literally 0 effort and 0 imagination behind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 07:35:08 No.48463513 Report

Quoted By: >>48463589 >>48463957

>>48461592
BDSP is worse than ORAS.
>It has no mega evolution.
>It's relying on Pokemon Legends, it's a 99% copy and paste.
Comparing both endgames; the Delta Episode is better than the Fight Area. But BDSP will obviously have a battle frontier, which ORAS lacked and made a joke of. Saying that it was still under construction. BDSP could've been alot better than what we already know it is..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:02:05 No.48463575 Report

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>>48461592
Oras hands down, because of that dumb bitch and the whole bullshit of not including BF or mega Flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:03:55 No.48463582 Report

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ORAS actually looks like a remake.
BDSP looks like it was made by a different company.. without permission... in 2011.

argue all you want about "muh features" I don't understand how anyone can get past the vomit-inducing and quite frankly, lazy graphical choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:05:30 No.48463589 Report

Quoted By: >>48463634

>>48463513
>But BDSP will obviously have a battle frontier
Source that it'll have the Battle Frontier and not the Battle Tower? DP only had the Battle Tower and it seems to be a DP remake and not a Platinum remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:19:51 No.48463634 Report

Quoted By: >>48463642

>>48463589
Oh mb, I got the Tower and the Frontier mixed up. lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:25:15 No.48463642 Report

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>>48463634
ORAS had the Battle Maison copy pasted from X and Y, which is obviously worse than the Battle Frontier, but serviceable a a Battle Tower clone. If BDSP only has the Battle Tower and not all five Battle Frontier facilities then there's not much difference between ORAS and BDSP in that regard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 08:38:38 No.48463690 Report

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>>48461592
ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 10:29:41 No.48463930 Report

Quoted By: >>48464293

>>48462665
Why does GF hate gen 4 so much...

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 10:35:13 No.48463936 Report

Quoted By: >>48464253

>>48461941
I don’t see Platinum’s Amity Square

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 10:42:31 No.48463957 Report

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>>48463513
>the Delta Episode is better than the Fight Area.
Fly here, fly there. Go to places you already been just to here about Multiverse shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 10:44:38 No.48463964 Report

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>>48461595
LGPE isn't that bad it could be better.
>>48461592
I had fun with ORAS but then got easily bored of it. The next remake isn't out yet so we will see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 12:17:18 No.48464253 Report

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>>48463936
>starters following you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 12:27:47 No.48464293 Report

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>>48463930
except they're releasing 2 games related to sinnoh instead of 1, i actually think the remake was made just so people wouldn't complain about it's absence

not saying that they're doing bad or good, just that it seems like they're pushing the sinnoh agenda more than they've done with hoenn, sinnoh has piplup after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:29:46 No.48465812 Report

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>>48462927
You do realize that's a cutscene, right?? Who's to say BDSP won't have full sized trainer models and modernization when a cutscene happens??

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:30:50 No.48465818 Report

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>>48463227
>>The artstyle is conforming to the era/technology
Very Subjective. Many people hated the hybrid chibis in ORAS and LGPE.

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