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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:19:44 No.48643358 View View Reply Original Report

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>ORAS CHANGES TOO MUCH SO IT'S SHIT
>BDSP CHANGES TOO LITTLE SO IT'S SHIT
Just admit you are all too autistic to enjoy anything anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:21:05 No.48643377 Report

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>>48643358
>/vp/ is one person

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:21:49 No.48643384 Report

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>>48643358
>Implying that's a binary choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:22:31 No.48643396 Report

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ORAS was almost perfect. All it needed was the battle frontier. Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:23:46 No.48643411 Report

Quoted By: >>48643476

>>48643358
ORAS changed the wrong things and didn't change where it needed to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:25:05 No.48643426 Report

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>>48643358
>HGSS
They used to do great remake but they turned faggots the moment they shifted 3D. Go dilate somewhere else

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:25:49 No.48643434 Report

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>>48643396
Yeah this. It still hurts my heart when I see or talk about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:27:00 No.48643447 Report

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>>48643358
>ORAS CHANGES TOO MUCH SO IT'S SHIT
Nobody ever had this as their main gripe with ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:29:16 No.48643465 Report

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>>48643396
ORAS was a pile of dog shit actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:29:37 No.48643474 Report

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>>48643396
>>48643434
Awful takes. ORAS was only marginally better than BDSP in incorporating elements from the third version.
Not to mention ORAS gimping pretty much every side quest in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:29:43 No.48643476 Report

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>>48643411
This. It's almost like haphazardly changing things and being "faithful" to a fault are things remakes should avoid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:30:47 No.48643492 Report

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>>48643358

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:31:02 No.48643496 Report

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i wouldn't care about BDSP if it wasnt for the fact that the EXP share rails the fuck out of any fun the games could have

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:32:30 No.48643517 Report

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>has to make up a narrative that was never brought up while taking about ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:34:03 No.48643534 Report

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>>48643358
The new stuff was the only good thing about ORAS. The rest of it is garbage because RS are garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:39:23 No.48643596 Report

Quoted By: >>48643620 >>48643790

>>48643492
I don't see the problem. The leap in graphics from GBC to DS was huge, going from very limited color 8-bit 2D to a rather primitive 3D accelerator. The ROM size was also an issue in the first couple gens. With all the Pokemon taking up space there wasn't that much room left. The leap from DS to Switch isn't as big -- better resolution, bigger textures, more polygons, sharers, but both are 3D and neither have ROM size constraints small enough to force decisions about what to cut.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:41:24 No.48643620 Report

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>>48643596
>I don't see the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:42:03 No.48643630 Report

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>>48643358
Can you show me one persona who said it changed too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:43:03 No.48643645 Report

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>>48643620
Nice fmv cutscene

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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:43:39 No.48643650 Report

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>Every game should be remade the same way
>Every game has the exact same flaws and nuances

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:46:28 No.48643690 Report

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>>48643620
Top: real time rendered 3D with an intentionally cartoony look
Bottom left: background.png with a single 3D model moving on top of it
Bottom right: cutscene.mp4

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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:55:53 No.48643790 Report

Quoted By: >>48643911

>>48643596
>The leap from DS to Switch isn't as big

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 20:59:11 No.48643828 Report

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>enjoyed hgss
>Enjoyed xy
>Enjoyed oras
>Enjoyed sm
>Enjoyed SwSh
>BDSP still looks like terrible unforgivable garbage

Your thread is worthless OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:00:47 No.48643854 Report

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>>48643358
They both cut content so they're shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:03:28 No.48643891 Report

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I really liked ORAS, my only gripe was the lack of battle frontier.
I reallt enjoyed D/P/Pt as well, but these remakes are just lazy outsourced cash grabs. If we're lucky GF can pull off a hail mary and make PLA fun and relatively good.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:04:04 No.48643902 Report

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>>48643358

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:04:38 No.48643911 Report

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>>48643790
It objectively isn't. It is a big upgrade, but the leap from 2D with 8-bit constraints to 3D is bigger especially in terms of how much it limits devs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:05:53 No.48643930 Report

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>>48643620
Please don't use VIIR in your comparisons. As much as I hate BDSP, as a Final Fantasy fan I also hate VIIR for being a butchered mess.

Also it's a stealth sequel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:06:44 No.48643943 Report

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>>48643358
>ORAS CHANGES TOO MUCH SO IT'S SHIT
This was not the main complaint about ORAS, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:11:12 No.48644006 Report

Quoted By: >>48644266

>>48643358
>>ORAS CHANGES TOO MUCH SO IT'S SHIT
It's shit not because it has changed too much, but because it has changed for worse without addressing problems from the originals.

BDSM, by the other hand, changes nothing. Why making a remake without fixing flaws?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:17:45 No.48644078 Report

Quoted By: >>48644273

>>48643911
I guess the difference is there were still huge limitations with the DS that just shouldn't be a problem on Switch. There's no reason why Sinnoh couldn't have been in true 3D environment for example considering the types of games the switch has, that sort of shit is just unthinkable on DS. I mean don't expect GF to ever push the Switch to its limits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:32:51 No.48644250 Report

Quoted By: >>48644616 >>48644654 >>48644681

>>48643396
Everyone and their mothers hated OR/AS in 2014 because they change so much (compared to HG/SS to G/S)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:34:23 No.48644266 Report

Quoted By: >>48644290

>>48644006
>BDSM, by the other hand, changes nothing. Why making a remake without fixing flaws?
It doesn't require an extra touchscreen gimmick so that right there is already an improvement. Same with the Skyward Sword remake for Switch, nobody complained about that. Pokefags just have autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:34:47 No.48644273 Report

Quoted By: >>48644646

>>48644078
Then you'd be bitching endlessly that they changed your favorite area too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:35:44 No.48644290 Report

Quoted By: >>48644613

>>48644266
>Same with the Skyward Sword remake for Switch, nobody complained about that
10/10 bait
that's one of the most complained about nintendo games in the entire switch era you dunce

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:56:07 No.48644583 Report

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>>48643377
this, fucking retards
>>BDSP IS BAD
>>BDSP IS SHIT
>HUURRR YOU GUYS JUST CAN'T DECIDE ON ANYTHING HUH
shut the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:59:10 No.48644613 Report

Quoted By: >>48645035

>>48644290
Did people actually complain about Skyward Sword HD though? It sold faster than it's predecessor. Nobody liked the original gimmicks and everyone appreciated that they got removed. Maybe you should go outside and leave your bubble

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 21:59:12 No.48644616 Report

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>>48644250
The fuck is this revisionist shit.
If anything people complained that HGSS was better at incorporating Crystal elements than ORAS was at Emerald's.
And it's not like HGSS didn't change other things, Kanto in HGSS is pretty damn different from in GSC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:02:27 No.48644646 Report

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>>48644273
I like FF7R, that's my answer to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:03:07 No.48644654 Report

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>>48644250
Never seen this complaint before.
It was either about the battle frontier or the hyper casualisation ( too easy, gifting the lati@s mid game)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:04:41 No.48644681 Report

Quoted By: >>48644830

>>48644250
The only shit changes was ruining Mauville City and whatever the fuck they did to granite cave. That was it. The game was still fucking terrible solely due to the lack of the battle frontier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:13:34 No.48644830 Report

Quoted By: >>48644881 >>48644938 >>48647334

>>48644681
>dumbed down Trick House
>removed Berry Blender
>dumbed down Pokéblocks in general
>dumbed down Sky Pillar
>dumbed down Safari Zone
Just from the top of my head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:14:47 No.48644850 Report

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>>48643358
I disliked how little they tried with Trainer teams and movesets - especially Team Magma and Team Aqua. Archie and Maxie were fucking pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:16:16 No.48644867 Report

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>>48643396
Unironically this.
I've hated every game since BW2, but I would have liked ORAS if it had had the Battle Frontier. The fact that we've only gotten a Battle Tower clone (with features taken away with every new game) is fucking pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:17:05 No.48644881 Report

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>>48644830
Oh right, now I remember why I REALLY hated ORAS aside from the obvious BF fuck you
Still, those weren't changes, they were just the result of dumbing down the game which the Diaper remake also has
Regardless, OP is a fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:18:29 No.48644904 Report

Quoted By: >>48644926 >>48644930 >>48646425

>>48643620
It's unfair to blame Nintendo for Gamefreak being run by lazy fucks.
Gamefreak were the ones who said pokemon were cut because of fancy 3D environments, and now with a 2.5D game, pokemon are also left out and features are even taken out of games from over a decade ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:19:49 No.48644926 Report

Quoted By: >>48644966 >>48646425

>>48644904
It's unfair to blame GameFreak for a game they barely had any involvement with. At least Nintendo is distributing BDSP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:20:11 No.48644930 Report

Quoted By: >>48644966 >>48644977 >>48645016

>>48644904
They cut pokemon because it would've taken a long-ass time to properly balance the meta and they wanted to appeal to competitive fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:20:44 No.48644936 Report

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>>48643358
>changes too much
No, it changed things too poorly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:20:53 No.48644938 Report

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>>48644830
It sucks how I went into the game completely blind. Managed to avoid spoilers and pre-ordered the game because I thought there was no way a remake could be bad, not after the last remake was Heart Gold and Soul Silver.
What a mistake that was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:21:34 No.48644947 Report

Quoted By: >>48645869

>>48643492
To be fair this isnt gf making the remakes. Legends you can "technically" say is a remake and theyre still following that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:23:30 No.48644966 Report

Quoted By: >>48645022

>>48644926
I've been shit talking Gamefreak for every new Pokemon game that has come out. I thought 3D was a mistake, but after seeing this "remakes" (they're more like remasters) it seems that they're just retards.
>>48644930
Wrong. The pokemon running the meta before are still there now. To think that even a bit of thought went into competitive is retarded, they're focused on literal retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:24:01 No.48644977 Report

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>>48644930
>bring back a bunch of op pokemon in dlc and introduce several new ridiculously op mons

no this is not true at all, they couldve just make restricted seasons like they're doing now if that's what they wanted. the real reason is just that there's to many pokemon to put them all in the game with how little time they have

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:24:20 No.48644984 Report

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>>48643396
tpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:25:48 No.48645008 Report

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>>48643358
Paypigs get the meatgrinder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:26:05 No.48645016 Report

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>>48644930
The two reasons they gave was to improve animations and to improve balance.
Both a pure bullshit, as for balance specifically:
>the VGC meta has never ever been balanced
>if they cared about competitive they would actually release balance patches like every single serious multiplayer game
>they could just ban non-regional Pokémon from the meta, which they frequently did in the previous generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:26:21 No.48645022 Report

Quoted By: >>48645033

>>48644966
GF had no role in bdsp its disingenuous to claim that they had a play in ita development. This is all ilca and tpci. Gf is working on legends, thats the game we can criticize them for

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:27:05 No.48645029 Report

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>>48643358
ORAS was shit because it didnt include msot of Emerald content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:27:18 No.48645033 Report

Quoted By: >>48645103

>>48645022
Masuda was director

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:27:34 No.48645035 Report

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>>48644613
It sold faster because tendies eat anything Nintendo shuts out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:30:40 No.48645073 Report

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>>48643358
>ORAS CHANGES TOO MUCH
Lmao what? It changed like 3 things and 2 of those were basically just cosmetic. The delta episode is oretty dogshit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 22:32:32 No.48645103 Report

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>>48645033
Yea hes 1 dude and he barely even works on the games anymore, that's not all of gf working on it. Target your criticism towards masuda if you have an issue with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Nov 2021 23:21:14 No.48645869 Report

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>>48644947
>To be fair this isnt gf making the remakes.
Doesn't really matter since Gamefreak's philosophy on remakes changed after HGSS, with LGPE being a shining example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 00:00:26 No.48646425 Report

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>>48644904
>>48644926
The real culprit here is TPCI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 00:27:19 No.48646815 Report

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>>48643358
>>BDSP CHANGES TOO LITTLE SO IT'S SHIT
>Literally just takes out content and waters down the entire thing to the point Platinum has more content.
>Doesn't even add any new fucking pokemon so there's even less of a reason to play it.
>Changes too little

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 00:45:41 No.48647038 Report

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>>48643358
Both of these remakes are shit and the originals are infinitely more enjoyable

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Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 01:11:51 No.48647334 Report

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>>48644830
don't forget New Mauville

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Anonymous Tue 09 Nov 2021 01:12:53 No.48647343 Report

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>>48647334
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