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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 05:59:03 No.48757669 View View Reply Original Report

>pokemon natures offer a 10% boost to a stat
>high stats literally get a bigger bonus
>higher bst=higher stats
>natures are biased against shitmons
>applied after EVs/IVs to punish poorly trained/bred mons
>encourages all-in builds to get the maximum benefit
>needing to search for non shit natures when playing is a pain
Why are natures good for the game again? And why aren't they just a flat +/- 10 to the base stats?

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:05:41 No.48757704 Report

Quoted By: >>48757720

>>48757669
if they were a flat 10% they'd still be exactly the same impact when it comes to building/searching for the right natures.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:08:02 No.48757720 Report

Quoted By: >>48757738

>>48757704
Not a flat 10%, a flat 10.
So a pokemon with 50 in a stat would get bumped up to 60, and a pokemon with 130 would get bumped up to 140. Instead of how it works now where they would get bumped up to 55/143

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:09:56 No.48757728 Report

Quoted By: >>48757793 >>48757833

Flat and percentile bonuses would accomplish the same thing, the bigger base number will stay bigger unless the boost arbitrarily scales inversely proportionate to your base stats, so it doesn't matter either way.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:11:59 No.48757738 Report

Quoted By: >>48757793

>>48757720
Ok. People will still do exactly the same thing. Hell it'll matter even more for early game in that case, 10 points is a hell of a lot for the first few gyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:21:30 No.48757793 Report

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>>48757728
They'd see the same numerical increase in the stats, but measured as a percentage increase you'd see higher gains in lower stats. 10 is 20% of 50, but 10% of 100. It makes the option of investing in a lower stat more appealing and isn't biased towards mons with higher stats.

>>48757738
10 to the bst... which is 10 points at level 50 and 20 at level 100...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 06:31:28 No.48757833 Report

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>>48757669
>Why are natures good for the game again?
They're not. They're a roundabout way of giving people options to customize pokemon and they don't accomplish it very well. Only recently did we get nature mints and they're still needlessly scarce. They're not that big a deal in terms of "all-in" builds; if a pokemon is good at a thing it will make them better at it or allow them to specialize to handle certain threats. (e.g. investing in phys or special stats) If it was flat then that wouldn't change; pokemon need to specialize to be useful.

>>48757728
Flat bonuses benefit shitmons more because it ultimately results in stats becoming more homogenized between the strong and the weak pokemon. You can see this illustrated with extreme hypothetical examples such as natures giving +100 or +1000 to a stat; 1200 vs. 1400 isn't going to be as functionally different as 200 vs. 400.

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