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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:15:58 No.48762361 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48762380 >>48762395 >>48762401 >>48762473 >>48762567 >>48762958 >>48763630 >>48766695

Should be immune to water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:17:24 No.48762380 Report

Quoted By: >>48762388 >>48762966

>>48762361
what about
>a bunch of hot coal
says "immune to water" to you?
that makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:18:09 No.48762388 Report

Quoted By: >>48762402 >>48762409 >>48762412

>>48762380
>why should a steam engine that requires water to run not be immune to water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:19:20 No.48762395 Report

Quoted By: >>48762441

>>48762361
>one of the best pokemon in the game should be even better because I’m a retard who stares at type charts instead of playing the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:19:23 No.48762396 Report

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practically is, nobody wants to give it the free boost. The crippling thing is the other thing Fire/Rock is 4x weak to

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:20:02 No.48762401 Report

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>>48762361
Ahahaha... Primal Groudon would no longer be unique and memorable if its niche of nullifying water attacks based on extreme heat were given to other Pokemon, purease undahstando.
Huh? What do you mean you can't Primal Revert in SWHS? (Laughs)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:20:03 No.48762402 Report

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>>48762388
does it look like an engine?
no. it's just a bunch of coal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:20:53 No.48762409 Report

Quoted By: >>48763023

>>48762388
where is the steam engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:21:10 No.48762412 Report

Quoted By: >>48762470 >>48762689

>>48762388
It's a delicate process, anon
Water produces steam, but it also lowers the heat and thus prevents the coal from burning, and cold coals wont make steam
If you want to lower it by any amount, it should go from 4x to 3x weak, but really thats about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:23:46 No.48762435 Report

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>one of the best Pokemon in the official format should be even stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:24:33 No.48762441 Report

Quoted By: >>48762453 >>48763180

>>48762395

>one of the best
>ZU tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:25:44 No.48762453 Report

Quoted By: >>48762459

>>48762441
>fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:26:13 No.48762459 Report

Quoted By: >>48762511

>>48762453

Still only one that matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:27:11 No.48762470 Report

Quoted By: >>48762558

>>48762412
>If you want to lower it by any amount, it should go from 4x to 3x weak, but really thats about it
No. It should be immune to water otherwise there is no point in the ability besides switching into fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:27:23 No.48762473 Report

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>>48762361
you made it worse dipshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:31:11 No.48762511 Report

Quoted By: >>48762982

>>48762459
Is that why TPC have went out of their way to painstakingly pander to Smogon's Singles formats?
Oh wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:34:15 No.48762551 Report

Quoted By: >>48762564 >>48762913

what an ugly design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:35:03 No.48762558 Report

Quoted By: >>48762582 >>48762689

>>48762470
No, that's stupid. Steam engines rust all the time when not maintained. It shouldn't be 4x, I agree, but having it be immune is just dumb from a balancing standpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:35:43 No.48762564 Report

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>>48762551
But it's designed like kino Kanto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:36:11 No.48762567 Report

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>>48762361
why?

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:38:24 No.48762582 Report

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>>48762558
>from a balancing standpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:45:57 No.48762653 Report

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>>48762582
Sorry anon, game freak is a small indie company. they didn't have the time or manpower to make your shitty coal ogre immune to fire. prease understandaru

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:49:28 No.48762689 Report

Quoted By: >>48762742 >>48762941

>>48762558
>>48762412
>4x to 3x
What difference does that make? It's still getting one hit KO'd. Abilities that increase stats when hit by a certain attack but don't nullify said attack are dumb. Whoever said "NOOOOOOO AZUMARILL CAN'T HAVE SAP SIPPER" or "SEAKING CAN'T HAVE LIGHTNING ROD"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 19:56:21 No.48762742 Report

Quoted By: >>48762813

>>48762689
Rabbits eat grass
Goldfish survive electric shock
These thing happen all the time irl anon, thats why they have those abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:04:31 No.48762813 Report

Quoted By: >>48763116

>>48762742
According to you bibarel shouldn't be weak to grass because beavers eat bark. And grass type moves aren't the act of shoving grass down the other Pokemon's throat. It's shit like attacking with tree branches, weaponized leaves, vines, and logs. All Pokemon can drink liquids including fresh water but pressurized water could hurt. If you were to hit a rabbit over the head with a log it would die. You could probably easily kill a goldfish with electricity, don't know what you're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:15:13 No.48762913 Report

Quoted By: >>48763856

>>48762551
It's fucking coal. What did you expect it to look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:18:35 No.48762941 Report

Quoted By: >>48762978

>>48762689
There's a big difference between giving +1 attack or special attack to relatively weak Pokemon, and giving +6 speed to a strong Pokemon; especially when that +6 speed is almost always accompanied by +2 attack +2 special attack from WP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:19:42 No.48762958 Report

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>>48762361
Any Volcanic should be immune to Water and Grass.
Rhyperior, Magcargo and Camerupt liked that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:20:22 No.48762966 Report

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>>48762380
Coal mine fires literally cannot be put out with water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:21:30 No.48762978 Report

Quoted By: >>48763018

>>48762941
Weakness policy does not activate if no damage is applied and if you got rid of the water weakness all coals would be running the air balloon anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:21:51 No.48762982 Report

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>>48762511
heavy duty boots, fair, it's basically the only change made for singles, but it's something

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:22:00 No.48762983 Report

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>>from a balancing standpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:25:33 No.48763018 Report

Quoted By: >>48763063

>>48762978
So steam engine would be +6 speed when hit by a water attack and water immunity? I mean it'd be interesting, but I think it'd be a nerf overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:26:02 No.48763023 Report

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>>48762409
look at ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:31:42 No.48763063 Report

Quoted By: >>48763528

>>48763018
Then reduce the speed boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:39:42 No.48763116 Report

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>>48762813
Is bark grass? No????
retard

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 20:47:27 No.48763180 Report

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>>48762441
its pretty good in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 21:24:55 No.48763528 Report

Quoted By: >>48765440

>>48763063
You're misunderstanding me. I think current Steam Engine is a better ability than the one with water immunity. Being able to proc WP + Steam Engine in one move is worth the weakness to water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 21:39:25 No.48763630 Report

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>>48762361

I understand why people don't like his design cuz he's not a natural evolution as a sort of train or minecart, but it's still a cool design in and of itself. Not a big fan of the gen1 eyes tho.

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Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 22:04:39 No.48763856 Report

Quoted By: >>48764384

>>48762913
not him, but not like it's got a pile of shit on its head? well maybe ya can make it more like a steam engine than coal, and make its ability coal related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Nov 2021 23:01:34 No.48764384 Report

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>>48763856
Well, it's a coal Pokemon and has burning coal on its head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Nov 2021 00:50:54 No.48765440 Report

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>>48763528
Still getting OHKO'd by any water move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Nov 2021 02:06:27 No.48766013 Report

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>ITT: Coalossal fan has never played doubles in their entire life
Smugpepe.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Nov 2021 03:45:40 No.48766695 Report

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>>48762361
Christ, I almost forgot this shitty design existed.

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