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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:33:37 No.48821310 View View Reply Original Report

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why are these games so fucking shitty and autistic about which pokemon you're "allowed" to use before postgame? who gives a shit if i want to use a ralts what difference does it make arghh

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:34:16 No.48821314 Report

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>>48821310
just play the remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:36:27 No.48821337 Report

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>>48821310
Low point in the series. Unova at least had all new pokemon instead of geodude and zubats all over and BW2 added a ton more pre-e4.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:39:16 No.48821358 Report

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>>48821314
>exaggerated Chibi babby graphics in overworld
>Forced Exp share
>Your Pokemon getting random crits and surviving moves from Amie
>Fairy type
No thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:40:52 No.48821375 Report

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>>48821337
There's a part of me that gets sick satisfaction from seeing people discover Gen 4 sucks all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:41:34 No.48821383 Report

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>>48821310
why are these games so fucking shitty and autistic about which pokemon you're "allowed" to use before postgame? who gives a shit if i want to use a togekiss or magnezone what difference does it make arghh

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:42:07 No.48821391 Report

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>>48821314
Hell no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:42:25 No.48821394 Report

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>>48821375
That's because people only remember Platinum when it comes to Sinnoh and forget what a shitshow DP were. Literally the most boring games to replay.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:42:35 No.48821396 Report

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>>48821383

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:43:37 No.48821403 Report

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>>48821310
Why would you play these instead of Platinum

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:44:09 No.48821410 Report

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>>48821337
so far i have a buneary (which isn't going to do shit without a soothe bell and a luxury ball and no i'm not cycling for 5 hours), a starter, a murkrow who can't evolve until i get the galactic hq stone, and it looks like a pikachu is next because i have no idea what else i can even use

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:47:59 No.48821449 Report

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>>48821396
You can get a Mamoswine (a Sinnoh Pokemon) in HGSS Johto before the Elite Four, but not in DP Sinnoh, in a region blanketed in snow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:48:05 No.48821450 Report

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>>48821310
The general idea is that limiting the players choices is good because it makes it easier to balance the games, which is totally true, and desu 150 isn’t even a terrible number, both gen 1 and 5 have that many and the variety is decent enough in both cases. The problem is not only does DP have god fucking awful type variety, but they ALSO dedicated a sizable chunk of the dex to rare encounters you could barely get. Honey trees, great marsh, fossilmons, backlot garden, feebas, spiritomb you name it. There’s nothing wrong with rare Pokémon but when you have such a small dex as it is it leaves so little left to spread around the massive region of sinnoh so fucking every route is filled with the same damn Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:48:47 No.48821458 Report

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>>48821394
Even Platinum sucked. Better than DP, sure, but you can only build so much on a broken foundation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:54:19 No.48821509 Report

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>>48821449
>region blanketed in snow
it’s just the tip, the region isn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:01:47 No.48821578 Report

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>>48821391
Fun fact, I got a Ralts literally as soon as I got the Explorer's Kit in the remakes. That's earlier than even Platinum let you get a Ralts.

So either play the remakes, which solves your problem, or quit your bitching.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:04:59 No.48821616 Report

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>>48821509
The Route.
The Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:05:15 No.48821619 Report

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>>48821578
>Can get ralts earlier at the expense of having to pay 60 dollars for an otherwise worse game
Not that anon but can’t blame him for saying hell no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:07:04 No.48821633 Report

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>>48821616
cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:10:13 No.48821668 Report

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>>48821616
Man I like sinnoh and even DP but fuck, could they fucking not still have us running into the machop and zubat lines STILL even here? I get why some Pokémon are post game only but goddamn would it have been nice AND fitting to have swinub here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:10:23 No.48821671 Report

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>>48821619
Then pirate it, or are you to self righteous or retarded to do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:10:49 No.48821672 Report

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>>48821633
>75% chance of not finding a Sinnoh Pokemon
>50% chance you won't even come across an Ice-type Pokemon... on a snowy route

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:12:20 No.48821687 Report

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>>48821375
You're either:
A) Genwunner/Gentwooer
B) Unovabitch
or
C) Average 3D Pokemon player
therefore, you would not like Gen 4, anyway, since you hate either that is not those three things mentioned above

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:12:46 No.48821691 Report

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why are people so obsessed with getting Ralts? this is one of those weird “Pokéwaifu/furry” things, isn’t it?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:12:49 No.48821692 Report

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>>48821310

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:13:27 No.48821697 Report

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just inject lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:14:17 No.48821708 Report

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>>48821310
Cry more faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:15:55 No.48821723 Report

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>>48821375
>>48821394
glad to see I’m not the only one. I always get bored as fuck playing Platinum while seeing everyone online constantly praise Platinum as amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:15:55 No.48821724 Report

Quoted By: >>48822014

>>48821619
>for an otherwise worse game
I don't see how it's worse, and I know you can't name how without mentioning the following:
>Chibis, subjective taste, not a flaw.
>Battle frontier, literally online for people too shit at pokemon to play online. Still has the battle tower which has been enhanced with tougher fights.
>EXP share, irrelevant unless you're catching pokemon in which case shove everyone but your catcher (for me it was budew with stun spore) into the box with the always-available box.
>The always available box (It doesn't heal your pokemon anymore when you put pokemon in there), an objective improvement
>Pokemon variety (BDSP have better variety pre-postgame than both DP and Pt, hands-down. I tried playing vanilla platinum and every route is just starly-bidoof-shinx-something else just like DP, fuck Platinum)
>Amie (It's nowhere near as bad as anyone makes it out to be, I'm at pastoria and I have yet to have it trigger once and I've had following pokemon on since I was able to get it)
>The game corner (All the important things yo ucan get from it are either in the wild or buyable in the veilstone department store, a far superior option to wasting time gambling, also international laws prevent it from being in the games)
>The difficulty (It's harder than DP or Pt with the rematches, and the base games of DPPT weren't hard to begin with. If you want actual challenge, play BDSP's rematch fights).

So go on, what's so bad about BDSP? Because I literally can't see myself going back to DPPT because they're slow, clunky, lack all the QoL stuff in BDSP, and most importantly lack the Grand Underground which is really the best damn thing the franchise has done since HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:17:15 No.48821730 Report

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I've noticed Sinnohfetuses nurse a raging obsession with Gen V/Unova, but if you look at it closely, it has nothing to do with Unova per se.

It's the same with their hatred for Kanto. They don't care about Kanto pandering, not the least of which reasons being it's blatantly hypocritical.

What they -do- care about very dearly is being seen as part of the "old guard" - the oldest, original set of Pokémon fans. To anyone who's actually played Diaper, the idea is laughable, but Unova has such easy targets for midwits that Sinnohfetuses can just say, "trashbag" and act as if they've won some argument no one was having.

Basically, Sinnohfetuses don't care about Unova, or Kanto, or even Sinnoh itself to an extent (I guarantee most Gen IV fanatics haven't played any of the DS games since their childhoods). What they're very, very insecure about is being seen as part of the "good" titles

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:17:55 No.48821742 Report

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>>48821672
>cold johto mountain with snowpeak
>only one ice type can be found, even with hoenn or sinnoh music playing

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:18:53 No.48821752 Report

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>>48821692
KWAB

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:23:40 No.48821802 Report

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>>48821692
nashbros....

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:24:40 No.48821810 Report

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>>48821310
For me, its the pikachu brother

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:37:41 No.48821909 Report

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>>48821450
BW's variety is pretty good, unless you are fishing or surfing around.
Fucking Basculin everywhere. They were aware of it as well so they gave them version exclusive forms to make them at least somewhat interesting.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:37:47 No.48821912 Report

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>>48821742
How can you compare Mt. Silver that didn't even have snow in the originals to Sinnoh? Sinnoh has Mt. Coronet (which is larger than Sinnoh) and two entire routes covered in snow, yet DP Sinnoh has only two Ice-type evolutionary lines until the postgame: Sneasel/Weavile and Snover/Abomasnow. The Ice-path in Johto (in Crystal at least) has Jynx, Sneasel, Swinub and Delibird. That's more than all of Sinnoh. Even Hoenn (based on subtropical Kyushu) and Alola (based on the tropical Hawaiian Islands) have more Ice-types. I don't know what Masuda was smoking, but I'm glad they added Snorunt and Swinub here in Platinum. Sapporo in Hokkaido literally hosts an annual snow festival

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:38:48 No.48821921 Report

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>>48821912
Sorry, I meant "which is larger than Mt. Silver."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:48:53 No.48822014 Report

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>>48821724
>Battle Frontier
Might as well go ahead and say playing Pokemon on cart/console is for people who are shit at Showdown.
>EXP share
>irrelevant because you can actively go out of your way to make the game clunkier to play while wasting time
?
>Amie
>it hasn't activated for me yet
Purely anecdotal evidence which makes it inherently biased on your part.
Also the bases fucking suck and I was hoping for them to be at least as good as ORAS despite knowing they'd probably downgrade to gen 4 bases.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 00:00:25 No.48822135 Report

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>>48821310
These ones were even worse. They blocked all the Gen 2 evolutions until you beat the game, and that's a big list with some good mons.
>Espeon
>Umbreon
>Crobat
>Blissey
>Bellossom
>Politoed
>Slowking
>Scizor
>Kingdra
>Porygon2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 00:08:54 No.48822201 Report

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>>48822135
The Kanto remakes are honestly some of the most baffling games in the franchise.
I don't know why they feel so inclined to recreate the overworld of a 1996 Gameboy game tile to tile.
FRLG blocks out cross gen evolutions, and Let's Go, on top of all the other Let's Goisms, outright removes cross gen evolutions and pre-evolutions, but gives you access to Mega evolutions and regional variants, on top of a completely new OC line.
I can't help but be left with the impression that Kanto has yet to be fully fleshed out beyond what the original games did despite appearing in so many games, and at this point I don't think it deserves any more chances.
Maybe there's a cool hack out there that does something more than just hack in regional variants and edit the encounter tables.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 00:13:26 No.48822243 Report

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>>48821912
Yea people are that the lack of fire types makes sense since it’s a cold region yet it technically has LESS ice types in DP. It’s extremely retarded

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 00:15:47 No.48822259 Report

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>>48822135
Kanto pandering is the entire reason they limited the Dex to 151, but I'd still argue that the DP dex is worse. Kanto has a lot of Poison and Water types, but it's still not as bad as Sinnoh where almost half the Pokemon in the dex are either Water, Normal, or Flying type.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 01:02:07 No.48822698 Report

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>>48821314
>>48821337
>>48821375
you have to be 18 to post here

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 02:12:46 No.48823367 Report

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>>48821394
your taste in games is a shitshow

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 03:13:36 No.48823993 Report

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I found ralts in the underground in the main game, i think after gym 7

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 03:15:39 No.48824016 Report

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>>48821310
fuck em

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 05:47:01 No.48825412 Report

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>>48823367
Nope. DP are just slow as fuck. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 06:20:17 No.48825698 Report

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>>48825412
Never got peoples problem with the surf speed. It doesn’t really make a substantial difference to how quickly you get through area since like 90% of the time it takes to get through routes consistently of of battling not movement. So even if the movement speed is slow as fuck it barely affects the actual length of time it takes to get places

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 06:29:11 No.48825772 Report

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>>48825698
You're fine with NPCs swimming faster than the main character surfs?

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