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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:43:09 No.48900841 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48900905 >>48900921 >>48901196 >>48901223 >>48901926 >>48901980 >>48902366

>23 years
>color variation, outside of shinies has never popped up since stadium
why? surely it isn't that hard of a feature to implent, especially when they're more than happy to cut whatever mons they want these days, don't they want players to enjoy their pokemon being more unique?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:47:38 No.48900889 Report

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Gamefreak doing something indepth? You must be smoking something bad my guy

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:49:06 No.48900905 Report

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>>48900841
SMARR INDIE STUDIO, PUREASE UNDAHSTANDO

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:50:59 No.48900921 Report

Quoted By: >>48900928 >>48900951

>>48900841
shinies are literally why they haven't

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:52:06 No.48900928 Report

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>>48900921
I wish they never invented shinies

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:54:03 No.48900951 Report

Quoted By: >>48900970 >>48901020

>>48900921
i mean yeah, that is true, having these weird alternate palettes were just shinies before shinies, but i think the two could've coexisted. no danger in someone having their charizard be slightly lighter or deeper hue or something compared to another charizard

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:55:21 No.48900970 Report

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>>48900951
>no danger in someone having their charizard be slightly lighter or deeper hue or something compared to another charizard
At least until the autists showed their true colors, things would be even worse than they are between Personalitytism, Naturetism, Balltism and Ribbontism.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:57:52 No.48900995 Report

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>>48900970
that is true. people would definitely be a lot more picky about what color mon they want when it comes to getting one, whether it be trade or otherwise.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 02:59:50 No.48901020 Report

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>>48900951
>no danger in someone having their charizard be slightly lighter or deeper hue or something compared to another charizard
The problem is that many of those variations are already shinies or were.

A solution to this would be different types of shinies, perhaps the less impactful ones would be lower rarity, common pigmentation differences seen in the wild.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:05:06 No.48901085 Report

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>>48901020
yes, thats what im saying, just give a (comparatively higher to shinies, obviously) chance for the mon to have its own unique palette - nothing too offensive, maybe its darker or lighter than the rest, in a world where this is the case, even having a standard one would be unique and more meaningful than all of them looking the same. no individuality leads to devaluing pokemon

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:11:21 No.48901160 Report

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>>48901085
This is technically already a thing, somewhat.
But it's not consistent, doesn't apply to every pokemon and the degree changes between each pokemon.

Stuff like spinda is extremely unique, while pokemon with variations like sinistea are also a thing.
It does seems like this is something they're more likely to do these days but the reason is not a wide spread thing is simply because gf is lazy/there's not enough time/it makes the process of updating the models every few years an even bigger of a task.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:12:23 No.48901170 Report

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>>48901160
yeah, it happens with a few pokemon but anyone who handles this IP is just too lazy to do anything fun i guess. interesting example, i've never seen this before..

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:14:49 No.48901196 Report

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>>48900841
This idea was turned into shinies.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:17:50 No.48901222 Report

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>>48901160
how hard can it be when a 20 year old pokemon spinoff game on ancient hardware was capable of doing it. why do people always make excuses for gamefreak

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:17:52 No.48901223 Report

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>>48900841

Play Polished Crystal

Pokemon have different color palettes and its especially cool when they make Magikarps pallettes different koi patterns.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 03:20:14 No.48901251 Report

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>>48901223
i already do, those features are sweet. there are patches that give you similar color palettes in platinum & hgss as well.
https://github.com/TheGag96/individual-color-variation/releases/tag/v1.1
https://github.com/TheGag96/individual-color-variation/releases/tag/hg_v1.0

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 04:37:02 No.48901926 Report

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>>48900841
Stadium was made by Nintendo EAD rather than Gamefreak. Given that shinies were originally officially called “alternate color Pokemon” or whatever that long-ass name they had in gen 3 was, I almost wonder if the Stadium function is what inspired gamefreak to make shinies in the first place. They probably didn’t want to do it exactly like Nintendo did so they can claim it’s their own special gimmick (and likely because it was simpler to just have 2 sprite color palettes for each Pokémon than several on the older handheld consoles)

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 04:43:59 No.48901980 Report

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>>48900841
Hue shifting?
Hoo boy, that's definitely too much for such a small indie company!

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:12:00 No.48902213 Report

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You guys are thinking about this wrong. It's not an issue of difficulty it's an issue of branding. TPC hates alternate colors because they're off model. It's the same reason you don't see pokemon with different hairstyles in the anime except in very, VERY rare cases (like that eevee a main character had.)

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:21:27 No.48902269 Report

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>>48902213
This.

They want the pokemon models to match the merchandise. Shinies are only still around cause they managed to be grandfathered in down each of the mainline games.

They stopped giving arbok regional patterns too, now it always has the kanto pattern on its hood to match merch.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:26:14 No.48902289 Report

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>>48902269
Shines are easy enough because you can just do two color schemes and sell double merchandise. But minor color variations are beyond the pale.

Remember Pokken? The P2 color schemes in that game made the Pokemon wear an arm band, made sure to show them change colors every match, and repeatedly said that it was only something happening on the screen instead of to the Pokemon itself, all so that you would never think the Pokemon was a different color. And the alt colors weren't the shinies because "shinies are special."

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:32:11 No.48902321 Report

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>>48901926
It was Rare, Color, Color Variation/Alt. Color, then Shining/Shiny. Color Variation was the longest name it's had, but Iro Chigai is pretty quick to say so the translation doesn't really matter.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:33:56 No.48902332 Report

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I'd do anything to get shiny Colosseum Voltorb back.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Dec 2021 05:39:16 No.48902366 Report

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>>48900841
It's such a fun idea, but I think there's a few reasons as to why they don't do it anymore. I think maybe it will make shiny hunters a little bit upset that alternate colors in general is not so rare anymore and anyone can get an alternate color and be satisfied. Even if you make more distinct colors the most rare, you'd have to consider shinies like Garchomp, Pichu, and Dewgong who already look barely any different. It may also be tough to sell merch of each color, though I know they have enough money to do it. It's also more of a Neopets gimmick, and though they do not care to copy from competition now, they might've cared a little bit in the past. Neopets is really old and practically killing itself with bad candies and NFTs, so I don't think they should worry about it anymore.

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