>>48917416>The devs themselves weren't taking it seriously eitherAh yes, the "the creators weren't serious, therefore it's okay to be shitty" argument. I can see why so many people like Clover, just let your standards be low enough and you can like anything.
Wonder why people don't use your absolutely flawless logic when discussing story in the main games or other romhacks.
>he 'chose' to make an entire team of idiots to distract and delay us because, outside hijacking Clovenix, he had no way to actually stop the playerHe had no way to stop the player back when they were some shitter fighting Brock in the first city? The Shadow Council say they were following you every step of your journey.
What stopped Vyglass from, even before you get your first Pokemon from Professor Stump, heading to Mt. Clover, grabbing Clovenix, and rewriting reality? You can't answer that.
>While I'm unsure of what Vyglass was trying to do exactly with ClovenixAre you illiterate?
>even the council members knew they could not and would not winBecause they let the player grow strong enough to conquer two regions and the Elite Four/Champion, waited all that time to do jack shit, then went to Mt. Clover and tried to resurrect Clovenix while the player was conveniently with Nomel who knew exactly what was going on when they infiltrated Mt. Clover.
I also love the implication that Vyglass went to the peak and was just staring at Clovenix for hours while you tore through the Council members throughout the mountain. It's like the plot just becomes more incoherent and retarded the more you look at it.
>It's like criticizing Giovanni because he didn't just shoot the playerExcept A. guns don't exist in the games, and B. Giovanni didn't know you were a thing until you marched into his office and kicked his ass. Vyglass and the Council members flat out say they knew who you were the minute you began your journey and planned everything. It's nonsense.