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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:14:56 No.49002726 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49002777 >>49003290 >>49004107 >>49004237 >>49004315 >>49004326 >>49005056 >>49005081

*adds rock climb for no reason*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:17:15 No.49002742 Report

Quoted By: >>49002755 >>49005069

HMs are good. Decoupling them from pokemon like lgpe and bdsp could be your preference, but they make the games exploration more rich I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:20:07 No.49002755 Report

Quoted By: >>49002775 >>49002893 >>49004315

>>49002742
>backtracking and clicking A in front of rocks to get useless shit makes the game's exploration more rich
I'm glad my standards aren't this low

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:24:15 No.49002769 Report

Quoted By: >>49002815 >>49002830

as much as i love hgss, everything they did to mt. silver and the red battle brings my piss to a boil

>rock climb
>hail
>red trying to capitalize on the hail with his epic blizzard snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:24:57 No.49002775 Report

Quoted By: >>49002786

>>49002755
I have a fun time seeing obvious HM spots like rock climb early on in the game and then, once I get rock climb, then rewarded for remembering where they were

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:25:02 No.49002777 Report

Quoted By: >>49002828 >>49002830 >>49002874

>>49002726
Because they have to check your HM privilege. God forbid you get a Shiny Stone and evolve your Togetic before you obtain sixteenth gym badge. People complain about Crobat and Blissey in FRLG but look over pointless restrictions in HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:25:39 No.49002782 Report

Quoted By: >>49002874

>HMs are bad because r/vp told me so
If trainer battles are piss easy, then there's no problem with sacrificing some move slots, you're steamrolling anyway right?
If all routes are hallways, then there's nothing wrong with HMs, because the route is unimpressive regardless.
What am I supposed to hate HMs for? They detract from nothing objectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:26:18 No.49002786 Report

Quoted By: >>49002803 >>49002805

>>49002775
yeah I love being rewarded with a shitty trade evo item for a single pokemon I'll never actually use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:28:28 No.49002803 Report

Quoted By: >>49002809

>>49002786
So if I don't care about the item then there's nothing wrong with HMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:28:35 No.49002805 Report

Quoted By: >>49002809

>>49002786
Yeah evo stones, TMs, and other items are great rewards for HMs. you get them naturally through the story so everyone can get them, but you have to remember where they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:29:32 No.49002809 Report

Quoted By: >>49002814 >>49002820

>>49002803
I don't know what the item is until I get it.

>>49002805
>Yeah evo stones, TMs, and other items are great rewards for HMs
That's not what rock climb is used for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:30:34 No.49002814 Report

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>>49002809
>I don't know what the item is until I get it.
Of course I do, I googled it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:30:40 No.49002815 Report

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>>49002769
The change in location was cool because it makes the battle more climactic but yeah the hail weather could've fucked off, they could've easily just had it be snowfall and not had it trigger in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:32:16 No.49002820 Report

Quoted By: >>49002838

>>49002809
I was just responding to what anon was saying. I think it is still good as an exploration vehicle. Mastery over the terrain by climbing up a mountain might feel better than just walking forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:33:49 No.49002828 Report

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>>49002777
Because HGSS still gives you access to some other post-gen2 evos. Also, at least HGSS’s restrictions make since with in-universe. FRLG just doesn’t let them evolve for some unknown reason, and just to ad insult they play that evolution animation just to cocktease you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:34:12 No.49002830 Report

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>>49002769
I didnt mind the hail but they got rid of his espeon for some reason. A level 80+ espeon with decent coverage would be scary if you were only in the low 60s.
>>49002777
You can get a shiny stone from the pokathlon but I still think its only after the e4. You also couldnt use magnezone, leafeon or glaceon at all unless you traded them to sinnoh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:35:08 No.49002838 Report

Quoted By: >>49002850 >>49002862

>>49002820
>Mastery over the terrain by climbing up a mountain
you didn't master anything though. You carried an extra shitmon on your team and pressed A in front of a rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:36:26 No.49002850 Report

Quoted By: >>49002857

>>49002838
You can be reductive like that about anything in video games. at the end of the day, I can like it and you can not and that's okay. I hope I made my point of view clear, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:37:11 No.49002857 Report

Quoted By: >>49002864

>>49002850
>You can be reductive like that about anything in video games
No, I actually can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:38:16 No.49002862 Report

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>>49002838
So you're saying HMs should be improved? Now that you mention it, HMs should have a level requirement, toughen up your pokemon to be able to climb the mountain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:38:20 No.49002864 Report

Quoted By: >>49002877

>>49002857
isn't everything in video games pushing buttons on a controller?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:40:36 No.49002874 Report

Quoted By: >>49002889 >>49002979

>>49002777
nice trips but are you thinking of another evolution method? because yeah see pic related
>>49002782
learn how to separate arguments, shill. hgss isn't the new games (which i'm glad the new ones finally removed em but it should've happened sooner) also there's literally 8 of them and it just discourages team building.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:41:11 No.49002877 Report

Quoted By: >>49002883

>>49002864
Well designed video games require thought other than pushing buttons on a controller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:42:02 No.49002883 Report

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>>49002877
that's true

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:43:04 No.49002889 Report

Quoted By: >>49002982

>>49002874
>also there's literally 8 of them and it just discourages team building.
But r/vp told me you're only supposed to be playing pokemon games with an overleveled starter.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:44:06 No.49002893 Report

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>>49002755
M..me like hallway

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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:56:45 No.49002979 Report

Quoted By: >>49002990 >>49003004 >>49004987

>>49002874
>nice trips but are you thinking of another evolution method? because yeah see pic related
No. I mean what I wrote. You need Rock Climb to get the Shiny Stone that's in National Park.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:57:09 No.49002982 Report

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>>49002889
no one believes this except yawnfag and the retards who follow him. stop being stupid on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:57:44 No.49002990 Report

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>>49002979
cute kirlia

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 06:59:34 No.49003004 Report

Quoted By: >>49003066

>>49002979
oh that makes sense. it says you can get it from the bug contest too though. did they really just change the prizes after you fight blue? kinda weird if so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 07:07:56 No.49003066 Report

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>>49003004
>did they really just change the prizes after you fight blue? kinda weird if so.
Technically the prizes change once you get the National Dex, so that means that prizes change once you beat Lance, board the SS Aqua and obtain the National Dex from Oak. That means that theoretically once you deliver the Machine Part and give the Copycat her Clefairy Doll you can board the Magnet Train back to Johto and then grind the Pokeathlon or Bug Catching Contest to get a shiny Stone, but that would be intentionally interrupting the normal gameplay IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 07:44:33 No.49003290 Report

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>>49002726
blame dppt for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 10:19:34 No.49004028 Report

Quoted By: >>49004424

>remake doesn't add new stuff
REEEEEE THIS IS JUST AH HD REMASTER NOT A REMAKE
>remake adds new stuff
REEEEE WHY DID THEY ADD THIS FOR NO REASON
>game doesn't have much postgame content
REEEEEEEE THERE'S NO POSTGAME
>game has postgame content
REEEEEEE WHY IS ALL THIS STUFF LOCKED BEHIND THE POSTGAME
>have to wait a few years between main games
REEEEEE WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG ANNOUNCE THE RELEASE DATE ALREADY
>new game every year
REEEEEEE THESE SUCK WHY DON'T THEY PUT MORE EFFORT INTO GAMES ANYMORE
You guys are insufferable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 10:48:15 No.49004107 Report

Quoted By:

>>49002726
>adds new explorable areas in every dungeon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 11:23:53 No.49004237 Report

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>>49002726
Glad HMs are gone

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Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 11:39:50 No.49004315 Report

Quoted By: >>49006049

>>49002726
>>49002755
>optional, postgame area
>NOOO MY ADVENTURE IS RUINED

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 11:41:31 No.49004326 Report

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>>49002726
It wasn't needed in a playthrough at least.
The only change I really disliked was that you need to go fight Ho-oh or Lugia in the remakes instead of them being optional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 12:02:46 No.49004424 Report

Quoted By:

>>49004028
Most of these aren't mutual exclusive. Have a (you) tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 14:18:14 No.49004987 Report

Quoted By:

>>49002979
How come I can't click the spoiler here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 14:36:21 No.49005056 Report

Quoted By:

>>49002726
Best pokemon games but I still hate hms

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 14:38:53 No.49005069 Report

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>>49002742
>but they make the games exploration more rich I think.
In gen 1-6 yes but after that kinda nope. I mean hm's were mostly there as shortcuts but for a price of a move. In bdsp I always feel like, yeah why did they copy it 1:1 when I can just get the quickiest path thanks to always hm. Actually I can know see why they make some routes in the newer games extremly linear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 14:40:11 No.49005081 Report

Quoted By: >>49005868

>>49002726
Yeah fuck HMs. Fuck puzzle and exploration in Pokémon and fuck it in Zelda too. Why setting torches on fire when you can make an empty room to run through. Why collecting small keys when you can just open any door without a key. Why use HMs instead of making everything a straight corridor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 16:44:31 No.49005868 Report

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>>49005081
How dull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Dec 2021 17:07:16 No.49006049 Report

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>>49004315
>shitty boring map design
>game is lower quality
Yes.

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