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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:56:20 No.49030154 View View Reply Original Report

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Graphicsdon'tmatter sisters, the DDLC man is bullying us!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:02:43 No.49030181 Report

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>>49030154
a better question is why gf can't hire more people to work on, at least, their main games

they have no excuse for how shoddy swsh was

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:03:33 No.49030185 Report

Quoted By: >>49030482

Why's he acting so high and mighty when his only claim to fame is a shitty horror game ripping off Undertale 4th wall mechanics that only appeals to coomers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:03:56 No.49030186 Report

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>>49030154
I don't know why people are bitching so much about graphics. I'm tired of every game needing to be hyper realistic. Why does everyone want to play a game in the real world?

Let me play in my shitty cartoon sandbox so I can escape reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:06:52 No.49030198 Report

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>>49030186
Seriously. Realism doesn't suit Pokemon in the first place. Good designs, game mechanics and writing are way more important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:07:34 No.49030199 Report

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>>49030186
>having good stylized textures, shaders and models == hyper realistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:07:44 No.49030200 Report

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>>49030198
>Good designs
See SwSh
>writing
See XY, SM, USUM, and SwSh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:08:51 No.49030207 Report

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Because 90% of the revenue gets funelled into making more merch, paying for advertisements, making the anime and specials, making spin-offs and paying YouTube and 4chan shills

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:08:58 No.49030208 Report

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>>49030186
>hyper realistic
People don't want realistic graphics, people obviously want something cel shaded and stylized. Considering the era and presentation in the trailers you'd have thought they'd go for something similar to Okami or even Wink Waker for fucks sake. Let's Go are probably the best looking games on the Switch simply by virtue of having a consistent artstyle across both it's characters and environments.
Realistic graphics would look awful in Pokemon.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:11:40 No.49030222 Report

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>>49030154
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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:18:40 No.49030247 Report

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>>49030208
>Game has an obvious stylistic choice
>NO NOT THAT ONE THIS ONES BETTER BECAUSE ITS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE ASSET LIBRARY
I fucking hate faggots sometimes

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:20:00 No.49030253 Report

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It's not like it's the worst-looking game on Switch, it's pretty irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:20:19 No.49030256 Report

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>>49030247
Looking like raw 3d is stylistic now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:21:37 No.49030262 Report

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>>49030247
>Game has an obvious stylistic choice
>Anime characters and animals on realistic environments
What fucking art style? 3D Pokemon has been devoid of one after Let's Go. BDSP has been the closest thing to an "art style" since and that's only due to it emulating the DS' graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:23:11 No.49030268 Report

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>>49030262
And considering how the logo and such is painted/drawn in on the trailers, an Okami-esque style would more than fit. At the very least it'd be a hell of a lot more interesting to look at. God forbid we get great Pokemon games instead of decent ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:28:14 No.49030283 Report

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>>49030181
they literally said they want to keep the small, indie studio feel
the meme is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:34:02 No.49030297 Report

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>>49030186
Honestly I'd like them to go back to 2d because that's clearly what they're better at. They could do animations with 2d parts like in BW but using vector art so the sprites don't get pixelated when zooming in and out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:43:39 No.49030329 Report

Quoted By: >>49030345 >>49030364

>>49030262
>I choose not to see the art style
What exactly do you want me to do with this, anon? You're not making an argument, so there's nothing for me to work with here. I can't exactly point at the obvious thing and go "There you go" if all you're gonna do is respond by pretending it's not there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:48:50 No.49030345 Report

Quoted By: >>49030357

>>49030329
There's literally nothing there you blind fool. Look at the rest of the industry before you try to tell me Legends has any semblance of style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:51:21 No.49030357 Report

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>>49030345
Yeah see, there you go again. It's kind of hard to hold a conversation with someone who uses a false pretense as the basis for their argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:51:55 No.49030361 Report

Quoted By: >>49030386 >>49030429

>>49030268
>God forbid we get great Pokemon games instead of decent ones.
How would graphics fix the myriad of design issues in modern Pokemon gamee? How would graphics stop Gamefreak from removing features each gen such as the GTS and PSS? This is why graphics whores should keep their mouths shut. They never look at the underlying issues of a game and are willing to give it a pass as long as it looks pretty. If you want to stare at pretty shit all day, then go to an art museum because graphics whore do not contribute to wanting Pokemon to be better. In fact, you're a detriment because the message you send to Gamefreak is.
>Nevermind that you remove PSS, GTS, hard, remove Battle Frontier from remakes. The game's bad because graphics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:53:04 No.49030363 Report

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>I want a movie not a game
>all those old games with shitty graphics that you enjoyed are bad games because they're not movies and you didn't actually enjoy them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:53:13 No.49030364 Report

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>>49030329
The characters and Pokemon are stylized as anime-like with cel shading, but how is the environment stylized? Aside from the skybox and that bright green tree in the left OP pic, which do fit the anime style of the characters and look nice, the environment just seems to be stock photorealistic textures and normals but really low res.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:53:36 No.49030369 Report

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>>49030181
More people and money =/= Better games.
The more hands are involved in project, the less consistent and clear the idea is and the more managing power you need so you need to hire more crap like managers and shits that are not involved in actual work.
It would be actually good for GF higher-ups to give people working on Pokemon idea that yeah, they still need try and put some pressure on them - a lot of good project was finished when people working on them was put on the edge and were actually fighting to stay afloat.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:55:23 No.49030378 Report

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>>49030154
Because they're cheap and (You) will buy it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:57:57 No.49030386 Report

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>>49030361
>How would graphics fix the myriad of design issues in modern Pokemon gamee?
It would stop actively trying to murder my eyes just by looking at it, for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:00:04 No.49030393 Report

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>>49030199
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:05:53 No.49030413 Report

Quoted By: >>49030427 >>49030449

>>49030364
I really don't know what you want pointed out to you that something as simple as OP's pic won't already show you. People are hunt up on a seeming clash of aesthetic but ignore that it's still an intentional design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:06:02 No.49030414 Report

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>>49030186
>>49030198
There's nothing wrong with realism, but when people start demanding it for EVERY game, or really any other thing (like 3D), trying to make every game follow a trend, then it becomes a fucking problem.

I've seen people praising RDR2 because horse balls shrink in colder places (seriously, google the articles). Now THAT'S what makes a game, right boyos?
I've seen people get excited over teaser trailers that show ZERO gameplay, just because of "muh realistic grafix".
I've seen people completely reject games and refuse to consider them just because they're 2D.

A game being fun is no longer the metric by which to measure its quality; it's how much it resembles reality.
You want realism so bad? GO OUTSIDE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:08:54 No.49030427 Report

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>>49030413
Intentional or not, some stuff being stylized with bright colors and cel shading and other stuff being desaturated low res PBR looks weird and bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:09:16 No.49030429 Report

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>>49030361
Yes because graphics are the only short fall. Obviously this applies to the grander scheme of things you small minded child who's too young to be here if he can't fill in the blanks for himself. But we're not talking about remakes right now or online features, we're talking about PLA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:11:39 No.49030437 Report

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>>49030427
And that's a valid complaint. It's not one I share but it's one I can understand people having. It's not like the retards who complain that there's no stylistic design happening with the intentional shader usage and consistent but clashing aesthetic they've chosen.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:11:55 No.49030438 Report

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just make the grass more yellow and up the contrast

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:14:17 No.49030449 Report

Quoted By: >>49030457

>>49030413
The removal of the PSS from Gen 7 in favour of Festival Plaza was also intentional.
Removing following Pokemon from post-HGSS games was intentional.
Removing customization and heavily limiting it in BDSP was intentional.
Removing the mere toggleable option to keep the EXP Share on or off was intentional.
Point is Game Freak make a lot of "intentional" choices. Doesn't make em good.
When you say stuff like that it makes you sound like a boot licker who'll just accept whatever GF provides. If you're satisfied, that's fine, but some of us play games outside of Nintendo/Pokemon and have higher standards than this. I want this series to reach it's full potential, not languish and sell on brand recognition alone, even if it's a futile dream.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:15:49 No.49030453 Report

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>>49030438
It's insane how much better it looks with one tiny change, now if only the models weren't so shiny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:17:49 No.49030457 Report

Quoted By: >>49030472

>>49030449
I never said it was good, I said it's a choice and it exists. Denying it exists because it looks bad isn't an argument, it's being autistic. The number one citation people make when saying the game looks bad is its lack of stylization, which is a bullshit argument because there is one. Just complain about the low res testures or how you don't like the style, don't pretend it doesn't fucking exist because you just come off as disingenuous.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:18:06 No.49030459 Report

Quoted By: >>49030474

why is a shovelware studio taking care of the main products of the biggest media franchise ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:19:28 No.49030466 Report

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>>49030437
>consistent
It's quite literally not. I. 3. You have cartoon grass and realistic bark textures all at once.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:21:44 No.49030472 Report

Quoted By: >>49030494

>>49030457
Then by all means define this so called style, at least say how it's stylized? Point out where the stylization is?
There's nothing there and you know it which is why you can't call attention to anything, point out how it's stylized or refute any of these arguments people have put forth. People can't recognize an art style because there isn't one and it's clear as day. Enjoy the game, I'm not taking that from you. And yes, it's an intentional choice for the graphics, but that doesn't magically make it an art style.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:22:21 No.49030474 Report

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>>49030459
because they created it

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:25:02 No.49030482 Report

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>>49030185
why are you acting so high and mighty posting on a chinese rice farming forum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:27:42 No.49030494 Report

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>>49030472
>Ignores my examples
>Demands examples
Anon, you're not here for a discussion you're here to bitch about the thing you don't like. At least try to pretend if you're going to be combative about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:35:19 No.49030526 Report

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>>49030154
Based

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:38:22 No.49030534 Report

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>>49030438
this, they should do the ILCA effect after the first trailer of BDSP.

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