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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 02:51:27 No.49166291 View View Reply Original Report

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Did it even stood a chance?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 02:55:45 No.49166310 Report

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>>49166291
In Japan, yes. Globally, probably not.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 02:59:23 No.49166332 Report

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>>49166291
It did until they alienated their audience with YW3's american theme.
It's a damn shame because that game has probably the highest amount of content in any JRPG i've played.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:00:45 No.49166343 Report

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>>49166332
It's a shame they didn't like it as much as 2 because 3 fuckin rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:03:32 No.49166358 Report

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It genuinely did until the creator whatever his name was decided to completely reboot it and have it lose all identity barely into its 5th year of existence

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:14:41 No.49166429 Report

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>>49166291
Yo-Kai didn't fail because of Pokemon, it failed because it oversaturated itself too quickly. There were too many games and too much merchandise hitting the market all at once.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:27:18 No.49166483 Report

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>>49166291
Did this die with the 3ds or something?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:30:56 No.49166498 Report

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>>49166483

It died with the 3DS, but it was already fading fast. It took off in Japan in 2014, stayed strong in 2015 and the first half of 2016, but its anime ratings, toy sales, game sales, everything started to nosedive in Japan in the second half of 2016, and it has never pulled out of that tailspin, it's only been getting worse and worse, and it's practically dead now. YW4 on the Switch was a complete flop in Japan.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:34:30 No.49166525 Report

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>>49166498
Ah, so it sounds like that boost Pokemon got from Go and SM in 2016 blunted its popularity

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:35:07 No.49166529 Report

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>tfw your yokai-themed monster collecting franchise is losing steam and you turn it into a high school slice-of-life/super sentai show about evil dog aliens attacking earth

It's fucking insane to me just how little confidence they had in Yokai Watch that THIS was what they thought could save it.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:37:01 No.49166534 Report

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>>49166332
To be fair they alienated their audience with 3 because most of the 'Merican Yo-Kai fucking sucked.
Instead of showing off NA-adjacent myths like Paul Bunyan and Babe, Bigfoot, Mothman, Chupcabra, Jersey Devil (no, Little Charmer doesn't count), etc, they did the lowest common denominator "ITS AMERICAN SO WE GOTTA HAVE A BBQ YOKAI, AND FAT GUY YOKAI, AND BURGER YOKAI!". This isn't even accounting for the ones that were entirely based around lame Japanese-to-English wordplay like Oh Wheel and Speedemountain.
Yokai Watch 3 is like if almost every Yokai from the first two games were Samurai, Sushi, and Rice Balls, and it sucks, because the lame ones drown out the genuinely well designed shit like the Treasure Legends, El Gutso, Last Nyanmurai, Whyvern King, The Gods of Fortune, etc.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:37:09 No.49166535 Report

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>>49166529
Also, there ARE characters who are yokai in this, but their role in the story is shockingly minor at best.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:38:44 No.49166539 Report

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>>49166529
wtf is this did humans and yokai suddenly breed

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:45:00 No.49166564 Report

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>>49166291
No.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:45:01 No.49166565 Report

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>>49166529
>>49166332
>>49166358
These are all partially correct. You could tell Level-5 was fucking terrified that Yo-Kai Watch was going to be a passing fad and milked it as hard as humanly possible from the very beginning. So it fell into "we're running out of ideas to stay relevant" territory at the fastest rate I've ever seen a franchise fall into it.

Like there's something called "Yo-kai Watch Shadow Side", which is a reboot/sequel about the old main character's kids. Most of the old Yo-kai have complete re-designs and the whole thing leads a bit more heavily into horror than the original. That sounds like the kind of thing you'd do with a 5-6 year old franchise that's already out of steam and needs to breath new life into itself, right? The franchise was only 3 years old when the concept was introduced.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:46:58 No.49166581 Report

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>>49166291
It could have stuck around fairly well in Japan if they didn't milk it to death so fast and hard, but in the end I feel Pokémon would have caught back up either way. Worldwide? Hell no, it's way too specific to Japan to have been more than a moderate success.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:48:56 No.49166591 Report

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>>49166529
If not for Whisper, I would have had no idea this was Yo-kai Watch. What the hell is this?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:53:51 No.49166625 Report

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>>49166591
>What the hell is this?

Pure unfiltered garbage. They took their yōkai, turned them into humans and filled it to the brim with fart and nudity jokes. It's honestly one of the trashiest and most low brow animes I've seen in years, and being that it's Japan, that is really saying something.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 03:56:59 No.49166643 Report

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>>49166625
>fart and nudity jokes
Didn't they had that already?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:22:22 No.49166765 Report

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>>49166529
Believe it or not. There's a chance we're actually getting that game to revive the franchise in the west. Whether YW4 actually comes with it is yet to be seen.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:24:39 No.49166776 Report

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>>49166291
>stood
stand

it's 'stand', esl-kun

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:28:26 No.49166792 Report

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>>49166564
Fuck you those guys are cool.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:33:27 No.49166812 Report

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>>49166291
Remember 2019 when everyone on /v/ and YouTube swore up and down that this absolute massive flop would beat Sword and Shield?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:36:05 No.49166824 Report

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I can’t believe people honestly thought this was going to make GameFreak step up their game

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:40:59 No.49166840 Report

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>>49166812

/v/ shitposters have been trying for years.

>Yo-kai Watch will kill Pokémon
>Temtem will kill Pokémon
>Monster Hunter Stories 2 will kill Pokémon

Two more weeks until Pokémon is destroyed and Game Freak files for bankruptcy.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 04:49:44 No.49166881 Report

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>>49166291
In Japan for a year or two, it did

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 09:52:26 No.49167970 Report

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I'm still waiting for Level-5 to localize Yo-Kai Watch 4....

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:44:32 No.49168743 Report

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>>49166840
Pokemon legends arceus will cement pokkemon domination
Not even axie infinity a Pokemon NFT stands a chance against Pokemon.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:48:44 No.49168766 Report

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>>49166529
Did they not see how digimon frontier went down to know this is a TERRIBLE idea

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:51:58 No.49168783 Report

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>>49166824
Still looks better than any 3D game gf shat out.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:52:51 No.49168786 Report

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>>49166824
Yokai watch did influence pokemon though, its the reason rotom dex existed and why so many mons are more round and "cute" than fierce and complex

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:54:01 No.49168794 Report

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>>49166534
Honestly if they really turned yokai watch into kid friendly smt I think it would've taken off.
Kids love monsters and mythology.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:56:20 No.49168812 Report

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>>49168786
The things Pokemon "borrowed" from Yo-Kai Watch are so superficial that they could be written off as pure coincidence.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 13:57:46 No.49168823 Report

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>>49168794
They tried that too, was probably their most succesful attempt after YW3

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:00:14 No.49168835 Report

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>>49168812
I could say the same thing about digimon to pokemon, but most people on this board would pitch a fit.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:01:43 No.49168844 Report

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>>49168823
Yeah but I meant like how smt borrows incorporates all kinds of characters and creatures from religion myth and folklore from around the world.
They could've had Nate move around the world and meet new yokai unique to that part of the world.
It doesn't need to be edgy either, the devil summoner suberies is Saturday morning cartoon tier.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:03:04 No.49168854 Report

Quoted By: >>49168956

>>49166291
>Did it even stood a chance?
YW made TCPi shit themselves so hard that they canceled Z, rushed the fuck out of Alola to have it on time for the 20 anniversary, created Z-Moves to rip-off YW super moves, ripped off Whisper with the Rotomdex, and overall even ripped off the "comfy community atmosphere" with Alola as a whole.
YW declined tremendously afterwards, but the effects it had on Pokemon are felt to this day.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:03:39 No.49168855 Report

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>>49168812
Cope

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:06:00 No.49168869 Report

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>>49166291
Genuinely my favorite series. Amazing gameplay, fuck tons of content, good graphics for 3DS, good music, fun story. It's a shame it didn't take off as well as it should have.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:09:22 No.49168889 Report

Quoted By: >>49168957

Yknow, I've been thinking
Since Bandai makes toys for literally every monster collecting series under the sun (Pokemon, Digimon, Monster Rancher, Medabots, SMT, Youkai Watch,Dragon Quest Monsters), cant they do something like Super Robot Wars with mon franchises? SRW also basically exists because bandai has a ton of mech toy rights

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:13:40 No.49168918 Report

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>>49166332
> over 100+ hours in Boney spirits
>Then Iearned I barrely touched main story

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:17:39 No.49168956 Report

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>>49168854
>all this headcanon

TPCi wasn't afraid of Yo-Kai Watch, that's just how competition works. If your competition is doing something that's working well for them, you copy it, but just change it just enough that it can't be called a ripoff.

And all of that stuff you described is so generic anyway that it can't be considered ripping off YKW, because YKW didn't invent any of it.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:17:41 No.49168957 Report

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>>49168889
>GF allowing Pokemon in a crossover
Veeeeeeeeeeery slim chances.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:19:43 No.49168968 Report

Quoted By: >>49168998

>>49166291
Didn't stand a chance globally because the watch toy would never sell outside Japan. That kind of kamen rider belt toy that makes noises only has huge marketability with japanese kids, its too lame for american kids. The watch toys and their medals were as big a part of the franchise as the videogame, and the medals would unlock items ingame. But again, that stuff would never take off outside Japan.

As for the game series though, it could've been moderately popular and a mainstay franchise that got all its mainline titles localized. Unfortunatly Japan fucked it all up with everything surrounding 4, so no more Yo-kai games.

>>49166534
Merican Yo-kai do mostly suck. I can't imagine what they were thinking. Like having a few goofy joke retards is perfectly fine, the stupid burger on his own would be fine, but there's a burger guy and a barbeque guy and a steak guy. And they're all retarded joke designs, there's almost no cool guys mixed in like the japanese yo-kai have Chansin, Benkei, etc. There's about the same amount of waifus, maybe more, but they're not a big deal for kids. I'd love to see a write up on the actual thought process behind 3's designs, why they thought they should focus entirely on language jokes like "This japanese phrase meaning 'I don't really mind' sounds like the english words 'My Car', so we'll make a car yo-kai that doesn't really mind." And there's like 100 yo-kai that are just that.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:21:17 No.49168979 Report

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>>49166291
Never had one

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:23:12 No.49168988 Report

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>>49168956
Are you actually braindead, is it better to say they "took inspiration" then. It gets across the same thing, pokemon Was influenced as a result of yokai watchs success. Having a talking ghost companion that uses an ipad is not generic btw, show me any other example of something that did exactly that before yokai watch

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:23:53 No.49168992 Report

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>>49168835
Weakass ver. 2, ver. 6 is for true gamers

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:24:33 No.49168998 Report

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>>49168968
There is merican waifus like Krystal Fox and Pettycake

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:28:26 No.49169022 Report

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>>49166291
No, Pokemon fans repel anything that has any sort of effort put into it

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 14:42:25 No.49169104 Report

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>>49166291
Only Bakugan ever stood a chance globally against Pokemon but it got sabotaged by being overreliant on the toy merchandise instead of focusing more on virtual games like Pokemon, which also hurt the Bakugan anime since they eventually ran out of "toys" to adapt instead of doing it like Pokemon where they sell new regional "lore". Bakugan had the potential to still be going if it had based itself on a manga or sth not so overly tied to the plastic stuff but more on the awesome characters and lore that Bakugan had

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 15:01:43 No.49169195 Report

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>>49169022
YW4's problem was gameplay, not grafix

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 15:04:49 No.49169213 Report

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>>49169022

>Effort

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 15:07:46 No.49169233 Report

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>>49169195
YW problem is that it doesn't have Pokemon in it, people want to consoom the newest thing about their favorite brand
>>49169213
>More ambitious game is bound to have some problem
Nevermind then, shall i post all those SWSH and BDSP hilarious webms?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jan 2022 15:08:36 No.49169239 Report

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>>49166332
Oh I'm actually hunting for 3 I had so much fun with bony like playing game only b rank lower heartful yokai good challenge

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