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No natures

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:12:16 No.49215076 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49215091 >>49215112 >>49215126 >>49215516 >>49215959 >>49217879 >>49217901 >>49218669 >>49218777 >>49220315 >>49220326 >>49220335

No more proud of it's power mons.
I won't miss the stat boosts but I did like the flavor text.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:14:09 No.49215091 Report

Quoted By: >>49215250 >>49220265

>>49215076
I'm not getting the game but I never cared for natures. Just the stats changes. I would like to see natures fleshed out in other ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:16:57 No.49215112 Report

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>>49215076
>original partner
hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:17:55 No.49215118 Report

Quoted By: >>49215127 >>49215290 >>49216007 >>49219069

Natures piss me off in any game that has them, but also if they do I have to autistically get a (somewhat) beneficial one for whoever I want to use. It's always refreshing going back to gens I-II and just being able to catch whatever. No abilities is a bit of a pain, for a lot of pokemon it's make or break based on what they have, e.g. Diggersby, Azumarill, Clefable, etc.

Seems odd that an inherent ability that a pokemon can just do would be absent here, I get that maybe natures aren't in because people at this point don't 'understand' pokemon as well. We shall have to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:19:27 No.49215126 Report

Quoted By: >>49215295

>>49215076
Any indication as to what those lantern pokeball looking things by the moves mean? Scrolls? That function as tms you only get one of but can move it around or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:19:29 No.49215127 Report

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>>49215118
Yes looking for a good nature or even a neutral nature can be a real pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:34:15 No.49215250 Report

Quoted By: >>49215327 >>49220265

>>49215091
I wish they would do this. Extra animations or expressions would go a long way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:38:36 No.49215290 Report

Quoted By: >>49215326 >>49220288

>>49215118
Thank god I'm not autistic like you. The MVP of my latest Nuzlocke was a Modest Machamp. Had a lot of fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:39:03 No.49215295 Report

Quoted By: >>49215306 >>49215421

>No more proud of it's power mons.
That's an IV thing

>>49215126
Those indicate it has a Style, the regional gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:40:25 No.49215306 Report

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>>49215295
You mean the old Sinnoh gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:42:55 No.49215326 Report

Quoted By: >>49219164

>>49215290
Fucking tell me about it. Oh, that shiny Misdreavus is Relaxed? Into the box you go!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:43:12 No.49215327 Report

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>>49215250
Yes. They have been leaning into the amie stuff since gen 6. Flesh out the monsters further in these mini games. Have a separate approach for battling. We'll see what its like in this new game but battling has forever been slooooow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 20:54:53 No.49215421 Report

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>>49215295
>That's an IV thing
True, IV's and EV's will be gone too then I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 21:06:52 No.49215516 Report

Quoted By: >>49217949 >>49218011 >>49218701

>>49215076
Are there held items?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 21:16:43 No.49215590 Report

Quoted By: >>49215662 >>49220274

So without natures, abilities or items, which Pokemon will a) still be viable, and b) potentially be made better, or have previous counters removed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 21:26:00 No.49215662 Report

Quoted By: >>49215682 >>49215923 >>49217792

>>49215590
There is no PvP, only trading. We don't know if there will even be a battle tower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 21:28:48 No.49215682 Report

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>>49215662
Seems, uh, stupid as fuck, is that confirmed?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 22:00:53 No.49215908 Report

Quoted By: >>49215944 >>49218815 >>49220197 >>49220336

>>49215682
https://press.pokemon.com/en/releases/POKEMON-REVEALS-MORE-DETAILS-FOR-POKEMON-BRILLIANT-DIAMOND-POKEMON-SHI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 22:02:26 No.49215923 Report

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>>49215662
>We don't know if there will even be a battle tower.
umm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 22:04:40 No.49215944 Report

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>>49215908
so there’s no actual reason to get this shovelware over swsh? good to know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 22:06:05 No.49215959 Report

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>>49215076
really like those icons for the Pokemon, reminds me of Colo/Battle Revolution

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 22:11:18 No.49216007 Report

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>>49215118
Yeah, it honestly gives me some terrible OCD when I have a starter I know will be shit. If I'm doing a replay of BW and I want to roll with Snivy, I gotta have it Adamant or at least nuetral if the thing isn't getting boxed.

I'd like natures better if they affacted Pokemon with clearly oriented stats in specific manners. Pokemon should have personalities, but having to meta them is annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:37:32 No.49217792 Report

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>>49215662
They're probably gonna go with extra boss battles or something like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:51:57 No.49217879 Report

Quoted By: >>49220301 >>49220310

>>49215076
Man, I just wish they had really gone all out with the traditional Japanese theme. They just used the same digital PC-esque design, threw in a Rotom-phone, and basically wasted the original and creative setting to make it look like any other Pokémon game, but the player wears a kimono now and has a Pokéball that blows steam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:54:09 No.49217901 Report

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>>49215076

maybe it has a neutral one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:55:20 No.49217909 Report

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If the game is compatible with Home then they will have natures, just can't see them on PLA. Kinda like how gen 1 mons had held items when transferred to gen 2 but you wouldn't know until you did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:56:03 No.49217917 Report

Quoted By: >>49217973

>>49215421
Based on OP's pic it looks like there is some kind of EV thing right of the stats and you can see the progress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:57:36 No.49217935 Report

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Isn't this mainly about just catching pokemon and filling the pokedex? I guess all that other stuff doesn't matter as much in this instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 01:59:21 No.49217949 Report

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>>49215516
I believe not. When you catch something it can hold herbs or other crafting material but there has been no sign of battle items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 02:02:02 No.49217973 Report

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>>49217917
Instead of EVs you get those stat candies. Which is just EVs but more visible, so I guess it's not a big change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 02:06:39 No.49218011 Report

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>>49215516
It would probably say "Held Item" somewhere on the screen if that were the case. Looks like many elements were removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 03:47:40 No.49218669 Report

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>>49215076
>Pasture
are we gonna be able to put down pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 03:51:57 No.49218701 Report

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>>49215516
No. Pokemon are too retarded to use them at this point in time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 04:06:01 No.49218777 Report

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>>49215076
>original partner instead of OT
soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 04:10:42 No.49218815 Report

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>>49215908
Makes sense,
I see them going the route of letting you transfer mons into the future and present games a la the Time Capsule in GSC

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:03:36 No.49219069 Report

Quoted By: >>49220229 >>49220270

>>49215118
>Azumarill

What's the point of natures for these pokemon? Medicham falls in the same boat.

Why no just double their attack if that's what the ability does? I don't understand why they're intentionally held back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:22:03 No.49219164 Report

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>>49215326
>Oh, that shiny Misdreavus is Relaxed? Into the box you go!
People give SWSH a lot of shit for rightful reasons but one of the good things it did were Nature Mints so that the shiny Pokémon with a shit nature can have a good one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:00:40 No.49220197 Report

Quoted By: >>49220329 >>49220355

>>49215908
I'm wondering why you would trade pokemon in this game. There is one game, no version exclusives, no abilities etc. The only reason would be shinies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:13:56 No.49220229 Report

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>>49215944
If all you care about is online battles, then you've known the entirety of gen 8 besides SWSH are pointless purchases because they confirmed before SWSH even launched that it was going to be the competitive hub game for all of gen 8.

>>49219069
Because being a 200% modifier isn't the same as doubling the base stat, and it also lets them be interacted with as Abilities, such as copying/swapping them or negating them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:21:35 No.49220262 Report

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Kinda sussy amogus that they haven't shown Platinum Pokemon with no Sinnoh evos, like Absol or Swablu. I bet they're cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:22:44 No.49220265 Report

Quoted By: >>49220286

>>49215091
>>49215250
Natures should influence learnsets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:24:07 No.49220270 Report

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>>49219069
Because you can be smart and nullify the opponent ability and mon becomes weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:25:18 No.49220274 Report

Quoted By: >>49220388

>>49215590
we don't care because there is no multiplayer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:27:48 No.49220286 Report

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>>49220265
This is such a fun idea. I didn't know I needed this as bad as I do now.
Naughty natured pokemon getting fake tears and switcharoo. Calm pokemon getting calm mind. Would depend on the pokemon species of course, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:28:33 No.49220288 Report

Quoted By: >>49220901

>>49215290
>Nuzlocke
>Thank god I'm not autistic
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:31:32 No.49220301 Report

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>>49217879
>They just used the same digital PC-esque design
This is a standard design language that every single Nintendo game has to follow now.
Modern Nintendo is hyper-focused on making their games sanitized and visually consistent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:34:21 No.49220305 Report

Quoted By: >>49220321 >>49220337 >>49220904

no natures or IVs? what's the fucking point of the game then? to brainlessly mash a and kill every pokemon with ease?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:35:30 No.49220310 Report

Quoted By: >>49220568

>>49217879
It's a UI, and it's got a unique design that fits the aesthetic. Stop whining that they didn't make it look like ass by putting everything on scrolls and shit for no reason, barely any games make "in-universe" looking UIs and when they do they almost always look like ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:36:35 No.49220315 Report

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>>49215076
>pokemon being emotionless war machines back again
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:37:38 No.49220321 Report

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>>49220305
To catch and collect all the Pokemon in an area to unlock the next area to do it all again. The battling is extremely simplified because the game isn't about battling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:41:33 No.49220326 Report

Quoted By: >>49220383

>>49215076
5fps
trees and general overall look
removed is a feature
so its not bad enough gamefreak to be ever so lazy and shit past 3 gens they have to low effort again with another game in attempt to sell something "new" while limiting the scale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:42:31 No.49220329 Report

Quoted By: >>49220350

>>49220197
First reason would be the starters I guess. But also, someone might have a rare Pokemon you can't find that you want to have.
Like, in SM I just couldn't find a fucking Dhelmise and meanwhile my friend catches two back to fucking back, and it was his first and second try to boot! So we traded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:44:19 No.49220335 Report

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>>49215076
jesus christ I love how this menu looks, reminds me of PBR
missed the mon mugshots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:44:26 No.49220336 Report

Quoted By: >>49220340 >>49220346 >>49220347

>>49215908
The most insane thing about this is the faggots already doing mental gymnastics and justifying this lack of pvp, a main staple of the series. Same with a even smaller dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:44:32 No.49220337 Report

Quoted By: >>49220710

>>49220305
Nigger you can do that with any Pokemon game basically. You could use an Adamant Alakazam and it would still rapestomp everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:45:30 No.49220340 Report

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>>49220336
>muh pvp
pretty sure you can battle your friends, so as long as you have irl friends you're fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:46:44 No.49220346 Report

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>>49220336
I hate this so much, I want to try out the new FFX like battle system vs other people. There could probably be legitimate mindgames with the two styles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:46:47 No.49220347 Report

Quoted By: >>49220761

>>49220336
Not having PvP can be a good thing because it means they don't have to balance things, and they can have more freedom in their mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:47:24 No.49220350 Report

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>>49220329
Right, I forgot about the starters. Yeah with no breeding I think this would be the main reason. Tho rare pokemon can certainly be a real pain in the ass..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:48:59 No.49220355 Report

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>>49220197
Pokemon's entire premise behind trading was to facilitate socializing with your friends over a shared activity. People whine over how greedy they are with double game releases and exclusive content, and the time they don't do it some other faggot whines that he doesn't have a reason to buy 2 copies and trade with himself. Jesus fucking christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:56:54 No.49220383 Report

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>>49220326
Go back on the same floating door you came here on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:58:01 No.49220388 Report

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>>49220274
Don’t speak for me, pissant fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:14:20 No.49220464 Report

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Never got the point of nature affecting stats to begin with considering some pokemon change their nature upon evolving and stuff.
But why the hell did they remove abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:20:03 No.49220492 Report

Quoted By: >>49220504

Never got the point of nature affecting stats to begin with considering some pokemon change their nature upon evolving and stuff.
But why the hell did they remove abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:22:23 No.49220504 Report

Quoted By: >>49220531

>>49220492
What the fuck dimension did you come from? Natures don't change on evolution. Ever. Also they removed Abilities because it didn't fit with the battle design they wanted, you'll get those (and natures) back once you transfer them to HOME.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:28:11 No.49220531 Report

Quoted By: >>49220589

>>49220504
He means like personal nature, like Whismur being timid to Exploud being, well, loud.

Okay, since we don't get natures and abilities in this game, what abilities do you think the new pokemon SHOULD have?

Hisuian Voltorb/Electrode
Ability Name: Spherical
Boosts ball and bomb moves

Boosts (and learns) Seed Bomb, Energy Ball, Electro Ball, Gyro Ball, Shadow Ball, Explosion/SD, Ice Ball, Rollout, etc etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:38:12 No.49220568 Report

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>>49220310
>unique design that fits the aesthetic
What? It's not remotely unique and doesn't fit the aesthetic at all in the slightest. It's a complete thematic departure except for some of the word choice, like "pastures" or "original partner."
>they almost always look like ass.
Just because you dislike the way it's been done by other games doesn't mean there's no good way to do it. A simple "pasture" theme would have been enough. Not asking for cool Persona 5 UIs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:43:43 No.49220589 Report

Quoted By: >>49220698

>>49220531
Are we ever going to see the new pokemon in any mainline game?
Remember that they are extinct and no longer exist in the current present.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:08:31 No.49220698 Report

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>>49220589
>Remember that they are extinct and no longer exist in the current present
like fossils? I'm sure they can come up with some bullshit like ancient power evos, time machines, etc to insert them in another games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:11:46 No.49220710 Report

Quoted By: >>49220767

>>49220337
yes, but I never played pokemon games for their braindead campaigns, I played them for the postgame where I bred comp pokemon, shiny pokemon, and battled online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:25:55 No.49220761 Report

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>>49220347
Balance has always been a mess on Pokemon anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:26:58 No.49220767 Report

Quoted By: >>49220805 >>49220823

>>49220710
Ok, so go play SwSh/BDSP then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:37:26 No.49220805 Report

Quoted By: >>49220824

>>49220767
>BDSP
didn't they remove online from that shit game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:42:46 No.49220823 Report

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>>49220767
>BDSP
ohnonono

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:42:48 No.49220824 Report

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>>49220805
No? There's no ranked but you can still battle online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 13:06:20 No.49220901 Report

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>>49220288
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 13:07:21 No.49220904 Report

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>>49220305
>no natures or IVs? what's the fucking point of the game then?
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