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Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 12:57:31 No.49239198 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49239333 >>49239539 >>49239570 >>49239658 >>49240143 >>49240171 >>49240200 >>49241503

Why don't they remove the charging time of Solar Beam in the games like in the anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 13:19:03 No.49239300 Report

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It's sunny day in the anime by default, unless sad thing happens to warrant rainy background. Basically Groudon won that timeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 13:25:49 No.49239333 Report

Quoted By: >>49239341

>>49239198
do not disrespect stantler anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 13:26:46 No.49239341 Report

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>>49239333
no disrespect was intended
I like Stantler because it makes shills mad so it's based in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:03:11 No.49239539 Report

Quoted By: >>49239697

>>49239198
I'd settle for actually shooting it like in the anime instead of the strange orbital laser we have now
>b-but it's a beam from the sun!
Not an argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:08:10 No.49239570 Report

Quoted By: >>49241354

>>49239198
Solar Beam does have a charge time in the anime. It's just inconsistent about how long it takes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:22:24 No.49239658 Report

Quoted By: >>49239683 >>49240582

>>49239198
They did remove the charge time. It's called use Sunny day or Drought you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:26:06 No.49239683 Report

Quoted By: >>49239703 >>49240582

>>49239658
>use another move to temporarily remove the charge time
>it's the same thing, bro
based retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:28:43 No.49239697 Report

Quoted By: >>49239716

>>49239539
>spin off devs know about pokemon more than scamfreak
how deep can Shitfreak can sink more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:29:58 No.49239703 Report

Quoted By: >>49239707 >>49240037

>>49239683
>another move
>drought
Holy FUCK you are so fucking retarded how the fuck do you even function in daily life jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:30:53 No.49239707 Report

Quoted By: >>49239728

>>49239703
>all pokemon have drought ability
kys, troll
you probably never played the games and come here just to jerk off to underage girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:31:56 No.49239716 Report

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>>49239697
Unite devs are competent/not Gamefreak
The mainline game attacks are made to be as standard/widely usable as possible; beam/breath attacks don't fire from the correct place in most instances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:34:05 No.49239728 Report

Quoted By: >>49239736

>>49239707
>all pokemon have drought ability
Where did I ay this you stupid bitch? Please jump off a ducking cliff

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:35:10 No.49239736 Report

Quoted By: >>49239754

>>49239728
>charging time doesn't exist bro because those few pokemon who have this specific ability exist bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:37:16 No.49239754 Report

Quoted By: >>49239765

>>49239736
>waah gamefrak let me spam my 120 base power 100 accuracy attack with no downsides or setup for ever im a stupid bitch baby scrub who sucks dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:38:41 No.49239765 Report

Quoted By: >>49239776

>>49239754
bitch, EQ is more stable in meta and has 100% accuracy.
they can modify the move and nerf it too

God, go play the games you little bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:39:14 No.49239772 Report

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>solar beam comes out of the mouth

nah, senpai. FR FR fuck that AF. Yo.

Solar beam be bussin OUT DAT mouf hole, not dat flower power senpai, fr fr

anyway not sure who needs to hear this but this has been NO CAP haha lit af board tho

pce

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:39:30 No.49239776 Report

Quoted By: >>49239856

>>49239765
EQ isnt 120 base power and half the fucking game is immune to it. Not even close to the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 14:49:56 No.49239856 Report

Quoted By: >>49239928

>>49239776
Solar Beam is resisted by 7 types and is nullified by Sap Sipper
it's not as dangerous as EQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:03:17 No.49239928 Report

Quoted By: >>49239940 >>49240057

>>49239856
A whopping 17 pokemon have sap sipper, so only 17 pokemon in the entire game are immune to solarbeam and most of those 17 are shitmons. Meanwhile over 100 Pokémon are immune to earthquake due to flying type and levitate, and its resisted by grass and bug, and earthquake is a weaker attack. A 120 power attack with perfect accuracy and no downsides at all that only 17 pokemon are immune to would be completely broken and you are retarded for thinking otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:05:01 No.49239940 Report

Quoted By: >>49239959

>>49239928
SB had 200 power attack in LGPE and it was neither commonly used, nor made Venusaur broken

you are delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:07:54 No.49239959 Report

Quoted By: >>49239968

>>49239940
LGPE didn't have drought or sunny day in it. That's why they increased to power. Because there's no way to circumvent the charge turn. Your stupidity is seriously baffling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:09:38 No.49239968 Report

Quoted By: >>49239999 >>49240013 >>49240212

>>49239959
charging doesn't stop it from being devastating with its 200 BP, brainlet

Solar Beam was not viable because it's a grass-type move which is why should modify it by removing the charging requirement and nerf it to 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:15:58 No.49239999 Report

Quoted By: >>49240021

>>49239968
>Solar Beam was not viable because it's a grass-type move

No, it's not viable because it has to charge outside of sun.

Why would I waste a turn charging a 120 BP move when I can do more damage using a 75 BP move (Giga Drain) twice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:17:58 No.49240013 Report

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>>49239968
>Solar Beam was not viable
Except it is viable on drought users.
>which is why should modify it by removing the charging requirement and nerf it to 100
so you just want it to become a completely different attack then. Just use energy ball. 90 base power, 100 accuracy, no charge turn. That's basically what you are asking for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:18:32 No.49240021 Report

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>>49239999
because grass type is resisted by many types and charging puts the user vulnerable to 4~5 super effective moves.

Solar Beam won't be magically OP by removing the charging, it makes it usable outside sun teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:20:56 No.49240037 Report

Quoted By: >>49240043

>>49239703
What a retard tryhard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:21:41 No.49240043 Report

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>>49240037
What a retard inbred faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:24:54 No.49240057 Report

Quoted By: >>49240091

>>49239928
>nooooo only 17 pokemon have sap sipper
>yes the 5 with drought was my original argument
I wish I could live like you retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:29:17 No.49240091 Report

Quoted By: >>49240177

>>49240057
Keep embarrassing yourself. It's funny.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:36:52 No.49240143 Report

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>>49239198
A sunflower with sunglasses in the sun is the strongest user of this move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:40:55 No.49240171 Report

Quoted By: >>49240186

>>49239198
The anime also has trainers using multiple moves a turn and ignores type match ups for plot or targeting terrain for an advantage

Anime also has to concern itself with runtime and pacing which games dont

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:41:53 No.49240177 Report

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>>49240091
I'm not the anon you were talking to. Are you too autistic to tell people apart?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:43:02 No.49240186 Report

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>>49240171
the turns are game mechanic but buffing a rarely used move isn't a bad idea to implement.

most people still use Power Whip or Energy Blast because solar beam fucking sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:46:09 No.49240200 Report

Quoted By: >>49240229

>>49239198
Because a 120 power grass attack with 100 accuracy learnable by a shitload of Pokemon, including basically every single fire type, is fucking retarded. They'd have to cut the accuracy to fucking ~70 at minimum to even hope to balance it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:47:18 No.49240212 Report

Quoted By: >>49240229

>>49239968
>Solar Beam was not viable because it's a grass-type move
Are you seriously implying that grass type coverage is useless? How fucking dumb are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:49:22 No.49240229 Report

Quoted By: >>49240238 >>49240246 >>49241310

>>49240200
it's only retarded when Ma$uda gave it to every fire type so shitzard fight water types.
Especially when this move is entirely based on photosynthesis, a functions that only found in plants.

they can nerf its accuracy while removing the charging and make it useful for once

>>49240212
no you retard, I'm talking about this one move being shit, which is why I said people use power whip/energy blast instead of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:50:27 No.49240238 Report

Quoted By: >>49240250

>>49240229
>power whip
That's a physical attack you dumb fuck
>energy blast
Given that you can't even remember the name of the attack, I'm going to assume you're under the age of 18 and have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:51:27 No.49240246 Report

Quoted By: >>49240250

>>49240229
That's my point you fuck. To make Solar Beam balanced as a one turn move they would have to cut it down to 70 accuracy at least. At that point it's still arguably worse than Energy Ball because it's just going to be grass type Blizzard or Focus Miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:52:22 No.49240250 Report

Quoted By: >>49240292

>>49240238
>nooooo you made a typo so you are wrong xD
you are the real underage here

>>49240246
i was supporting your point, idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:56:57 No.49240292 Report

Quoted By: >>49240321

>>49240250
You aren't supporting my point because you seem to be under the impression that doing this would be GOOD. When's the last time you saw someone use Blizzard over Ice Beam outside of a fucking Hail team? Fun fact, it never fucking happens. People only use Focus Blast when it's their ONLY option over fucking Hidden Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 15:59:47 No.49240321 Report

Quoted By: >>49240387

>>49240292
Ice Beam has a chance to put pokemon to freeze so Hail doesn't offer much, especially when in hail teams.
but even in sun teams, nobody use Solar Beam because it's still unreliable and Energy Ball still replaces it.

Solar Beam is usually useless since Gen1 and they still refuse to fix it outside giving fire types drought to kill water types because that how charizard fuckers think about balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:07:19 No.49240387 Report

Quoted By: >>49240404

>>49240321
>Ice Beam has a chance to put pokemon to freeze so Hail doesn't offer much, especially when in hail teams.
That's fucking false you idiot. Blizzard has perfect accuracy in Hail and can freeze too. Nobody uses Ice Beam on Hail teams and nobody uses Blizzard off Hail teams.
>but even in sun teams, nobody use Solar Beam because it's still unreliable and Energy Ball still replaces it.
That's fucking false too. Literally every Pokemon with Drought as an ability runs fucking Solar Beam. As do other team members of Sun teams where applicable. Stop fucking theorycrafting when you clearly don't even fucking play this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:08:59 No.49240404 Report

Quoted By: >>49240430

>>49240387
>Literally every Pokemon with Drought as an ability runs fucking Solar Beam
those fire types with no much options of grass moves? sure they have to use the only grass type they can learn, genius

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:11:25 No.49240430 Report

Quoted By: >>49240452

>>49240404
Why the fuck would they run anything besides solar beam even if they had access to other shit? It's a fucking sun team. You really think they would pick giga drain, grass knot, or energy ball instead? Holy fuck you're dumb. My point is right now Solar Beam is great on sun teams. Removing the charge and cutting the accuracy will just make it fucking worthless. You are proposing a NERF to Solar Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:14:12 No.49240452 Report

Quoted By: >>49240566 >>49240848 >>49241269 >>49241341

>>49240430
>grass pokemon don't use solar beam because giga drain is better
>fire pokemon use solar beam because it's their only option under the sun
Solar Beam is a situational move that is only used when the user has no other coverage option.
A fire pokemon would use an electric move instead if it has access to electric moves.
do you see my point now?
Grass pokemon don't find much use of solar beam

try to spend more than 1 millisecond to think next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:22:45 No.49240566 Report

Quoted By: >>49240598

>>49240452
>>grass pokemon don't use solar beam because giga drain is better
On sun teams grass types like Venusaur use Solar Beam.
>>fire pokemon use solar beam because it's their only option under the sun
On sun teams fire types would still use Solar Beam even if they had access to other moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:24:02 No.49240582 Report

Quoted By: >>49240609 >>49240644 >>49240782

>>49239683
>>49239658
y'all are the reason why the main title games have been piss easy since B2W2, jfc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:26:10 No.49240598 Report

Quoted By: >>49240607

>>49240566
>On sun teams grass types like Venusaur use Solar Beam.
https://www.pikalytics.com/pokedex/ss/venusaur

stop lying
no body uses Solar Beam with Venusaur lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:27:35 No.49240607 Report

Quoted By: >>49240618

>>49240598
>vgc
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:27:37 No.49240609 Report

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>>49240582
>Pointing out that you can remove solarbeam's charge time with sunny day and drought is why the games are so easy now
Can you please explain why you came to that conclusion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:28:46 No.49240618 Report

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>>49240607
>gets btfo when facing actual facts
of course it's a fucking troll who doesn't play pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:31:17 No.49240644 Report

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>>49240582
No correlation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:45:33 No.49240782 Report

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>>49240582
>another Hoennigger falseflagging as a BW Purist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 16:54:55 No.49240848 Report

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>>49240452
Why are you arguing with a typical/vp/ user about competitive? These are the same people who thought Mega Metagross and Mega Sableye would be shit when their stats and abilities were revealed in Gen 6. Shit, more recently, they predicted Intelleon would be OU when Gen 8 got datamined.

You're just wasting your time dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:38:02 No.49241241 Report

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Why not just run Drought on something? If you're using Solarbeam you can get Chlorophyll value on it with something along the lines of Victreebel, Venusaur or any other based grass type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:41:50 No.49241269 Report

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>>49240452
>A fire pokemon would use an electric move instead if it has access to electric moves.
Based retard doesn't know what Rock or Ground are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:45:34 No.49241310 Report

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>>49240229
>Especially when this move is entirely based on photosynthesis, a functions that only found in plants.
Nah senpai, that's synthesis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:48:16 No.49241341 Report

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>>49240452
>A fire pokémon would use an electric move
No, why? Grass hits water, ground and rock types for SE damage, why would a Fire type choose an electric type attack instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:49:52 No.49241354 Report

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>>49239570
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 17:59:08 No.49241444 Report

Quoted By: >>49241454

Solar Beam exists to be used in the sun. Imagine you made solar beam 70% accurate but then it had 100% accuracy in the sun. It still wouldn't be used by anything at all outside of the sun. There is effectively no difference because using Solar Beam outside of the sun would be retarded either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 18:00:21 No.49241454 Report

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>>49241444
>Solar Beam exists to be used in the sun
there was no weather mechanics of Sunny Day in Gen1

they tried to make a Kamehameha clone but failed to make it cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 18:01:43 No.49241462 Report

Quoted By: >>49241471

>he doesn't play pokemon unite
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 18:02:32 No.49241471 Report

Quoted By: >>49241483

>>49241462
I do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 18:03:56 No.49241483 Report

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>>49241471
ywnbam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Jan 2022 18:05:59 No.49241503 Report

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>>49239198
>What is power herb.

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