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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:09:19 No.49254940 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49255060 >>49255104 >>49255149 >>49255970 >>49258554 >>49258665 >>49258730

ITT: Pokemon with lore that is in no way reflected in their stats/gameplay, and ideas on how to fix them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:10:45 No.49254954 Report

Quoted By: >>49255228 >>49256402

Vikavolt, what the actual fuck were they thinking?
Also at least Niggalith has a cool shiny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:22:09 No.49255060 Report

Quoted By: >>49256399 >>49256678 >>49258645

>>49254940
This could be fixed with a Special Attack version of Huge/Pure Power. Call it "Light Power" and give it to shitmons that use light to attack, like Gigalith, Lumineon, or Volbeat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:25:08 No.49255100 Report

Quoted By: >>49256443 >>49259211 >>49260467

>Absolute shit stats
>Evolves retardedly late
>TWO crippling 4x weaknesses
>lore literally says it evaporates water on contact
Makes TOO much sense to give it a water-nullifying ability I guess?

I'd buff its stats up a bit. Give it a new ability that nullifies water moves, and lowers speed by one stage whenever it procs (as though the lava is hardening and leaves it less mobile). Maybe give it some cool Fire version of Gyro ball too for some extra synergy.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:25:44 No.49255104 Report

Quoted By: >>49258672

>>49254940
Mach 2 Pidgeot
91-101 speed isn't even that great, especially when it gets outspeed by a freaking cat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:28:27 No.49255134 Report

Quoted By: >>49255155 >>49255204 >>49258672

it's simply too fucking strong for what it is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:29:35 No.49255149 Report

Quoted By: >>49259181

>>49254940
is he too obvious? fucking give him earth power already you cocksuckers, he better have it in legends at least.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:30:27 No.49255155 Report

Quoted By: >>49257091

>>49255134
nah shes perfect

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:32:30 No.49255173 Report

Quoted By: >>49255238 >>49256192

>y dex entry mentions it uses a wall of ice to protect itself, and there's no ice-type version of spikey shield/king's shield/or obstruct
>sword dex entry says that auroras appear when it howls, and it can't learn howl
Why is Game Freak so disgustingly incompetent when it comes to Pokémon that are not men wearing suits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:36:26 No.49255204 Report

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>>49255134
Where's her cyan fortune cookie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:38:56 No.49255228 Report

Quoted By: >>49256402

>>49254954
>electric
>winged bug with a ton of sharp edges on the design
>slower that things like golem
seriously how

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jan 2022 23:39:35 No.49255238 Report

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>>49255173
Imagine getting this upset about something so minor. Virgin mentality

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 00:24:51 No.49255621 Report

Quoted By: >>49256310 >>49259322

>Has worse stats than every single derp out there, despite being a stone evolution
>Not only that, it has one of the single most useless abilities to exist in the series
What the actual fuck were they thinking? I've seen some people say that it's supposed to be good for contests, but that's more on moveset variety than it is on the actual stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 00:53:27 No.49255970 Report

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>>49254940
Reuniclus is the opposite of this
Dex entry talks about how it prefers just beating the shit out of things than using its psychic powers, but it's just a generic monoPsychic special attacker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:16:51 No.49256192 Report

Quoted By: >>49256252 >>49256510 >>49258680

>>49255173
>wall of ice to protect itself
It gets Aurora Veil, you could also interpret the entry could be refering to protect
>sword dex entry says
Names for moves and pokedex entries are localised and translated, maybe they originally were not the same exact word, you should interpret it to aurorus using its voice and thats it. Howl is literally useless on it, it already learns growl and round naturally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:25:37 No.49256252 Report

Quoted By: >>49256351

>>49256192
>It gets Aurora Veil

Aurora Veil wasn't introduced until a gen later, so it's not referring to that, and Protect is an energy barrrier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:31:28 No.49256310 Report

Quoted By: >>49256402

>>49255621
Cute Charm was great in Gen IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:37:03 No.49256351 Report

Quoted By: >>49256403

>>49256252
>Aurora veil was introduced later
Yeah because GameFreak are retarded and so metagame-iliterate that they likely even thought that it would be broken. They have redeemed themselves and it has been fixed now, so aurora veil is not a problem anymore.
>protect is an energy barrier
The energy barrier thing is not canonically confirmed, anime does not have the same canon as the games, and in the game it doesnt specify, it just says it enables the user to evade or protect from attacks. Move animations are just a represantation, you wouldn't think pikachu has white gloves just because of its double slap animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:41:53 No.49256399 Report

Quoted By: >>49256462 >>49256483 >>49259100 >>49259436

>>49255060
this could be fixed by just swapping Gigalith's attacking stats. No need to convolute it. Even if it doesn't make Gigalith conventionally good it at least would get a niche as the only bulky, non-Legendary Rock-type special attacker.

Power Gem/Earth Power/Flash Cannon is still solid coverage off of 135 Sp. Atk. Are there any fan games that do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:42:17 No.49256402 Report

Quoted By: >>49256973 >>49260964

>>49256310
True, especially for it's ability to force a shiny in those generations if you're lucky, but I was more referring to Normalize than anything.
>>49254954
>>49255228
Also jumping on this ship; its dex entries and how it was introduced to people literally says it zips around with acrobatic maneuvers, and yet it's slower than Golem, Octillery, Armaldo, Dusknoir, Hippowdon, Druddigon, Donphan, Aggron, and the Regi trio. What fucking sense does that bullshit make?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:42:18 No.49256403 Report

Quoted By: >>49256531

>>49256351
>it just says it enables the user to evade or protect from attacks

Detect = Evading
Protect = Exactly what it says

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:46:55 No.49256443 Report

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>>49255100
Thank you for reminding me that I tried using this in Crystal Clear and the evolution came so late it became the only gen 2 pokemon I hate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:49:34 No.49256462 Report

Quoted By: >>49256514

>>49256399
>at least would get a niche as the only bulky, non-Legendary Rock-type special attacker.
Thank you for reminding me that Aurorus is objectively the most wasted design in all of Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:51:09 No.49256483 Report

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>>49256399
>Are there any fan games that do this?
It's not that hard to do yourself. I've tweaked a few Pokemon's stats in my games before just for personal use

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:53:43 No.49256510 Report

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>>49256192
>It gets Aurora Veil
Just only one generation after the move was introduced in gen 7 because of incompetence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:54:06 No.49256514 Report

Quoted By: >>49256543

>>49256462
>no mega that makes it a water/ice plesiosaur with slush rush so it can set itself up for its own sweep for free
Gamefreak had one job

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:56:08 No.49256531 Report

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>>49256403
I imagine it the same as you, but this is what the games literally say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 01:57:41 No.49256543 Report

Quoted By: >>49256562

>>49256514
Mega Aurorus being a plesiosaur would defeat the purpose of it being an amargasaurus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:00:21 No.49256562 Report

Quoted By: >>49256640

>>49256543
aurorus being shit defeats the purpose of it not having a mega, which is the more significant problem by far

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:08:51 No.49256640 Report

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>>49256562
I wasn't saying that it shouldn't have a mega evolution. I said that it becoming a plesiosaur (an entirely different dinosaur) would defeat the purpose of it being an amargasaurus. Then again, Aurorus should've had better stats from the start and its Attack stat of 77 is too high for a special attacker. It's almost as if Game Freak did this on purpose because Aurorus having a decent stat spread would've ruined the already non-existent game balancing.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:12:26 No.49256678 Report

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>>49255060
>Tail Glow Light Power

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:16:22 No.49256724 Report

Quoted By: >>49256750 >>49258442

>doesn't get Fur Coat/Fluffy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:19:05 No.49256750 Report

Quoted By: >>49256773 >>49256778 >>49256812

>>49256724
Why would it?
Its a balloon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:22:23 No.49256773 Report

Quoted By: >>49258693

>>49256750
Dex entries all talk about how amazing its fur is
And I just want my boy to have SOMETHING cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:22:48 No.49256778 Report

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>>49256750
>doesn't get balloon skin
wigglybros... we lost...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:25:48 No.49256812 Report

Quoted By: >>49256864 >>49257737

>>49256750
it's a mochi-balloon RABBIT.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:30:46 No.49256864 Report

Quoted By: >>49256882 >>49256978

>>49256812
actually wait, fuck me, forget fur coat, it's a R A B B I T. And clearly a well-fed rabbit unlike those beanpoles Mega-lopunny and Cinderace.

It should have Huge Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:32:58 No.49256882 Report

Quoted By: >>49256955

>>49256864
There are so many directions you could go in.
Huge Power fits, Fluffly/Fur Coat fits, Serene Grace could work well with its moveset.
Instead its Hidden Ability is fucking FRISK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:42:57 No.49256955 Report

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>>49256882
to be fair, Frisk is like "unobstructable vision" or something in japanese and all of its dex entries are about how it's eye are the size of dinner plates.

It's one of those that's very poorly localized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:45:17 No.49256973 Report

Quoted By: >>49257008 >>49257056

>>49256402
Speed stat isn't referring only to movement speed, Vikavolt moves fast but fires slow because it's a railgun and has to charge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:45:57 No.49256978 Report

Quoted By: >>49257496

>>49256864
I just realized that everything in gen1 that evolves from a moonstone has rabbit ears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:50:18 No.49257008 Report

Quoted By: >>49257020 >>49257082

>>49256973
Does Delcatty have to charge it's "acrobatic maneuvers"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:51:53 No.49257020 Report

Quoted By: >>49257038

>>49257008
Does Delcatty have a railgun somewhere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:53:52 No.49257038 Report

Quoted By: >>49257052

>>49257020
That's my point. It's a cat and the dex describes it as agile so it doesn't make sense why it is so slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:56:34 No.49257052 Report

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>>49257038
The dex describes it as a lazy stylish Pokemon, 90 speed isn't slow either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:56:42 No.49257056 Report

Quoted By: >>49257065 >>49257082

>>49256973
then it should have double team, agility, quick attack, extreme speed, and maybe first impression.

Or heck, give it zippy zap. it's a priority move that boosts evasion. perfect fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 02:58:46 No.49257065 Report

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>>49257056
It has agility and acrobatics and double team. Even if it had those moves it would never use them anyway, plus having priority attacks on a railgun kind of defeats the theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 03:00:57 No.49257082 Report

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>>49257056
it does get agility.

and since a LOT of dex entries mention maglev effects, and it's just because they get magnet rise, i'm going to say learned move pools count, not just stats and abilities.

speaking of
>>49257008
no dex entry mentiones delcatty having acrobatic manuevers or being fat at all.

are you thinking of a different pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 03:02:12 No.49257091 Report

Quoted By: >>49257121

>>49255155
That's a big cookie!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 03:05:13 No.49257121 Report

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>>49257091
Could stick your whole face in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 03:49:49 No.49257496 Report

Quoted By: >>49257552

>>49256978
There's some japanese myth about rabbits living on the moon, so that's probably why

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 03:55:43 No.49257552 Report

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>>49257496
that would be how i realized it, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 04:17:39 No.49257737 Report

Quoted By: >>49257875

>>49256812
Is it? I always thought that it's just a more inflated Jigglypuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 04:36:55 No.49257875 Report

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>>49257737
it's family line is literally the same shapes as azumarill.

tiny ball.
ball with ears.
egg rabbit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 05:59:12 No.49258420 Report

Quoted By: >>49258656

Make it Fighting/Flying. Give it Close Combat and Flying Press.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:02:55 No.49258442 Report

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>>49256724
This, but with the more fitting Stoutland

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:20:50 No.49258554 Report

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>>49254940
I'd like a new version of Gigalith that functions like a rock type Oricorio. Rock/Normal base, give it an Electric, Fairy, Fire, and Ice forme using elemental crystal shards. Give it a Crystal Cannon signature move with 5PP and 110 pwr and 90 acc which automatically takes the type of the Gigalith forme, a la Revelation Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:43:12 No.49258645 Report

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>>49255060
Or just change Gigalith's stats, instead of doing this autism. That, and give Gigalith Solar Power as an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:45:41 No.49258656 Report

Quoted By: >>49258683 >>49258700

>>49258420
Braviary doesn't need to be Fighting/Flying, imo. It just needs better Speed and an earlier evolution level

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:47:25 No.49258665 Report

Quoted By: >>49258678

>>49254940
Theree are a lot of mons that for some reason have really low HP stat compared to other mons of same sizes. Electavire and Magmortar shoud have 100HP

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:48:46 No.49258668 Report

Quoted By: >>49258699 >>49259192

Hoes will be mad, but deep down, they know I'm telling the truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:49:20 No.49258672 Report

Quoted By: >>49258686

>>49255104
It FLIES at these speeds, not attacks.
>>49255134
All problems are in typing. Zamazenta should have been Fairy steel and Zacian Fighting Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:50:18 No.49258678 Report

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>>49258665
I'd at least rebuild Electivire to be a lot bulkier on the physical side. Maybe lower it's SpecAttack, and give it something like 90 Defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:50:31 No.49258680 Report

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>>49256192
>It gets Aurora Veil
NOT BY LEVELING UP WHILE FUCKING EISCUE GETS IT

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:51:03 No.49258683 Report

Quoted By: >>49258716 >>49258718

>>49258656
I disagree. It's pokedex entries points out how much they love and value fighting. In addition to that, it would've been a fitting counterpart to Mandibuzz's Dark/Fighting type a.l.a Hero bird vs Villain bird. But yeah, higher speed and earlier evo is needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:51:19 No.49258686 Report

Quoted By: >>49258710

>>49258672
>It FLIES at these speeds, not attacks.
Why can't it attack just as fast as it flies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:52:21 No.49258693 Report

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>>49256773
It should have 100% chance sleeping move since gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:53:54 No.49258699 Report

Quoted By: >>49258704

>>49258668
it's not just two retarded temporary forms anymore anon, now there's three!

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:53:57 No.49258700 Report

Quoted By: >>49258718

>>49258656
Agree with the earlier evo, but in terms of flavor text it really could've passed off as Fighting. From the name Wargle ie War/Eagle, to the warrior theme, even to the founding of the basis for Unova "fighting for independence."

It's also not as boring as Normal/Flying, which we have plenty of, and contrast nicely with its Dark counterpart Mandibuzz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:54:42 No.49258704 Report

Quoted By: >>49258759

>>49258699
Yeah, I made this maymay a while ago. Back when the world wasn't corvid, and the UK didn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:55:35 No.49258710 Report

Quoted By: >>49258724

>>49258686
This is not how it works. Fast planes are not good for bombarding for example.

But that WOULD be interesting if they gave it "Boost speed by hinders accuracy" ability"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:57:35 No.49258716 Report

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>>49258683
Shedinja'd by this anon on their point about Mandibuzz kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:57:55 No.49258718 Report

Quoted By:

>>49258683
>>49258700
I tend to be pretty conservative, when it comes to changing the types of Pokemon. I think Game Freak should go more wild, in terms of changing the stats/abilities/movesets/ect of Pokemon, but not so much with types. Not saying Pokemon types should NEVER change, but I don't think a Pokemon's type should be changed just to make it "less boring", or whatever
Wouldn't lose sleep over Braviary being Fighting/Flying, since there are a lot of justifications for it, but I also don't think it's too big of a deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 06:58:57 No.49258724 Report

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>>49258710
Pidgeot is a bird, not a plane. Birds-of-prey like Pidgeot are known for attacking fast

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:01:08 No.49258730 Report

Quoted By: >>49258746 >>49258781

>>49254940
>Literally devours prey like an antlion and saps their life energy
>No Arena Trap
>No Strength Sap
Also Water Compaction not providing a free immunity to attacks like how Water Absorb, Storm Drain, Volt Absorb, etc, do. I'd even settle for it just acting like Heatproof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:04:19 No.49258746 Report

Quoted By: >>49258768

>>49258730
Palossand would be a massive fucking bullshit to deal with, if it had Arena Trap + Strength Sap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:06:39 No.49258759 Report

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>>49258704
it still doesn't exist though, what are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:08:04 No.49258768 Report

Quoted By: >>49258786

>>49258746
how about just arena trap then, it does already get giga drain and pain split

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:09:52 No.49258777 Report

Quoted By: >>49258821 >>49258830

Lumineon having just as high of an Attack stat as it's SpAttack stat has always been weird to me. It's also kind of a waste how it's a fish Pokemon that has it's whole gimmick being how it's a fish that looks like a butterfly, yet it doesn't learn Quiver Dance
Here's how I would fix Lumineon:
New Stats: 79/29/76/99/106/101/BST:490
Ability Buff: Water Veil grants the user Fire-Type immunity + it's ally(s) resistance to Fire-Type attacks + burning immunity
New Moves: Quiver Dance, Hurricane, Air Slash, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Giga Drain, Energy Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:10:28 No.49258781 Report

Quoted By: >>49258793

>>49258730
Water compaction not having water imunity makes sense. WHat does no make sense is Pallosands stats for what it is.
Lets hope they wiill change its moveset to have scorching sands AND FUCKING SAND TOMB

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:11:53 No.49258786 Report

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>>49258768
Arena Trap is the more bullshit of the two things, imo. Strength Sap on it's own wouldn't be too bad to deal with, since Pallossand isn't already that good of a Pokemon. It's just that trapping abilities such as Arena Trap and Shadow Tag are so overpowered, that they make Pokemon such as Gothetelle and Dugtrio get banned in Smogon and a bitch to fight in Singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:13:14 No.49258793 Report

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>>49258781
>Water compaction not having water imunity makes sense
Should at least still grant Pallossand a Water resistance. No point in having an ability that requires the user get hit by a type it's weak to. Especially if the ability isn't super amazing, to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:16:58 No.49258813 Report

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dragonite's lore in the Orange Islands says that its really fucking fast. It also has extremespeed. Why does it share the same speed stat as Magikarp, a fish who is supposedly "a weak swimmer"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:18:24 No.49258821 Report

Quoted By: >>49258844

>>49258777
Just thought of another Pokemon: Electrode
It's the posterchild for the move Explosion, yet is one of the worst users of that move
Here's how I would fix Electrode:
New Stats: 60/30/80/95/95/140/BST:500
New Abilities: Soundproof/Aftermath/(HA)Galvanize
New Moves: Overheat, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Flash Cannon, Dazzling Gleam, Dark Pulse, Nasty Plot, Boomburst, Explosion (now 500 base power + a Mixed move)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:19:44 No.49258830 Report

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>>49258777
As a person who for some reason loves this fish, I use it as a soak user. Its the fastest soak user to be precise.
What bothers me is the shitty lvl up moveset.
It learns Soak and Tailwind AFTER 59 lvls
Tailwind should be its first move when it evolves, and soak needs to be learnable on lvl 20.
Quiver dance is a no brainer, but I wish it could also learn thunderwave (no other electric moves), dazzling gleam and Charm(naturally)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:21:37 No.49258844 Report

Quoted By: >>49258870

>>49258821
Fuck soundproof. Galvanize should have been given to it as normal ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:29:26 No.49258870 Report

Quoted By: >>49259061

>>49258844
Galvanize would be too overpowered, as a non-Hidden Ability

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:33:54 No.49258888 Report

Quoted By: >>49258901 >>49259069

HIGH SPEED
20 BASE SPEED

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 07:37:35 No.49258901 Report

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>>49258888
Professor Juniper has poo hair, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:08:37 No.49259061 Report

Quoted By: >>49259073

>>49258870
lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:09:39 No.49259069 Report

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>>49258888
also - IT FLIES

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:10:46 No.49259073 Report

Quoted By: >>49259083 >>49259140

>>49259061
lolyes
There's a reason why no Pokemon that isn't called Aurorus has an -ate ability as a Hidden Ability

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:12:19 No.49259083 Report

Quoted By: >>49259090

>>49259073
You can get stronger pokemon litteraly on second/third routes

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:13:56 No.49259090 Report

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>>49259083
Name five

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:16:04 No.49259100 Report

Quoted By: >>49259436

>>49256399
Inclement Emerald does exactly that.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:27:18 No.49259140 Report

Quoted By: >>49259156

>>49259073
>There's a reason why no Pokemon that isn't called Aurorus has an -ate ability as a Hidden Ability
Aurorus's Hidden Ability is Snow Warning while Refrigerate is the regular ability so try looking up what its hidden ability is if you want to talk some thrash about the Pokémon next time.

Also pic-related's hidden ability is Pixilate while its regular ability is Cute Charm, so you're wrong, again. Play the game.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:33:45 No.49259156 Report

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>>49259140
Wait, shit. Mistyped. Meant to say "There's a reason why no Pokemon that isn't called Aurorus has an -ate ability as a non-Hidden Ability"

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:40:43 No.49259181 Report

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>>49255149
This, also
>Typhlosion
>Typhoon+ Explosion
>Boomburst=Sound wave Explosion
>Doesn’t get Boomburst even though Volcanoes are one of the loudest noises in nature
The idea that this would be broken is laughable. While 140 BP is damn good, Typhlosion would not get STAB and it can never be super effective. for reference a base 95 STAB move has a true base Power of 135 even before super-effectiveness is taken into a effect)
Also may as well give it Explosion too.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:43:27 No.49259192 Report

Quoted By: >>49259215 >>49259321 >>49259457 >>49259513 >>49259522

>>49258668
>mediocre coverage
>literally has one the best movepools in the game
What?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:47:50 No.49259211 Report

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>>49255100
Why is it the turtle from Sly Raccoon?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 08:49:27 No.49259215 Report

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>>49259192
>almost everything on there is due to gen I movepools
Damn nice.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 09:23:13 No.49259321 Report

Quoted By: >>49259346

>>49259192
It doesn't have good coverage where it matters. Most of Charizard's movepool consists of physical moves

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 09:23:37 No.49259322 Report

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>>49255621
At least it's really strong in Mystery Dungeon.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 09:34:17 No.49259346 Report

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>>49259321
>even charizard's special coverage options is shit
Damn

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 09:57:42 No.49259436 Report

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>>49256399
>>49259100
IIRC X Eternal does that too.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 10:01:54 No.49259457 Report

Quoted By: >>49259722 >>49260441

>>49259192
What the fuck. How does Clefable have more than Mewtwo?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 10:16:24 No.49259513 Report

Quoted By: >>49260441

>>49259192
>including transfer moves
OK Smogshill.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 10:19:10 No.49259522 Report

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>>49259192
fucking fairies how do they work??

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 11:02:30 No.49259722 Report

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>>49259457
Gen 1 Normal type and it being a space alien make for a huge movepool.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 13:32:00 No.49260441 Report

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>>49259457
>>49259513

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 13:35:36 No.49260467 Report

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>>49255100
bruh its a snail ofc it sucks garbage

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jan 2022 14:43:12 No.49260964 Report

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>>49256402
Vikavolt learns agility

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