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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:20:53 No.49285197 View View Reply Original Report

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>No wild Pokémon battles
>Only offers double battles
>World design is more limited than red & blue
>No exploration at all
>Some maps are straight corridors full of trainers, nothing more
>Mechanic to purify shadow mons is horrendous, just pure tediousness
>The "story" is at best on par with emerald

Why do people like this game again? Folks always remember loving this game, but I can hardly find any qualities about this one. It is conceptually a bad game, even though I used to play the shit out of this and its sequel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:26:39 No.49285243 Report

Quoted By: >>49285296

>>49285197
why do you think anon? old good and new bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:29:05 No.49285276 Report

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doubles alone puts it far above any mainline game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:29:28 No.49285283 Report

Quoted By: >>49285312

>>49285197
>3D
>Double battles
Basically this for me. The restricted dex made the game quite hard iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:30:26 No.49285296 Report

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>>49285197
>no exploration
lmao, git gud, zoomer.
>>49285243
Not in this board filled with galarcucks, kid. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:31:59 No.49285312 Report

Quoted By: >>49285432

>>49285283
Honest question without wanting to change your mind:

Does it really matter that this game is 3D, although that third dimension is hardly ever used in a meaningful way? Especially the world design feels more restricted than the handheld games at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:32:21 No.49285317 Report

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I mean at the time most people accepted this was a spinoff with nice visual dressing.
I think people just assume it was comparable to a main line game now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:36:57 No.49285370 Report

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>>49285197
While you’re right about the lack of exploration, the games core loop makes up for it. You spend the entire game with a purpose - save Shadow Pokemon. I haven’t played the game in years so it might just be nostalgia but I distinctly remember the game playing really smoothly. It didn’t require a ton of grinding to progress. It had an interesting world. The music was incredible. And the shadow Pokémon mechanic, though imperfect, was a refreshing twist on the Pokémon formula. It made every single Pokémon you caught feel like it mattered. The sequel I know for a fact is the best Pokémon spin off ever produced.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:38:00 No.49285383 Report

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>>49285197
spin-off = lower standards
nostalgia = even lower standards
put both together and you get people cock sucking shitty games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:42:59 No.49285432 Report

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>>49285312
It was just really cool to see pokemon move, and actually perform an attack, rather than a sprite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:46:23 No.49285463 Report

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>>49285197
Because Orre was fucking cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:46:49 No.49285468 Report

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The main reason I like this game is the world and characters aesthetics.

The story might be edgy and fanfic-tier by today's standards, but at the time it was a really unconventional approach to Pokémon and the first time it appealed to an older audience (teenagers instead of kids).

I understand that it might not be good in absolute terms (what absolute criteria should we use, though?), but it is one of my favorite games and I like to replay it from time to time.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:47:57 No.49285483 Report

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>>49285197
It was gritty and shook up the normal idea of what a Pokemon game was at the time. Grand Colosseum is pretty challenging and worth the play IMO. Though XD/XG may be more OP's speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:50:45 No.49285513 Report

Quoted By: >>49285582 >>49285765 >>49285776

>>49285463
... was it really though? I feel like we hardly saw anything from that region. There was no lore, no culture, no myths. Just some, admittedly, unusual visuals for Pokémon, but that alone does not make it good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:52:18 No.49285532 Report

Quoted By: >>49285563

>>49285197
>It is conceptually a bad game
No, what people think are "good" these days are actual garbage while the "bad" games are soulful and entertaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:53:44 No.49285545 Report

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Also, many of us were kids when the original Pokémania started and by the time this game came out, we were teenagers, so it is not a surprise that it is somewhat popular for our generation (not really, since nothing post-1st gen is really popular for the general public, but considering the bias that the Pokémon boards have, it is reasonable to think this).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:55:00 No.49285563 Report

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>>49285532

Making you wait until you can actually use the mon you caught and always having to travel back to a very specific point in the game to purify said mon is conceptually a horrible idea. Like, "you should get out of game design and do something else" tier horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:55:17 No.49285566 Report

Quoted By: >>49285927

At this point I immediately assume anyone shitting on any game out of nowhere on this board is some freak from a discord. I'm probably right.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:56:31 No.49285582 Report

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>>49285513
I agree, but it is a region that I want to know more about.

I wish they had done more sequels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 19:59:36 No.49285621 Report

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>>49285197
>Side game
>All double battles at a time when no one really had good strategy for doubles forcing the player to learn new strategies as stuff like Earthquake/Surf spam is now dangerous
>No wild pokemon and curated show pokemon encounters allow devs to better plan out bosses so that the player can’t just steamroll through
>Mt Battle exists so morons can brute force it if they want to grind

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:02:51 No.49285665 Report

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I had this game when I was 10 years old literally the prime age to look back on it with nostalgia in 2022.

This game had really nice settings but you're right, the shadow Pokemon thing was tedious and as a kid, I was kind of bummed that
a) It wasn't Pokemon Stadium 3 with a different name
b) It didn't revolve around the Gen 3 mons which were new and cool at the time

The Colosseum mode in the game was okay but really could have done with rentals for all 386 Pokemon - I never use the rentals in Pokemon Stadium as an adult, but I did as a kid and I would have enjoyed the game 10 times more if there were rentals for the Colosseum modes. Having to connect your GBA and specifically have your Pokemon at level 50 or level 100 is an annoying stipulation, otherwise you just have to use your non-Gen 3 Pokemon from the story mode.

The whole game was a bit of a clusterfuck, however it was still alright so I give it a 6/10 overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:05:26 No.49285695 Report

Quoted By: >>49285737 >>49286465

>>49285197
Because the developers actually tried with their battles.
There's a reason why people still mention Evice, despite being in one game only that has and never will see a remake/port and no one talks about Diantha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:09:31 No.49285737 Report

Quoted By: >>49285811

>>49285695

I had to look up who that even is.
No offense, but do people actually consider this game to be hard? I steamrolled it as a kid and trying it out fairly recently was even easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:12:37 No.49285765 Report

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>>49285513
Well, of course it has no culture. It’s based off of the USA

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:13:33 No.49285776 Report

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>>49285513
>no culture
Large focus on Colosseum battles
>no myths
Everything to do with Celebi and its unique interaction with the region
There's very little but to say there's none is disingenuous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:14:40 No.49285787 Report

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>>49285197
I also recall this shit being strangely difficult for a pokemon game? Like that level 40 shadow entei when at best your team was in the low 30s at the time because the rest of that guy's mons were 33-35

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:15:30 No.49285796 Report

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Also, Miror B. is the best character ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:16:52 No.49285811 Report

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>>49285737
It’s contrarianism/autism over Swsh. Both shadow games are bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:16:53 No.49285812 Report

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It had random team battles which I played a shit ton of. Not everyone had an n64

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:20:15 No.49285840 Report

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So this is the bait we're going for today? You retards will be back to making Gen 5 threads within a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:22:59 No.49285864 Report

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>>49285197
It caters to /vp/'s fantasy of having a cute girls unconditionally simping for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:24:15 No.49285876 Report

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It was a fun spinoff to that allowed me to use misdreavus a lot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:29:12 No.49285914 Report

Quoted By: >>49285938

The Orre games are kino based on the character designs alone.
Nascour, Miror B, Wes, they just look extremely unique for Pokemon and when combined with the world design makes for a very unique Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:30:47 No.49285927 Report

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>>49285566
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 20:32:06 No.49285938 Report

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>>49285914
His theme slaps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:02:04 No.49286241 Report

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>>49285197
>Why do people like this game?
It was fun
>b-but look at these “objective” criticisms!
It was fun
>th-that’s just NUHSTAHLJUH!!
It was fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:05:35 No.49286287 Report

Quoted By: >>49286303

>>49285197
>Only offers double battles
XD >>>>>>>> mainline

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:07:00 No.49286303 Report

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>>49286287
>XD
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:21:32 No.49286465 Report

Quoted By: >>49286522

>>49285695
The last time Evice was mentioned on this board was nearly a month ago. Diantha is talked about a lot more than that.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Jan 2022 21:26:45 No.49286522 Report

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>>49286465
>When Evice is mentioned, it's typically talking about him in a positive light
>When Dantha is mentioned, it's typically taking about her in a negative light.
And yet, Diantha being infinitely more relevant than Evice ever could be, can't seem to get positive reception. Even coomers seldom talk about her.

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