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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:06:24 No.49300309 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49300321 >>49300338 >>49300345 >>49300351 >>49300443

Why didn't the let her be playable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:08:06 No.49300321 Report

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>>49300309
Incineroar was a better fit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:12:32 No.49300337 Report

Quoted By: >>49300356 >>49300519 >>49300567 >>49300671

Sakurai vastly prefers humanoids. Even fucking Ridley was redesigned to have a more humanoid torso when becoming a playable character. Characters like Ivysaur would've never happened if Sakurai wasn't committed to a theme or gimmick.

The business reason is because TPC and GameFreak were pushing Incineroar heavily and were certainly leaning Sakurai towards picking him over any other candidate. Incineroar would also be significantly easier to make because they have such a simple, generic moveset.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:13:11 No.49300338 Report

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>>49300309
>her

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:15:05 No.49300345 Report

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>>49300309
CHARIZARD is scared of ghosts.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:16:10 No.49300351 Report

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>>49300309
Because it's a boring pick.

>haha le pikachu #3 that...le scratches things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:16:41 No.49300356 Report

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>>49300337
>Characters like Ivysaur would've never happened if Sakurai wasn't committed to a theme or gimmick.
Ivysaur happened because the vines gave a perfect excuse for the character to be able to grab onto ledges, hold and throw items, using shooting items like the Staff and Ray Gun, etc. Most Pokemon are completely invalidated based on that criteria alone.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:26:18 No.49300422 Report

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>>49300356
No, they were added because Sakurai wanted to represent the Kanto starters as a whole with Pokemon Trainer and decided stage 1, stage 2, and stage 3 Pokemon would make a fun theme. Upon deciding Squirtle over Blastoise, and Charizard obviously would be the final form rep, Ivysaur was the choice for mid stage by elimination.

Hundreds of Pokemon have vines and both Bulbasaur and Venusaur are more popular than Ivysaur. Ivysaur was absolutely only picked because of a gimmick/theme

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:31:03 No.49300443 Report

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>>49300309
I fucking wish

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:33:42 No.49300454 Report

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>>49300422
I'm not saying that that was the only reason, just that it's the main reason it was put into consideration.
also
>Hundreds of Pokemon have vines
Only 11 lines in total learn the move that's the telltale sign of prehensile vines, Vine Whip (and about half of those are bipedal with proper hands/ appendages that can grab anyways). Pretty much every quadruped is off the table outside of the ones that fall into the aforementioned group and MAYBE Suicune if they go the Pokken route, outside of that, they're unfeasible without a massive amount of cartoonish anthropomorphisation ala Duck Hunt, which pretty much no Pokemon lends themselves to well. It's one of the main reasons that the bandwagon behind any Lycanroc form bar Midnight pre-release was laughable.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:42:09 No.49300519 Report

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>>49300337
>>49300356
>>49300454
Pikachu uses their mouth for a lot of the grabbing and their stubby arms for anything else. Quadrupeds and other non-humanoids can absolutely work in Smash, Sakurai just prefers the furries because they have easily readable human poses

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:45:07 No.49300547 Report

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>>49300519
>Pikachu uses their mouth for a lot of the grabbing and their stubby arms for anything else
The Pichu line are a facultative bipeds, they have no problems using their forelimbs as hands and have been shown to do so in every piece of media they've been in. I'm talking about stuff like Lycanroc Dusk/Midday, Luxray, Persian, etc.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:46:13 No.49300554 Report

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>>49300519
Pikachu literally stands on their hindlegs most of the time

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:48:09 No.49300567 Report

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>>49300337
>TPC and GameFreak were pushing Incineroar heavily
>>49300519
>Sakurai just prefers the furries because they have easily readable human poses

Quit your conspiracy bullshit. Sakurai put out a column explaining that Pokemon had a slot saved for Ultimate and chose Incineroar because pro-wrestling was the only big fighting style still not in Smash yet and because he's an old-school NJPW fan. You can see this in Suplex Kirby previous.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 03:58:15 No.49300644 Report

Quoted By: >>49300671 >>49300689 >>49300783

>>49300567
It wasn't that pro-wrestling wasn't the only big missing fighting style absent (a stupid claim btw, theres no sumo character in Smash yet is there?), Sakurai specifically said they wanted to try making a pro-wrestling character once.

But obviously there's plenty of other Pokemon who could service that role, even the likes of Machoke/Machamp. They chose Incineroar because thats what TPC wanted to promote (the same group supposedly able to prevent true shiny alts). There's no reason why to assume they WOULDN'T have influenced the decision making process

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:02:10 No.49300671 Report

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>>49300644
anon, TPC has no power over Sakurai on which character he puts in Smash.
>bodybuilder
>a wrestler
retard
>>49300337
>The business reason is because TPC and GameFreak were pushing Incineroar heavily
yeah remember when he was in the anime for like four episodes and nothing else unlike Mimikyu, Rowlet and Togedemaru? What a shillmon!

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:04:26 No.49300685 Report

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>>49300671
It's fucking hilarious how people push the "Incineroar is pushed" narrative when they have already mons ready to roll out as the prime merchandise drivers. It's fucking twisted.
>Why is this actual shillmon not in Smash? Why is this not-shillmon-but-I-perceive-is-such being shilled?!

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:05:07 No.49300689 Report

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>>49300644
>theres no sumo character in Smash yet is there?)
K Rook has sumo incorporated into his moveset but no one with sumo as their whole identity

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:06:51 No.49300701 Report

Quoted By: >>49300765 >>49301158

>>49300671
Considering they can force him to keep a slot open for a Pokemon, I think they do

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:10:13 No.49300731 Report

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>>49300685
They put that fucking hideous TemTem cat as the prime rival in the big anniversary movie, he was absolutely shilled

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:16:51 No.49300765 Report

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>>49300701
anon, the first game literally has two pokemon characters along with mario. pokemon and mario always get new characters in smash. this is like claiming you are forced to have two arms when you are born. you misread the column about having SM in the roster

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:18:05 No.49300773 Report

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>>49300731
this is your brain on only knowing the gif
almost every pokemon movie feature the final evos of every starter. if anything, the director of this film is retarded not to include the others. incineroar was even barely in the film and doesn't even act properly

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:19:15 No.49300783 Report

Quoted By: >>49300804

>>49300689
>>49300644
smash is a sumo game

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:19:22 No.49300785 Report

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>>49300765
nothing you said in that whole message has correlation

impressive

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:20:20 No.49300792 Report

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>>49300785
let me spell it out for you
pokemon is intrinsically part of smash like mario in its conception

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:21:32 No.49300804 Report

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>>49300783
lol

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:23:11 No.49300824 Report

Quoted By: >>49300905

I see /vp/ has people who rather believe in their fantasies than what's officially documented. This place really feels like /v/'s retarded younger sibling.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:33:53 No.49300905 Report

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>>49300824
>a literal offshoot of /v/ based around the the silver spooniest of franchises
Yeah, you're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 04:49:57 No.49300989 Report

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>>49300765
>pokemon and mario *always get new characters in smash.
*Unless it's DLC

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 05:05:57 No.49301084 Report

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>>49300731
>They put that fucking hideous TemTem cat as the prime rival
>I didn't watch the movie
He was an equivalent to a fucking grunt in the movie, wasn't even mentioned again once Cross pulled out his Lycanroc.
In fact most of the shit he did in the movie looked like they swapped Lycanroc for Incineroar at the last minute for no reason.

Next you'll tell me Suiren's Primarina is aggressively marketed because she debuted first and had the most screen time+episode count.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 05:13:49 No.49301158 Report

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>>49300701
>Considering they can force him to keep a slot open
Considering they prioritize Fire Emblem over Pokemon 3 times and skipped generations before, no they can't.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 08:22:23 No.49302290 Report

Quoted By: >>49302692

>>49300989
I honestly don't consider Mewtwo and PP "DLC" with how they're handled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 09:33:31 No.49302692 Report

Quoted By: >>49302707

>>49302290
Of course not, they're "individual fighters".
Noticed how each time we gotten an offer its always throws in some left over base game content as a bonus, but never something normal like the other Nintendo DLC?

Cinderace fags learn this fact the hard way, big 1st party series weren't getting any thing.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Jan 2022 09:36:28 No.49302707 Report

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>>49302692
oh wait you mean DLC pack, that's a given because it's not Sakurai picking. And yeah cinderfag had no chance since TPC is busy shilling on other methods.
Makes me wonder which mons he like in Gen 8.

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