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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 19:40:04 No.49544758 View View Reply Original Report

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I am very curious how Home integration is going to work with LoA from a collection stand point.

Will the fact that Giratina doesn't need to hold his item mean we can finally have Shadow Form Giratina saved?

Will the Alpha Pokémon carry over into it, or will we get a form page for Alpha versions in the Dex?

I'd really like a heads up on how much I should be collecting.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 20:21:47 No.49545152 Report

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>>49544758
>LoA

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 20:36:27 No.49545308 Report

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>>49544758
>Shadow Form

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:05:22 No.49545576 Report

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>>49544758
We have no idea yet and likely won't be able to answer these questions until the integration is out. I could just see the Creation Trio reverting forms whenever they're put in Home. Absolutely no idea on Alpha Pokémon. Totems were notably reverted in size when transferred from Gen VII, but this game lets you have any non-Legendary as an Alpha. That may be a bit too much to entirely lock out.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:08:34 No.49545611 Report

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>>49544758
>Will the fact that Giratina doesn't need to hold his item mean we can finally have Shadow Form Giratina saved?
Maybe. They recently put out an update to allow Furfrou's different forms since it could finally have them in boxes in Go. Box did the same for Hoopa in gen 7.
>Will the Alpha Pokémon carry over into it, or will we get a form page for Alpha versions in the Dex?
Honestly probably not. When you transfer Totem pokemon to Home they just turned normal and didn't have a different dex page for them either. Obviously we don't know officially yet but my guess is the same thing will happen unless they continue to have Alpha pokemon in gen 9.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:16:11 No.49545675 Report

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>>49544758
>Will the fact that Giratina doesn't need to hold his item mean we can finally have Shadow Form Giratina saved?

No, that's probably something to accomodate to PLA.
It'll probably be like Genesect from Go which returns to its normal form when you transfer it from there.

>Will the Alpha Pokémon carry over into it, or will we get a form page for Alpha versions in the Dex?
Very unlikely as its not the case in PLA already.

>I'd really like a heads up on how much I should be collecting.
Other than species themselves, the shinies if you wnant.

>>49545576
Its actually one of the few questions that can be answered because we have precedent.
>Totems were notably reverted in size when transferred from Gen VII, but this game lets you have any non-Legendary as an Alpha. That may be a bit too much to entirely lock out.
You're literally ignoring the exact same preceden you brought up.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:18:10 No.49545694 Report

Quoted By: >>49545748 >>49545850 >>49546208

Is it possible to play PLA and only catch new Pokemon? I figure I'll have to play PLA eventually to complete my living dex, but everything I've seen makes it look so grindy. I don't want to waste hours catching a hundred bidoofs just to be able to catch one of the dozen new Pokemon or regional formes.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:23:23 No.49545748 Report

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>>49545694
No, though if you're not interested in Arceus you can skip it(that actually requires 100% the dex)
but you have to get to enamorus and, to get there, you have to win the plotline and a post-game quest so WILL have to go through a few older mons at times.
You WONT have to grind nearly as much as most people though.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:24:11 No.49545754 Report

Quoted By: >>49546123 >>49546192 >>49546213

What I want to know is how movesets will be handled. Since PLA lets your Pokemon have access to a bank of moves that can be swapped at any time, will Home be updated to save those moves? Or will they only keep the four that they have learned? This could be a deciding factor in whether or not this feature remains in Gen 9.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:25:39 No.49545766 Report

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>LoA

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:28:34 No.49545793 Report

Quoted By: >>49546117

It will go like this:

>Pokémon moved in and out of PLA get the green HOME ball we’ve seen in the leaks/trailers

>Alpha Pokémon get instantly reverted to normal sized Pokémon like the ones from LGPE/Totems were

>Any forms based on items are reverted and need to be unlocked in whatever game they get sent to

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:31:45 No.49545825 Report

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>>49544758
I hope they keep their poke ball I also love their icon the most.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:32:17 No.49545829 Report

Quoted By: >>49545849 >>49545865 >>49546123 >>49546130 >>49546272

All of the Pokemon in home display a height and weight already which was likely ported over from Go.

I'm sure they'll keep the size but maybe not the status. So if future games look at the size, they'll still be big/small.

Probably anything going in and out will have that green Home ball since they wouldn't have modern balls in PLA and they likely wont keep the ancient balls in future games.

Forms will just revert except maybe not Enamorus.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:33:55 No.49545849 Report

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>>49545829
They have the best balls

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:33:59 No.49545850 Report

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>>49545694
No. You'll need to progress through the game to get access to the areas where all of them are, and certain ones can be extremely inconvenient if you don't capture them as soon as you see them/have the right items at the time.

You wont have to do all the dex stuff but some Pokemon like Basculin's two new forms will require a bit of grind outside of any story stuff.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:35:49 No.49545865 Report

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>>49545829
The ones from LGPE get converted when moved to SWSH, the same thing will happen to alphas. Home doesn't save their size once outside

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:54:41 No.49546044 Report

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>>49544758
>Will the Alpha Pokémon carry over into it, or will we get a form page for Alpha versions in the Dex?
I really hope not. I have try to keep an autism tier living dex including all forms along with shinies of all forms to the best of my ability. Hunting for all shiny alphas might break me. Not to mentioned that's a another 500+ spots filled from just alphas and shiny alphas.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 21:58:27 No.49546071 Report

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>>49545611
>They recently put out an update to allow Furfrou's different forms since it could finally have them in boxes in Go. Box did the same for Hoopa in gen 7.
So you can have Furfrou forms and Hoopa's djinn form in Home?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:04:46 No.49546117 Report

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>>49545793
lgpe pokemon don't lose their size though

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:05:40 No.49546123 Report

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>>49545754
Eh, its not impossible, but its more manageable to have each mon be a predictable size(4 moves max), specially since with TMs, tutors, eggs and so on a mon can have a fuckton of potential moves in the traditional games.

I don't see it happening, at most I see them warning you that it'll only have the 4 moves it currently has.

>>49545829
>they likely wont keep the ancient balls in future games
they kept some more specific shit

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:06:27 No.49546130 Report

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>>49545829
It wouldn't surprise me if they kept the status. 255 size is probably an alpha.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:06:42 No.49546131 Report

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>>49546071
Furfrou yeah. Not sure about Hoopa.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:07:31 No.49546137 Report

Quoted By: >>49546145 >>49546177

im most interested in what ability's they'll have when they leave home, i hope its not hidden abilities like the VC games because those cant be fixed with an item.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:08:21 No.49546145 Report

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>>49546137
VC transfers have their hidden abilities specifically to avoid Machamp having access to No Guard Fissure.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:09:14 No.49546155 Report

Quoted By: >>49546187 >>49546195

The difference with alpha Pokemon is that they actually have a unique marking Where other size differences didnt have one. So they're already a lot more legitimized it's pretty up in the air if they will persist through home or not and it could be a case that they would get converted only when transferred to another game but could still stay alpha in home and transfer in and out of PLA

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:12:07 No.49546177 Report

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>>49546137
>ability patch

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:12:58 No.49546187 Report

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>>49546155
Is it possible for a non-alpha Pokemon to have the exact same height as an alpha? It's most likely not even a flag on the Pokemon data, rather it's an ingame threshold.
>>49546177
Doesn't change from the hidden ability, only to it.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:13:23 No.49546192 Report

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>>49545754
That's been a feature since gen 6. Pokemon internally store a list of nearly every move they've known (level-up moves, egg moves, event moves, TR moves, ect) with a few exceptions (like TM moves, because what's the point?). You can go to the move relearner to relearn any of these moves. PLA just cuts out the move relearner.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:13:49 No.49546195 Report

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>>49546155
Since alphas have fixed size and weight they may just check that when it transfers. Also I think Alphas will probably get a special mark.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:14:50 No.49546208 Report

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>>49545694
The whole "catching 100 Bidoof" is just a meme.
To complete a Pokedex page you'll have to do certain tasks. Catching multiple mons of the same species is one of them. But you can also defeat them, or use their signature move multiple times.
Filling a Pokedex page is not as grindy as what whiners on vp say. It can be done in 5 to 10 minutes.
That being said, you won't have to fill Pokedex pages to progress through the scenario. So, if it's your major concern about buying the game, you can forget it.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:15:42 No.49546213 Report

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>>49545754
Why would it be different than how it's currently handled? Those moves are just relearn moves, which all Pokémon have. PLA just makes it easier to access them than older games.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:16:32 No.49546216 Report

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>>49544758
My guess is they keep their stats or form but cannot be transferred to anything else other than Home and PLA.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:23:38 No.49546272 Report

Quoted By: >>49546292

>>49545829
>they likely wont keep the ancient balls in future games
They kept the fucking dream ball even though it was a hyper-specific thing until gen 8. I don't see the wooden Pokeballs getting removed, just by merit of being cool-looking.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:25:42 No.49546288 Report

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>>49546145
source?
>>49546192
> Pokemon internally store a list of nearly every move they've known (level-up moves, egg moves, event moves, TR moves, ect
Huh? I didn't know this
>like TM moves, because what's the point?
TMs change every game and they're back to single use in BDSP so there absolutely is a point to it.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:25:59 No.49546292 Report

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>>49546272
dream ball is just a texture on the normal ball model, legends balls require different models

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:26:45 No.49546303 Report

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>>49546131
Fuck. Gotta make room for them and start hunting.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:27:14 No.49546305 Report

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>>49546288
>source
The fact that no other transfers force hidden abilities.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:28:01 No.49546311 Report

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>>49546303
Eh, just wait for it to be rotated back and you'll be able to do it with one.
>>49546305
That doesn't mean it was for Machamp.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:32:07 No.49546342 Report

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>>49546292
They also had to implement the "dream smoke" effect in every game that used the Dream Ball, so it would have been easy to just revert them into normal Pokeballs.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:41:59 No.49546424 Report

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>>49546192
>>49546213
I didn't realize it was currently handled that way already. That's good news.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:57:55 No.49546557 Report

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>>49546117
They do when put into games that dont scale mons, so putting them in BDSP or SWSH will have the converted to normal mons and HOME doesnt restore them

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