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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:28:12 No.49546314 View View Reply Original Report

Do you believe Pokémon designs have worsened? If so, when do you the decline started?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:32:02 No.49546341 Report

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there was a noticeable change in gen 2 to more rounded shapes, then again in gen 3 to more vibrant colours and patterns. gen 4 and 5 cemented the numon look of narrow waists, joints, spikes, accessories, and those features become more exaggerated with each generation since then. kids still eat it up, so whatever it's worse depends on your metrics and personal tastes, i guess. kids prefer cinderace to nidoking. i personally prefer gen 1, and have no pokemon i love beyond gen 3.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:34:08 No.49546355 Report

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Gen 3 is a hard break from the previous 2 gens for me. Also the low point of the series. 4 was a step in the right direction but still not great.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:34:32 No.49546356 Report

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Designs improved.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:34:34 No.49546357 Report

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>>49546314
Gens 1-3 are fairly consistent. A few stinkers here and there, but mostly solid monster design. Gen 4 is when mediocre/bad designs started becoming significantly more common. It's gotten much worse since then.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:35:10 No.49546361 Report

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>>49546314
>If so, when do you the decline started?
4 when they started putting pointless spikes on everything and ran out of ideas for the starters so they made all three of them just generic animals but with overdesigned shit slapped all over them.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:35:53 No.49546370 Report

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Gen 5 was the first time I found myself actively disliking designs instead of just "this doesnt appeal to me but I can live with it"

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:42:37 No.49546431 Report

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>>49546314
Yes. First decline was with Gen 3.
Then again in Gen 5.
Gen 6 was the first to be more bad than good.
By Gen 8 it's almost all trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:44:13 No.49546439 Report

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I don't think they've gotten necessarily worse, just more "extreme". Newer gens will give me tons of favourites but also least favourites at the same time.
Galar, however, is an exception and has godawful fucking designs as a whole.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:44:23 No.49546440 Report

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Only improves in odd-numbered gens. Even numbers have been noticeably worse games overall.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:47:48 No.49546462 Report

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I really don't mind much from the first 5 generations. I think they'd all rank a B or higher. Kalos is when I first felt like "wow, I'm really not into these guys." Alola was honestly pretty good thanks to it's wonderful theming. They really went all the way with the tropical theme with most designs and the Dex has so much personality because of it, one of my favorite regional dexes in the series. Galar was again a lot like Kalos, fervently mediocre with a few highlights. I've honestly never disliked the starter Pokemon in a game, but WOW the Galar starters are terrible.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:52:21 No.49546499 Report

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It is undeniable that Pokemon design philosophy has changed over the years. I wouldn't say it got better or worse though, just different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Feb 2022 22:52:38 No.49546501 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 3 brought a big shift in design philosophy, as gen 2 was made with scraps that didn't make it into gen 1. Gen 4 continued down that path with worse designs. I'd say gen 5 really solidified modern pokemon design philosophy.
So the downfall started in gen 3 but didn't get bad until 4 on, but you could say that about most aspects of this series.
Having said that, Gen 6 and 7 had pretty strong lineups outside of the starters and there's good designs in every gen.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:30:34 No.49547806 Report

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>>49546314
Yes. First signs were the mega forms in gen 6, then it progressed with ultrabeats and tapus in gen 7, spread to regular pokemon designs in SwSh, peaked in PLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:36:10 No.49547860 Report

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Designs go up and down throughout the franchise I think
I hate Inteleon but gen 8 has a lot of designs I really like (Grimmsnarl, Flapple, and Indeedee are favorites now)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:37:55 No.49547882 Report

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>>49547860
You have bad taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:38:31 No.49547890 Report

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>>49547860
>hates Inteleon but likes Shitsnarl
Awful taste. I bet you enjoy sucking dicks, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:39:04 No.49547894 Report

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>>49546314
Sixth gen had a bunch of crappy designs like the new Fairies (Florges, Aromatisse, Slurpuff) and the Megas but still had plenty of good ones like Aegislash and Noivern
Seventh gen was where it all went down hill where they just started making fuckin cereal box mascots, blatant fetishbait, and cartoon characters instead of cartoon monsters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:45:58 No.49547950 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 4 was when the decline started, gen 5 was the lowest point, and then gen 6-8 have been only slightly better than gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:54:54 No.49548035 Report

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>>49546314
There's a wider variety, but by my personal taste, I've gone from liking almost every -mon introduced each generation, to only liking a handful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:56:31 No.49548045 Report

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>>49547882
>>49547890
>hating a sexy goblin man
Sad

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:57:20 No.49548053 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 3 is when the decline started. Everything got 'nintendoified' and rounded and made for toddlers. Gen 7 is when the designs started reaching new lows though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:58:16 No.49548059 Report

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>>49548045
>Implying it's Grimmsnarl that is the bad one
Flapple is one of the shittiest designs ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:58:23 No.49548062 Report

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>>49548053
Araquanid is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:58:27 No.49548063 Report

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>>49548045
Fairies shouldn't be masculine. Masculinity is cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:59:02 No.49548068 Report

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one thing that interests me about the "not every pokemon is in every game" thing is like, will the bad designs just slowly be quietly excluded from the games? like will Inteleon and Eiscue just never be seen again?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:59:10 No.49548070 Report

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>>49548053
Why didn't you post a bad design?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:59:37 No.49548074 Report

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>>49548062
>>49548070
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. To me it and its prevo are some of the most putrid designs in the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 01:59:52 No.49548077 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 4 when they put a literal inflation fetishist in charge of the designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:00:41 No.49548091 Report

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>>49548059
>hating a little gecko that lives in an apple
Sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:00:44 No.49548092 Report

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>>49548068
Eiscue is so retarded it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:00:55 No.49548095 Report

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>>49547860
Exactly my opinion
>flapple
Based

Yeah a lot of designs like grimsnarl too I like but it depends on the Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:01:19 No.49548098 Report

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>>49546314
Overall no, but the starter designs overall since gen 5 are pretty bad. Greninja, Samurott, Decidueye are the only ones in those 4 generations of pokemon that aren't bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:01:45 No.49548104 Report

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>>49548068
Inteleon is too popular in Japan to be excluded from games forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:01:53 No.49548106 Report

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>>49548077
The Gen 4 cross gen evos are a definitely low point

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:22:55 No.49548333 Report

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>>49548106
>>49548077
What's so wrong with them? the only ones i'm not too crazy about is Probopass, Togekiss, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, and Ambipom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:24:58 No.49548351 Report

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Since gen 4. Gen 6 being the lowest point and 8 barely above that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 02:26:18 No.49548366 Report

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>>49546314
Damn designs like that and Sneasler are the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 03:08:57 No.49548718 Report

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>>49546314
I would say there was maybe a general decline starting in gen 6, but there have always been good designs and bad designs. There's plenty of cool Pokémon and plenty of ugly Pokémon to be found in each region

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:18:27 No.49549342 Report

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>>49546314
Started? Gen 1 had some stinkers
Things accelerated in gen 5 though, maybe some of the gen 4 evos too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:27:17 No.49549419 Report

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I think there are good designs and bad designs in every generation but I do believe they gradually get more bad than good starting at gen 3 and being at it's worst when gen 7 hits when they started getting scared of Yokai Watch and started aping it by making pokemon who's designs were "Funny"

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:28:17 No.49549431 Report

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>>49546314
Mr Mime was gen 1

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:30:55 No.49549462 Report

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>>49546314
Eh, not that much. Every generation has great and terrible designs, although I will say Gen VIII has ranked on the lower end for me. Think what's really changed is the art style, and that has turned some people off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:34:44 No.49549491 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 3 starts to break away and 4-7 pretty gradually continues changes in general design philosophy. The UBs are particular exception since they are deliberately made to feel like designs alien to Pokémon. Gen 8 is a more jarring shift than Gen 3 or 5. I think Gen 8 represents a shift toward near self-sabotage with designs. 3 and 5 I could recognize as different, 8 is the first time I see it as different and bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:39:46 No.49549524 Report

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>>49546314
First two gens designs are perfect pocket monsters, they're all recognizable for the same design. Gen 3 was the first time I cringed at a Pokemon with Loudred, still it was consistent and the designs were kind of mysterious with the Regis for example. Gen 4 was more of the same but every pokemon went to a more cartoonish style and the designs were changing as well. Pikachu being the more known example. Gen 5 mons suffer for this cartoonish style too. Everything after is shit.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 04:59:45 No.49549678 Report

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>>49549524
>first two gens are perfect pocket monsters

Lol you’re so funny

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 05:06:55 No.49549746 Report

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Right about here.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 05:22:07 No.49549862 Report

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>>49548068
Surprisingly they don't seem to be doing this so far. SWSH includes a lot of shitmons but doesn't even have Greninja.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 05:53:07 No.49550134 Report

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>>49546314
probably with gen 4 but it wasn't really that bad until gen 8 hit desu. although every gen has its stinkers really, gen 1 and 2 had a lot of literally my mom's animal, which isn't a whole lot better than the literal fursuits we're gettin now.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 06:23:23 No.49550369 Report

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>>49546314
Gen 4

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 06:25:27 No.49550382 Report

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1=2>3=4>6>5>7>8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 06:31:16 No.49550409 Report

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Smells like Johtofag in here

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Anonymous Sat 05 Feb 2022 06:37:18 No.49550456 Report

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Gen 4 is one of the worst design wise since there were so many ugly/shitty evolutions. But I liked gen 5 a lot. I'd say by 6 and onward I just stopped caring (except Snom bc Snom is kino)

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