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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:29:54 No.49794086 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49794140 >>49794180 >>49794230 >>49794263 >>49794289 >>49794330 >>49794333 >>49794344 >>49794493 >>49795255 >>49795286 >>49795325 >>49795687 >>49796493 >>49796616

thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:31:01 No.49794112 Report

Quoted By: >>49794194 >>49794473

Johto is Grass or Fire, Sinnoh is Ice, Unova is Electric.

Other than that, I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:31:03 No.49794115 Report

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Ice type are forever fucked man..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:32:31 No.49794140 Report

Quoted By: >>49795561

>>49794086
I don't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:32:45 No.49794146 Report

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Johor and Sinnoh dont make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:34:43 No.49794174 Report

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Well, explain your logic. Did you count Rotom forms as individual Pokemon? Sinnoh seems more suited to be Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:35:13 No.49794180 Report

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>>49794086
kinda ironic that johto has no dark type pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:36:01 No.49794194 Report

Quoted By: >>49794222 >>49794473

>>49794112
>scolipede
>crustle
>galvantula
>escavalier
>accelgor
>volcarona
>genesect
nah gen 5 was the kindest to bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:38:10 No.49794222 Report

Quoted By: >>49794497

>>49794194
Doesn't matter. Electric fits Unova thematically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:38:56 No.49794230 Report

Quoted By: >>49794348 >>49795783

>>49794086
To me...
>Kanto
Poison (so many Poison types)
>Johto
Normal (first mons that come to mind are all Normal types)
>Hoenn
Water (self-explanatory)
>Sinnoh
Ice (cold region, especially in Platinum)
>Unova
Dragon (original dragon, Dragonspiral Tower), but Bug is a close second
>Kalos
Fairy (self-explanatory)
>Alola
Electric (I think of the yellow fields of flowers with Pom-pom Oricorio, Tapu Koko, and Xurkitree)
>Galar
Steel (Crowned box mascots, swords/shields in general)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:42:03 No.49794263 Report

Quoted By: >>49794314

>>49794086
How is Sinnoh Electric instead of Ice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:44:36 No.49794289 Report

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>>49794086
Explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:46:26 No.49794314 Report

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>>49794263
Doesn't Sinnoh have a surprisingly small amount of ice types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:47:15 No.49794330 Report

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>>49794086
How is Johto Dark though
the rest seems accurate, idrk about Sinnoh either, it doesn't have a type that stands out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:47:27 No.49794333 Report

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>>49794086
>Kanto:Poison
>Johto:Normal
>Hoenn:Water
>Sinnoh:Ground?
>Unova:Bug
>Kalos:Fairy
>Alola:Ghost or Dark
>Galar:Dragon or Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:48:13 No.49794344 Report

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>>49794086
for me it's
>kanto poison
>johto bug
>hoenn water
>sinnoh ice
>unova dragon
>kalos electric
>alola water again go fuck yourself
>galar normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:48:28 No.49794348 Report

Quoted By: >>49795783

>>49794230
I agree with this except Alola should still be ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:48:30 No.49794349 Report

Quoted By: >>49794369 >>49794375

Sinnoh has 15 electric Mons (20 if you count Rotom forms)
It has 11 ice mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:50:17 No.49794369 Report

Quoted By: >>49794456

>>49794349
sure, but the region's clear theme is "cold", given it's based on Hokkaido

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:50:32 No.49794375 Report

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>>49794349
Adding to this is also has 15 Poison and 37 water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:56:24 No.49794456 Report

Quoted By: >>49794527

>>49794369
Nah it's past and future. Advanced cities and quaint towns

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:57:50 No.49794473 Report

Quoted By: >>49794624 >>49795018 >>49795805

>>49794194
>>49794112
Unova added
>7 Ice types (10 if you count all 3 Kyurem forms)
>7 Poison types
>9 Dragon types (11 if you count all 3 Kyurem forms)
>9 Ghost types
>10 Electric types (11 if you count both Thundurus forms as separate Pokemon)
>10 Rock types
>11 Ground types (12 if you count both Landorus forms as separate Pokemon)
>12 Steel types
>15 Psychic types
>15 Fire types
>15 Fighting types (16 if you count Meloetta's alt form)
>16 Dark types
>17 Water types
>17 Normal types (18 if you count both Meloetta forms as separate Pokemon)
>18 Flying types (21 if you count all 6 Genie forms)
>18 Bug types
>20 Grass types

So Unova should be Grass or Flying depending on if you count Tornadus and Tornadus (forma de
pájaro verde) as different Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:59:22 No.49794493 Report

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>>49794086
>Kanto
Poison (poison types everywhere)
>Johto
Flying (first gym + the type shared by the box legends)
>Hoenn
Water (self explanatory)
>Sinnoh
Ice (the snow areas are basically the first thing people think when they hear about the region)
>Unova
Dragon (the box legendaries)
>Kalos
Fairy (self explanatory)
>Alola
Either Grass (because tropical) or Psychic (box legendaries and it's the type associated with space and aliens)
>Galar
Steel (box legendaries, industrial revolution and swords and shields are usually made of metal)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 20:59:46 No.49794497 Report

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>>49794222
So you didn't get the assignment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:00:50 No.49794508 Report

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All of these are Grass and Water. Thread finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:02:06 No.49794527 Report

Quoted By: >>49794570

>>49794456
>Nah it's past and future. Advanced cities and quaint towns
You could say the same of Johto, Hoenn, Unova, and Galar. Unova specifically has the 2 version differences give you an ancient Opelucid and bucolic White Forest or a futuristic Opelucid and a dreary, futuristic Black City

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:04:45 No.49794570 Report

Quoted By: >>49794587

>>49794527
I said it was Sinnoh though. Therefore that's what it is. My word is canon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:05:56 No.49794587 Report

Quoted By: >>49794801

>>49794570
No, my word is canon. Die bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:08:21 No.49794624 Report

Quoted By: >>49794748

>>49794473
Unova was the kindest to bugs because not only did it provide a big diverse pool of bugs but it was the first gen without abject shitmon bugs like Beautifly, not to mention the addition of Quiver Dance and the first bug legendary.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:17:34 No.49794748 Report

Quoted By: >>49795018 >>49795640

>>49794624
Leavanny is an abject shitmon, though, only saved by the later addition of Sticky Web. Also, Gen 4 was the kindest to bugs due to the physical special split, Bug Buzz, X-scissor, and most importantly THE most used Bug-type, and indeed the most used in the entire game, move U-turn.

Gen 4 salvaged a lot of mediocre Bug-types from prior gens, too, like Scizor and Ninjask, and it had the only Bug-type E4 trainer. Gen 5 might've introduced more and better Bug-types, but Gen 5 also introduced nearly 50% more Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:22:38 No.49794801 Report

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>>49794587

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:41:04 No.49795018 Report

Quoted By: >>49795237

>>49794748
If we're being specific, Gen V was the first gen to not have a fully-evolved bug type that's sub-400 BST. Leavanny is Gen V's worst bug but it's still better than the rest. Ironically Quiver Dance also became a huge asset to the worst bugs, bringing them up a peg. Even if Gen IV added Bug Buzz there was barely anything to abuse it because most bugs had terrible special attack. Quiver Dance would also help things like Venomoth actually take off despite being one of the stronger special bugs. While U-Turn is arguably the most used bug move, it's also the least exclusive to actual bug types.

Not to mention the most damning thing about Gen IV is that it added Stealth Rock, which would haunt Bug type until boots became a thing.

Given your figure >>49794473 it's clear that there was a concerted effort to add lots of bug types. I'm too lazy to do the maths but I'm willing to bet the average BST of bug types skyrocketed between Gens IV and V. Gen V is when decent bug mons started becoming the norm, rather than the exception.

Also how much did Gen 4 really help Ninjask out? Rocks hindered it to the point where it was forced to be a lead and it was still pretty weak with X-Scissor to the point where passing a gimmicky Silver Wind boost was preferential, imo.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:57:08 No.49795237 Report

Quoted By: >>49795366

>>49795018
It doesn't matter what their BST is if they're still a shitmon. BST isn't the be-all end-all of viability, as low BST Pokemon like Smeargle, Diglett, Dugtrio, and etc show. Early game Bug-types being shitmons doesn't mean that early gens were cruel to Bug-types as a whole, nor does Unova adding a bunch of good Bug-types mean it was good for them. In fact, you could argue that Unovan Bug-types muscled out a lot of weaker and struggling Pokemon that filled similar niches in lower tiers. What truly helps Bug-type Pokemon is the addition of new moves and abilities that give a helping hand to the older Pokemon of the type, and Gen 4 is obviously the best Gen in this regard.

>Not to mention the most damning thing about Gen IV is that it added Stealth Rock, which would haunt Bug type until boots became a thing.
Stealth Rock didn't haunt Bugs as much as it necessitated the use of Rapid Spin on teams, which it did. Bug-types still saw solid usage in all tiers of play in Gens 4 - 7, and it also punished Fire and Flying types, the only types that both resisted and are super effective against Bug-types, giving them an easier time punishing and removing persistent threats to the type. It was a double edged sword that more or less left Bug just as viable as before due to putting offensive pressure on the types that preyed on Bug.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 21:58:23 No.49795255 Report

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>>49794086
>Kanto
Normal, is the basic region
>Johto
Flying, a region full of towers rising to the sky, also the fist region when you fly away from the initial kanto
>Hoenn
Water, half of it is water and its story is about rising or lowering the level of the sea
>Sinnoh
Dragon, the region is a legend and its where all begins and also all could end
>Unova
Dark, it got a darker story about breaking bonds between humans and pokemon. Dealing with the light and dark aspects of training pokemon.
>Kalos
Fairy, its pretty and launched the fairy type
>Alola
Psychic, its all about light, cosmical power and connecting with your pokemon
>Galar
Steel, a region with the hardest trainers. Also is a region that can endure any kind of cataclysm like the darkest night.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:00:08 No.49795286 Report

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>>49794086
>Kanto
Normal, is the basic region
>Johto
Flying, a region full of towers rising to the sky, also the fist region when you fly away from the initial kanto
>Hoenn
Water, half of it is water and its story is about rising or lowering the level of the sea
>Sinnoh
Dragon, the region is a legend on it self, where all begins and also all could end
>Unova
Dark, it got a darker story about breaking bonds between humans and pokemon. Dealing with the light and dark aspects of training pokemon.
>Kalos
Fairy, its pretty and launched the fairy type
>Alola
Psychic, its all about light, cosmical power and connecting with your pokemon
>Galar
Steel, a region with the hardest trainers. Also is a region that can endure any kind of cataclysm like the darkest night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:03:29 No.49795325 Report

Quoted By: >>49795458

>>49794086
Sinnoh should be Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:06:10 No.49795366 Report

Quoted By: >>49795425

>>49795237
>Smeargle
>Viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:09:24 No.49795425 Report

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>>49795366
Smeargle got Dark Void nerfed and got baton pass banned in singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:11:06 No.49795458 Report

Quoted By: >>49795662

>>49795325
Pikause... ?

Richard Hammond

Richard Hammond Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:17:00 No.49795561 Report

Quoted By: >>49796039

>>49794140
Which gen introduced the most of a specific time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:21:20 No.49795640 Report

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>>49794748
nobody uses wormadam or mothim. Give leavanny powder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:22:34 No.49795662 Report

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>>49795458
it had a lot of ground types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:23:52 No.49795687 Report

Quoted By: >>49795755

>>49794086
sinnoh is steel, rock or ice. johto is grass. unova is dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:27:54 No.49795755 Report

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>>49795687
why, why and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:29:31 No.49795783 Report

Quoted By: >>49796013

>>49794230
>>49794348
I think Alola should be Psychic myself, it being the type most associated with light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:30:48 No.49795805 Report

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>>49794473
Holy shit, that's a fairly even type distribution!

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Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:42:50 No.49795986 Report

Quoted By: >>49796070

Does anyone have the patience to order each region by their full type prevalences? If I knew more I would. Which region is the *least* fire type, for instance? Galar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:44:45 No.49796013 Report

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>>49795783
Yeah, I considered it, especially with the box legends. Probably a better fit to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:47:01 No.49796039 Report

Quoted By: >>49796425

>>49795561
wrong
my thought process making it is what type got great representation from

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 22:49:15 No.49796070 Report

Quoted By: >>49796444

>>49795986
Sinnoh had literally two fire types before platinum

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:11:16 No.49796425 Report

Quoted By: >>49796573

>>49796039
Then you're a fucking retard because Johto had almost every Dark-Type as post-game, Houndour and Murkrow were in the middle of Kanto, Sneasel was on Mt. Silver (it's only Crystal where it's in Icy Path) and Tyranitar was only available once you got to Mt. Silver to catch Larvitars. Only Umbreon is available before the post-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:12:35 No.49796444 Report

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>>49796070
See this is what I mean, I didn't know that but it makes way more of a statement. Maybe Sinnoh is Ice or maybe it's Grass, but it's definitely un-Fire. Kanto is presumably un-Dark, I wouldn't know the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:16:08 No.49796493 Report

Quoted By: >>49796512

>>49794086
>Empoleon (Starter)
>Wormadam-Trash
>Bronzong
>Bastiodon
>Lucario
>Magnezone
>Probopass
>Dialga (box legendary)
>Heatran (side legendary)
Sinnoh is Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:18:07 No.49796512 Report

Quoted By: >>49796597

>>49796493
shit criteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:22:34 No.49796573 Report

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>>49796425
cool but i didn't ask and I'm not reading that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:23:39 No.49796597 Report

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>>49796512
It's about representation. Cry about it, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Feb 2022 23:24:40 No.49796616 Report

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>>49794086
>Unova
>not dragon

The fuck?

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