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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:31:54 No.49851804 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49851818 >>49852033 >>49852201 >>49854252 >>49854606 >>49854653 >>49855945 >>49855967 >>49856252 >>49858112

>This classic Pokemon has been powercrept into irrelevance! It needs a buff or even an evolution! What can we do?
>I know, let's make regional forms! Well take the original Pokemon, add a moustache or a funny face, and give it new typing and a modern moveset! They can even have their own evolutions!
>But wait, how does that solve the problem? That's just making new Pokemon! The originals are still useless!
>Haha I don't know

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:33:29 No.49851818 Report

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>>49851804
yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:34:34 No.49851824 Report

Quoted By: >>49851829 >>49851834 >>49857237

Nice headcanon, regionals are a fun addition to the universe, not a way to buff Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:35:12 No.49851829 Report

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>>49851824
They aren't this, either. None of it makes sense

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:35:37 No.49851834 Report

Quoted By: >>49854639 >>49855857

>>49851824

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:36:38 No.49851844 Report

Quoted By: >>49852014

How many Pokemon have had cross gen evolutions since Regionals became a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 15:59:15 No.49852014 Report

Quoted By: >>49852027 >>49852166

>>49851844
Just the three that are in Legends. And you could argue that Basculegion technically is not a cross gen since you need a new form to get it. All other evolutions that came out are strictly regional evolutions and can only be found in generation 8 games so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:01:18 No.49852027 Report

Quoted By: >>49852043

>>49852014
>since you need a new form to get it
This might sound like cope from my end but they should retcon the evolution method so that Red Basculin and Blue Basculin can evolve too (in their respective forms)
makes it the only way to get Male Blue and Female Red Basculegion, too

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:01:53 No.49852033 Report

Quoted By: >>49852056

>>49851804
Regional forms are great. But they already came up with the solution for the originals and that's why it's paired alongside them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:03:26 No.49852043 Report

Quoted By: >>49852087 >>49852182 >>49856197

>>49852027
I still don't get why there are split male and female forms for this thing in the first place. Nothing about it implies that's needed. Pretty much every other Pokemon that has that was introduced with it or has something to do with the dawn stone, so I can excuse it. But there is nothing about Basculin to indicate it differs on gender lines. It actually even had a form gimmick that had nothing to do with gender, which is why it's even more confusing. Maybe that's why they made the gender split they could at least get red and blue in there somewhere? It just seems so weird though

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:04:45 No.49852056 Report

Quoted By: >>49852088 >>49852260

>>49852033
I still don't get why we can't have both. Cutting content is always worse than just building on the foundation. I for some reason really thought we would get Mega G-Slowbro. What a fool I was

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:09:35 No.49852087 Report

Quoted By: >>49858826

>>49852043
>I still don't get why there are split male and female forms for this thing in the first place.
I'm pretty sure it's something like you used to get Red in one version and Blue in another one
so when PLA had only one version, they didn't know wtf to do with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:09:39 No.49852088 Report

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>>49852056
cutting content means they can hype up bringing it back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:19:30 No.49852166 Report

Quoted By: >>49852181

>>49852014
Yeah the only ones are Kleavor and Ursaluna, both of which are Item Evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:21:16 No.49852181 Report

Quoted By: >>49852659

>>49852166
Wyrdeer

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:21:18 No.49852182 Report

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>>49852043
>I still don't get why there are split male and female forms for this thing in the first place
to justify it not being in the bw demake of course. please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:21:48 No.49852191 Report

Quoted By: >>49852289

I mean if I was in charge of balance I would rebalance the mons every gen, and add much fewer mons with each gen.
There would be a clear delineation between mons that are strong early, mid, and late game, and gimmick mons, the last two meant for competitive play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:22:44 No.49852201 Report

Quoted By: >>49852664 >>49853171 >>49858789

>>49851804
Except those are all good designs and interesting takes on old pokemon, save Persian which is just ugly and worse liepard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:29:09 No.49852260 Report

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>>49852056
>I for some reason really thought we would get Mega G-Slowbro
We need Mega Slowking first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 16:31:45 No.49852289 Report

Quoted By: >>49854544

>>49852191
It does feel like they try to do this but it just sort of falls together rather than actually being carefully planned. When they went back and added hidden abilities plus buffed stats in Gens 5 and 6, I really thought they were going to try to revamp the games to make everybody viable. I will say that more pokémon felt more viable in generation 5 and 6, but then everybody fell off the wagon again in Alola with power creep and UBs

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 17:09:48 No.49852659 Report

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>>49852181
Oh yeah

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 17:10:19 No.49852664 Report

Quoted By: >>49854272

>>49852201
fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 18:10:54 No.49853171 Report

Quoted By: >>49854272

>>49852201
No they arent

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:08:25 No.49854252 Report

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>>49851804
buffs, retard!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:10:37 No.49854272 Report

Quoted By: >>49854297

>>49852664
>>49853171
>He likes alolan persian

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:13:24 No.49854297 Report

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>>49854272
How did you read that and decide "Alolan Persian is bad" was the part people disagreed with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:41:13 No.49854544 Report

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>>49852289
they dont actually buff older mon's stats meaningfully

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:43:45 No.49854571 Report

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Regional forms aren’t upgrades though, they’re usually still shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:47:14 No.49854606 Report

Quoted By: >>49855931

>>49851804
Why won't they simply nerf stats of those "OP" mons instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:49:38 No.49854639 Report

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>>49851834
Sir fetched is the best regional galar mon amd if it wanst for him i wouldnt know about farfetch you know the pokemon with the only gimmick is muh leek

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 20:50:41 No.49854653 Report

Quoted By: >>49858112

>>49851804
I wish raichu could've just gotten a buff to its defense. Pachirisu has 20 more points in defense despite it being half its size. Most of the other pikaclones have the same defense or more than it does. Raichu has three stages in its line and is bigger. It should be able to take a hit better than them.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 22:35:37 No.49855857 Report

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>>49851834
Should have posted Galarian Farfetch'd. There is no good explanation for it existing instead of making Sir evolve from regular Farfetch'd.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 22:43:29 No.49855931 Report

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>>49854606
same reason they won't buff shitmons
>muh retcon!!!111

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 22:45:36 No.49855945 Report

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>>49851804
I’d rather they get new evolutions like in Sinnoh and Johto. I really enjoyed the additions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 22:49:01 No.49855967 Report

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>>49851804
Normal Raichu and Weezing are superior to the variants though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 23:07:54 No.49856197 Report

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>>49852043
It's based on salmon and IRL salmon have significant sexual dimorphism.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Mar 2022 23:12:32 No.49856252 Report

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>>49851804
My only wish is that they should at least let the originals learn some of the new moves their regionals get. E.g. Galar Darm gets Flare Blitz, why shouldn't Unova Darm get Icicle Crash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 00:15:27 No.49856966 Report

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regional forms are retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 00:38:30 No.49857237 Report

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>>49851824
No they are a hack's way to avoid creating new pokemon with those typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 00:45:20 No.49857320 Report

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regional forms are patrician

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Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 02:03:39 No.49858112 Report

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>>49854653
>>49851804
I know some people love this, but I don't like how they went around and gave certain types unique hidden mechanics mostly around generation 6. It was always nice that fire types couldn't be burned for example, but they went in did other ones that just to me don't make a ton of sense. For example dark types being immune to prankster is strange. Just because they are dark, doesn't imply that they are immune to being tricked. And it completely shuts out the status move instead of just making it normal priority which I find strange. I also don't like that electric types can't be paralyzed. There are moves that cause paralysis that are not electric and I find it really stupid that something like a Pikachu getting body slammed by a Snorlax just can never be paralyzed. That doesn't make sense. Or ghosts being immune to trapping moves even though there are ghost types the aren't actually spectral creatures that could feasibly phase through matter, like decidueye or golurk. And while I'm on it. I think that Steel type should still be able to be poisoned just not by poison moves. They used to be able to be poisoned by twin needle in generation 2 I believe. I want that again

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Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 03:18:59 No.49858789 Report

Quoted By: >>49860274

>>49852201
>Except those are all good designs
Yeah not really

>and interesting takes on old pokemon
Not really
Adding human stuff on an old mon can be "funny" once but when it makes up for half of the regional variants it just becomes cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 03:25:02 No.49858826 Report

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>>49852087
which is also dumb because could have just done what Shellos did and have it differ by location

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Mar 2022 07:44:17 No.49860274 Report

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>>49858789
Nugen designs (both human and pokemon) are trying too hard to be as quirky as possible to generate hype on social media, and sales come after. I
This unfortunately works.

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