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Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:05:35 No.49877422 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49877477 >>49877481 >>49877491 >>49877534 >>49877538 >>49877762 >>49877792 >>49877813 >>49878281 >>49878389 >>49878891 >>49878957 >>49879063 >>49879066 >>49882364 >>49883665 >>49884878 >>49886388 >>49886394

this is the worst ability in the game
>but Defeatist!
>but Truant!
>but Slow Start!
all given to powerful mons to balance them. Hustle just makes average mons like Darumaka or Togetic worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:12:43 No.49877477 Report

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>>49877422
I like it. Would I use it competitively? Probably not, too much risk. But I don't play competitively, so fuck it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:13:21 No.49877481 Report

Quoted By: >>49877534

>>49877422
Just use Aerial Ace lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:13:27 No.49877484 Report

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unlike all of those it's not strictly detrimental though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:14:33 No.49877491 Report

Quoted By: >>49877531

>>49877422
>what is Durant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:20:42 No.49877531 Report

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>>49877491
Durant can force Truant onto other Pokémon which is a lot of fun when it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:21:11 No.49877534 Report

Quoted By: >>49877781

>>49877481
>>49877422
This desu. All they need to do to make this move not shit is to give it to a mon that learns lots of moves like Aerial Ace and Tombstoner. Or make it so it does a flat boost to the base power of the move instead of raising the attack stat, that way users of moves like Magical Leaf and Vacuum Cut can use it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:21:37 No.49877538 Report

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>>49877422
It’s a powerful gamble, I like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:54:30 No.49877762 Report

Quoted By: >>49878283 >>49878294 >>49878460

>>49877422
>all given to powerful mons to balance them
Archeops wouldn't even be very good without Defeatist, having it just makes it total shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:56:19 No.49877781 Report

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>>49877534
>Tombstoner
t. Blaine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:57:03 No.49877786 Report

Quoted By: >>49878262

For Nuzlockes yeah Hustle is one of the worst in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 02:57:23 No.49877792 Report

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>>49877422
this ability got rufflet banned from little cup, just don't miss and it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:00:27 No.49877813 Report

Quoted By: >>49878097

>>49877422
How would Regigigas even be overpowered when things like Zacian, Mega Ray, Primals, Yveltal, Xerneas, Marshadow, and Gundam Zygarde exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:39:11 No.49878097 Report

Quoted By: >>49878274 >>49880346

>>49877813
none of those existed in gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:56:00 No.49878262 Report

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>>49877786
Not even because of in-battle shit. The main issue is grinding with it WILL make you want to kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:57:10 No.49878274 Report

Quoted By: >>49883874

>>49878097
Then maybe they should give it a new form or some shit instead of making it live with stats and ability from 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:57:44 No.49878281 Report

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>>49877422
Skill issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:57:57 No.49878283 Report

Quoted By: >>49882351

>>49877762
>wouldn't even be very good without Defeatist
What makes you say that?
>Fast
>Hits like truck(strongest unboosted Acrobatics)
>Huge movepool
It’s Rampardos but done right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 03:58:54 No.49878294 Report

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>>49877762
It would undeniably be OU or at least UUBL. Borderline pseudo stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 04:02:22 No.49878322 Report

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I love this ability haha. I have a gimmick Gravity team where Hustle Flapple uses Grav Apple, it wrecks shit. Blunder Policy Hustle Dracozolt also amuses me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 04:05:02 No.49878352 Report

Quoted By: >>49880509

>Hustle just makes average mons like Darumaka or Togetic worse.

But Darumaka and Togetic have more than 1 ability to choose from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 04:08:48 No.49878389 Report

Quoted By: >>49886429

>>49877422
>what is hone claws

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 04:16:18 No.49878460 Report

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>>49877762
>Archeops wouldn't even be very good without Defeatist
Yes, but not having Defeatist would mean that Archeops would be better than it is right now. Why is everyone such an absolute doomer on here? And holy absolute fuck if Rock is a doomer magnet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 05:10:22 No.49878891 Report

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>>49877422
sounds like a fun ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 05:18:06 No.49878957 Report

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>>49877422
Mons that actually get a benefit from it do fucking run this even in a competitive environment over "neutral" abilities.
Hustle is actually a decent ability statistically. Just cause you missed a few times doesn't mean its bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 05:30:31 No.49879063 Report

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>>49877422
>he doesn't invest accuracy in his pokemon
ngmi

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 05:31:06 No.49879066 Report

Quoted By: >>49880527 >>49886429

>>49877422
1.5x Attack is insane, Hustle is a very good ability. Durant proved that.
Unreliable/inconsistent? Yeah, without Hone Claws, or 1.1x acc from Wide Lens, or Z-Moves, for sure- but the power is worth it

Dracozolt and Durant both proved that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 10:16:10 No.49880346 Report

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>>49878097
kyogre exists, the other regis exist, fuck it even bibarel exists and does more than regigigas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 11:03:56 No.49880509 Report

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>>49878352
And even then Darumaka's ability is changed to a much better one upon evolving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 11:05:42 No.49880514 Report

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There should be more accuracy-boosting moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 11:09:50 No.49880527 Report

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>>49879066
Dracozolt more as a Sand Rush user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 14:17:01 No.49881496 Report

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I wish there were an early game mon with Hustle, and for a good while it's only attack was Mega Kick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 16:25:04 No.49882351 Report

Quoted By: >>49882519

>>49878283
>huge movepool
It doesn't learn brave bird or any elemental fangs and its most common non-stab attacks are dragon. Its movepool is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 16:26:44 No.49882364 Report

Quoted By: >>49886429

>>49877422
just hone claws lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 16:45:29 No.49882519 Report

Quoted By: >>49882734

>>49882351
Dual Wingbeat is good enough. Its Dragonite's main STAB and is still OU

For physical coverage:
>U-Turn
>Earthquake
>Knock Off
>Aqua Tail(for bulky Ground types)
All solid moves

For special coverage:
>Heat Wave
>Earth Power
>Focus Blast
Can nuke any Steel type it wants(most have worse special defense)

Even gets Defog, Roost, Stealth Rock, and Taunt for support moves. Its versatile as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 16:54:12 No.49882571 Report

Quoted By: >>49885977

Illuminate literally does nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 17:18:30 No.49882734 Report

Quoted By: >>49883579 >>49883832

>>49882519
Dragonite has great bulk and an excellent ability and it has an actually big movepool. Archeops can't do anything to most defensive OU pokemon. Its defenses are too bad to use as support. It would be a solid UU pokemon with a potential spot on some OU teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 19:02:47 No.49883579 Report

Quoted By: >>49884537

>>49882734
Dragonite only ever runs like 6 moves, most of which Archeops gets as well. Archeops is also stronger and faster than Dragonite. It can even run a mixed set if need be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 19:13:56 No.49883665 Report

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>>49877422
>hitting things really hard in exchange for accuracy is worse than literally being unable to use items!
why is /vp/ so low IQ, even among vidya boards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 19:37:14 No.49883832 Report

Quoted By: >>49883913 >>49884537

>>49882734
>Same speed as Dusk Lycanroc but hits as hard as Conkelldurr
>Gets both U-Turn and Knock Off, the most spammable physical moves
>Can pull of a variety of sets, even itemless with Acrobatics(strongest user in the game btw)
Explain how it won't be UUBL at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 19:43:09 No.49883874 Report

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>>49878274
okay well that's not what this thread is about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 19:47:58 No.49883913 Report

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>>49883832
I wish gems still existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 20:55:06 No.49884537 Report

Quoted By: >>49884574

>>49883579
>Dragonite only ever runs like 6 moves
Irrelevant when the discussion is (viable) movepool size. Archeops would end up having several moves be much more commonly run too. You seem like you just use whatever smogon has without thinking.
>>49883832
>Explain how it won't be UUBL at best
I've pretty much already said it could be UUBL at best. I don't think it would be banned from UU in the first place though. The poor movepool and typing hold it back, it's very frail, it doesn't beat most common OU defensive pokemon. What else is there to say? If you guys are so confident it would be OU surely you could give me one set and what its purpose would be.

What set would you run and why would it be used so much that it becomes OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 20:57:44 No.49884574 Report

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>>49884537
What moves are you actually running on Dragonite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 21:33:53 No.49884878 Report

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>>49877422
At least it HAS a positive unlike those abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Mar 2022 23:41:33 No.49885977 Report

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>>49882571
Could have been made into an auto-Flash like how Huge Power could have been an auto-Strength but instead we get tourist rides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 00:31:19 No.49886388 Report

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>>49877422
This ability is actually insanely overpowered in this shit SWSH meta since it still works in dynamax and max moves have no accuracy checks whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 00:32:47 No.49886394 Report

Quoted By: >>49886429

>>49877422
>Literally ANYTHING used Hone Claws!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 00:39:09 No.49886429 Report

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>>49878389
>>49879066
>>49882364
>>49886394
NOT EVERYTHING HAS FUCKING HONE CLAWS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 00:57:29 No.49886549 Report

Quoted By: >>49886560 >>49886681 >>49886718

>Get a wimpod with wimp out ability.
>Seems fitting for the pokemon.
>This must be some magikarp situation where you evolve some weak shit pokemon into a fucking beast
>Evolves into ultrachad kaiju golisopod

>Fucking emergency exit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 00:59:12 No.49886560 Report

Quoted By: >>49886704 >>49886718

>>49886549
OP here, I gotta concede. Emergency Exit is fucking inexcusable.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 01:16:52 No.49886681 Report

Quoted By: >>49886718

>>49886549
This one pisses me off so much it's unreal. What a waste of an absolutely fantastic Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 01:20:13 No.49886704 Report

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>>49886560
It could have some potential if they made it an upgraded form of wimp out, like having it act like u-turn.

But nope, it's an exact clone of wimp out which gives the opponent a free turn skip because golisopod is too fucking slow to make its ability even slightly viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 01:22:35 No.49886718 Report

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>>49886549
>>49886560
>>49886681
Very true.
Imagine if it kept the ability, but you had the option to swap out instead of it being forced. Imagine if you had the option twice (once when its HP hit 50% and again when it hit 33%). It might actually be useful.

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