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What is the most common archetype of Pokemon?

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 17:17:41 No.49891898 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>49892243 >>49892268 >>49892301 >>49892354 >>49893161 >>49893516

I recently heard somebody say they were amazed by the amount of fox pokémon versus everything else, but I'm not totally sure that that's the most common thing. So, what do YOU think is the most common or abundant or even overused archetype in Pokemon?

I'll start:
>Fire monkeys
>Fire monkey starter introduced in gen 4, and then two new fire monkey lines introduced literally one generation later

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 17:18:43 No.49891908 Report

Quoted By: >>49891994

my mom's cats and dogs this shouldn't even be a question

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 17:30:08 No.49891994 Report

Quoted By: >>49892277

>>49891908
At least they try to be interesting from time to time by doing different breeds or ideas. Espurr and the early dogs (Manec, Growlithe, Houndoom) are pretty kino compared to Pokemon like Yamper. I also really hope we don't just get a regional Meowth every game now because that's lazy as fuck. Just bring back pokémon like Glameow and Skitty, considering they never pop up in regional dexes anymore outside remakes

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:04:54 No.49892243 Report

Quoted By: >>49892919

>>49891898
I want to say bugs with the general body shape of a moth or butterfly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:08:17 No.49892268 Report

Quoted By: >>49892919

>>49891898
it has to be normal type regional birds, right? most are 3 stage so there's more than even regional rodents

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:09:21 No.49892277 Report

Quoted By: >>49892892 >>49892919

>>49891994
Skitty popped up in Unova and Kalos to be fair but was weirdly rare in both.

Glameow absolutely. Either a Normal/Ghost regional form or an evo based on the Cheshire Cat or Schrödinger’s cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:09:41 No.49892279 Report

Quoted By: >>49892919

#1 is very obviously birds or rodents.

The route 1 birds alone take us to the top and theres tons more birds than that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:11:33 No.49892301 Report

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>>49891898
Fish Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:17:41 No.49892354 Report

Quoted By: >>49892408 >>49892413 >>49895076

>>49891898
How has no one stated the obvious correct answer?
It's the fucking Pika-clones.
>Marill
>Plusle
>Minun
>Pachirisu
>Emolga
>Dedenne
>Togedemaru
>Morpeko
All with the same beady-eyed face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:21:54 No.49892408 Report

Quoted By: >>49892593

>>49892354
you only really get one pikaclone each gen though
other archetypes can have multiples per gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:22:58 No.49892413 Report

Quoted By: >>49892593

>>49892354
marill
Retard...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 18:41:49 No.49892593 Report

Quoted By: >>49892882

>>49892413
You look this punk in the face and tell me it's not the spitting image of Pikachu. It's the least offensive of the bunch, being Water-type and gaining a more distinct evolution, but it didn't get heralded as "Pikablu" without good reason.

>>49892408
My issue with the Pikaclones is that they've really limited the number of morphologies available to the Electric type. Every region has a dumb bird, but (1) birds are the archetypal Flying monster and (2) those birds vary wildly in appearance. You'd never mistake Toucannon for Corviknight. Meanwhile, the Electric type is glutted with pale reflections of Pikachu's fame. The Electric type lives constantly in the shadow of Pikachu.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 19:16:42 No.49892882 Report

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>>49892593
Which is why it would be fucking great if they actually branched out from Pikachu clones to more Pikachu adjacent monsters. Like bringing back those beta electric tigers for example, which has sort of a Pikachu edge but were clearly their own thing. Basically make more Pokemon like Marril and less like Plusle. Mons like Mincinno I could have sworn were going to be this when they were revealed, and they easily could have been. Even though I love Emolga, I would have happily accepted the chinchilla as the Pikachu clone for that region

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 19:18:02 No.49892892 Report

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>>49892277
>but was weirdly rare
skitty's been a rare mon since its inception

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 19:21:08 No.49892919 Report

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>>49892279
>>49892268
It's easy to say this but they're all visually distinct enough and I feel like birds are just such an obvious monster for the flying type that it's kind of unavoidable. Meanwhile...
>>49892243 early game moth and butterfly Pokemon look and act almost entirely the same. Yes they have little quirks here and there to set them apart, but those seem kind of minor especially when most of them are bugs/flying or bug / poison and all learn quiver dance.

>>49892277
I've had an idea for a Pokemon region based on the northeast for quite some time, and one of the regionals was a cat in the hat themed glameow line. Dr Seuss is from Massachusetts so it made sense to me, and they already have the long tail which is a staple of his creatures

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 19:46:23 No.49893161 Report

Quoted By: >>49893484 >>49893501

>>49891898
TM Dumpster Kaijumon.
You know the one. It's big, lumpy and/or spiney, and learns dozens of random ass moves. Surf is almost mandatory, but random Thunder, Blizzard, and Fire Blast, and Aerial Ace are also almost universal, OCCASIONALLY with a single element removed.

"Fuck me eyes" sea creature. Lapras is the OG, but tons of random sea life with dreamy, inviting faces infest these games. You think I'm meming, go fucking look.

Coccoon bug. This one is so bad that Game Freak has started going out of their way to get creative with cocoons, but only Whirlipede has really succeeded.

Random ass bird and random ass fish. These have that "feeling" of regional filler. Gamefreak looked down, realized they only have 95 pokemon, and forgot to throw down something to pull up with a Good rod, and so we get shit like Basculin. The regional bird isn't necessarily contributing to this, it's the OTHER birds that plump it up. Appreciate Magikarp for gatekeeping the FUCK out of random ass fish, Basculin is what we get when Magikarp is on vacation.
Actually, take the moment to appreciate all the bullshit Magikarp, Zubat, and Geodude have collectively filtered over the years.

Waifumon. Ever since Gamefreak started making these things deliberately, they're starting to pile up and collect dust.

El Ratto. The shitty knock-off Pikachu that sells merch. Such a shit archetype that Gamefreak themselves ripped their own asses with Mimikyu. Doesn't help that they're all worthless.

Big Sexy Dragon. Every generation has one. Some have multiple. A big, sleek, and hulking pile of muscle and scale to hold you down and make love to you, weather that be with thick, muscular cloaca lips, or a dragon peen.

Random floating thing. From space, probably. How many random pieces of shit that allegedly fell from space can we enter into a cockfight? Way too fucking many.

Strong guy. It's like, just a fucking guy. He's strong, and will beat up animals if you tell him to. Sometimes wears clothes.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 20:28:23 No.49893484 Report

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>>49893161
they've cut back on the Kaiju mons a bit. They were a staple of the first few gens but I honestly don't think we've seen one in a while. The closest we've been in a while is GMax, and there are a handful of Pokemon in each generation that look like a Kaiju, but they don't fit this archetype of being a "Kaiju" Pokemon (fat, big, mean looking assortment of monstrous features that learns a lot of different shit).

>Gens 1 and 2 have Nidos, Rhydon, Kangaskhan and TTar for Pokemon that directly hit the criteria tho you could argue a lot of other Pokemon from these 2 generations more than any other Gen look like they could be based on Kaiju too (Scyther, Blastoise, Hitmons...)
>Gen 3 has Aggron and (arguably) Exploud and Slaking. Armaldo LOOKS like a Kaiju too but whatever, doesn't count
>Gen 4 has Rhyperior. But there's a lot of Kaiju looking mons in this Gen as well (Garchomp and Tangrowth come right to mind)
>Gen 5 has Haxorus which fits most of the archetype. Volcarona also exists as a clear Mothra expy but doesn't hit all the criteria here
>Gens 6 & 7 don't really have any Pokemon that fit this archetype. There's Pokemon that kind of look like Kaiju (A-Muk and Turtonator come to mind), but they don't hit the criteria. I guess Megas for TTar and Aggron count tho, especially because Mega TTar is a direct reference to Space Godzilla
>Gen 8 has Duraludon as a professed Kaiju that does hit some of the criteria, and then there's GMax which is basically Kaiju battles for a lot of Pokemon but it's only in appearance

I atually wish we had more Pokemon that fit this mold. It would be really cool to see a genuine knockoff of Gamera or Ultraman thrown in that can pull off all sorts of crazy bullshit just like the rest of the "true" Kaiju mons. And while Duraludon is meant to be our Mechagodzilla, I wish that beta mon Omega became a reality bc it fits the theme so much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 20:30:01 No.49893501 Report

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>>49893161
>Random floating thing
I think this should just include all object Pokemon in this category. Because there's quite a few of those, and I know a lot of people are sick of them. But I personally like them. Especially the ones that are kind of out there, like the foodmons or shit like Dhelmise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 20:31:43 No.49893516 Report

Quoted By: >>49893739

>>49891898
here is a rough count of some archetypes/gimmicks gamefreak likes to use of the top of my head, I'm sure I missed a couple here or there or miscounted but I don't care enough to double check:
>small feminine plantmon with flower petal clothes
12
>caterpillar - cocoon - butterfly/moth
15
>just a cat
11
>just a dog
14
>just a bird
32
>just a rodent
18
>shitty pikaclones
10
>hey look, this builder/rock/pebble is alive!
18
>this pokemon is humanoid and therefore a fighter
22
>kaijumon
9
>just a fish
23
>round blob = baby
29
>furbait
20

as you can see, birdmons take the lead followed closely by babymons I tried to only count the animal-mons that don't look too weird, such as persian is just a cat, while purserker is not, but for birds this is difficult as many of them are bird+element and there are very few birdmon like dodrio or blaziken that are easy because they're distinctly bird but not like, a BIRD bird, if that makes sense. your count could thus be way lower, or maybe even a bit higher, depending on what you count/don't count. in the spirit of fairness I'd put round blobby babymon first.
And finally, I counted the most important archetype as well for comparison:
>gigantic ASS-stinger
3

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 21:01:04 No.49893739 Report

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>>49893516
Op here. I was hoping somebody would just straight do this

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 21:11:02 No.49893798 Report

Quoted By: >>49893827 >>49893940

Frog/toads/tadpoles
Bulbasaur line
Poliwag line
Croagunk line
Tympole line
Froakie line

Turtles/tortoises:
Squirtle line
>Turtle
Torkoal
Turtwig line
Tirtouga line
Turtonator
Chewtle line

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 21:14:45 No.49893827 Report

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>>49893798
I really wish we could have another 4-legged monster toad instead of bipedal frogmen every other generation since Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 21:29:31 No.49893940 Report

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>>49893798
I meant
>Shuckle

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Anonymous Wed 09 Mar 2022 23:36:49 No.49895076 Report

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>>49892354
>marill but no mimikyu

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