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Would you add a new type?

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 02:49:22 No.49912038 View View Reply Original Report

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If so what would it be? What would it be strong/weak against? What would be some moves? What would some pokemon of the type look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 02:50:00 No.49912044 Report

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>>49912038
Sound type.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 02:55:06 No.49912082 Report

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Adding more types to the not at all intuitive typology Pokemon already has isn't a good idea at all. Fairy was already a mess largely due to how it was implemented, more types added to target and upset existing balance is stupid.
I'd rather see type spreads REDUCED and each type return to having a broad role, with dual-typing being a huge double-edged sword in most cases.

>>49912044
this is the only new type idea that isn't complete shit, but that's mostly because there are enough existing mons that could fit it retroactively.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 02:58:39 No.49912111 Report

Quoted By: >>49913157 >>49915514

Yes the Earth type
Let's give it the exact same characteristics as Ground while removing it and Rock just because, they DEFINITELY aren't the exact same shit conceptually aren't they?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:00:24 No.49912117 Report

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light/solar, sound, and MAYBE cosmic
anything else is bloat.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:05:02 No.49912148 Report

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>>49912117
>Let's add 3 new types but anything else is bloat
Lolwut

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:22:45 No.49912294 Report

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food type
weak to fire, dragon. and poison
resists ice, water, and fairy
effective against water and steel and maybe psychic
resisted by ice, rock, and grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:25:06 No.49912317 Report

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If they were to add a completely new type at this stage instead of consolidating existing types (ground+rock) it'd have to be some kind of one off gimmick type like Nuclear

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:26:26 No.49912333 Report

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>>49912038
Take ??? type and make it Eldritch type for Pokemon oddities

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:33:10 No.49912389 Report

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>>49912038
Bird type.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:36:25 No.49912420 Report

Quoted By: >>49912768 >>49913353 >>49915309

Rock Ground gets combined.
Water Ice gets combined.
Poison Dark gets combined.
Ghost and Psychic.

Add Bird
Add ?????
Add Kaiju
Add Pig

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:38:58 No.49912443 Report

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Nigger type.

>Weak against
Water, Steel, Dark

>Effective against
Normal, Electric

>Resists
Normal

>Unaffected by
Psychic

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:55:29 No.49912570 Report

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>>49912117
I really don't understand cosmicfags. Why do you need a separate psychic type?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 03:59:07 No.49912612 Report

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Light type

>strong against
dark
bug
ghost
psychic

>weak against
grass
water
dark
fairy

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:06:11 No.49912672 Report

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Jelly type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:07:23 No.49912680 Report

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>>49912038
I wouldn't add a new type but I would change the type chart to make Normal super-effective against Fairy

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:12:26 No.49912718 Report

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>>49912672

>weak to
ice
fire
grass
electric

>resist
ground
ghost

>Immune to
water

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:18:52 No.49912755 Report

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Soundfags don’t realize that literally every Pokemon makes noise. What a fuckshit idea.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:21:11 No.49912768 Report

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>>49912420
Ghost and Psychic being combined is a bad idea but really the rest of this is probably okay. Ice and Water being combined would shit down the throat of Dragons but you could just change their weaknesses.
Your new types are all shit ideas tho, shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:22:13 No.49912776 Report

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>>49912755
Every pokemon also generates bioelectrical signals and consists of some percentage of water, shut the fuck up

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:23:26 No.49912780 Report

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>>49912612
>strong against bug, psychic
Why
>Weak against water, fairy
Why

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:29:39 No.49912832 Report

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>>49912038
> Hunter-Type

> Defensive
> Weak to - Poison, Psychic, Ghost & Ice
> Resists - Water, Bug & Steel
> Immune to - Fairy

> Offensive
> Strong against - Water, Grass, Fire, Bug & Fairy
> Resisted by - Poison, Psychic, Normal & Ice

Pokemon of this type would be natural predators, Pokemon such as Arbok, Sharpedo, Staraptor, Druddigon & Ursaring, etc.

Existing moves that would change to the type would include those that would be tactics in hunting; Vise Grip, Double Team, Spike Cannon, Swagger, Fake Out, Hone Claws, etc.

The Hunter-Type's weaknesses reflect things that would limit or significantly challenge the hunt, the extreme cold being a natural limitation and Poison can quickly end a hunt in failure. Psychic and Ghost being supernatural in nature are beyond the natural capabilities of hunting and so would be able to counter them.

The type's strengths are in those it can hunt with ease, plants, insects and fish as well as magical creatures often being hunted in literature. As hunters are skilled with tools, the Steel-Type would have limitations in a similar vein to how it exercises control over Fairy-Type through its portrayal in literature.

As the Normal-Type is often represented by domesticated animals (pets and livestock) the hunt has no reason to attack and as such deals reduced damage. (Feel free to ignore this point if you feel Normal-Type should remain more neutral).

The only type not really accounted for is Fire-Type which more so just serves to cut that type down a notch after its little boost over Fairy-Types. It also renders Hunter-Type as the offensive equivalent to Dragon-Types defences as both would have strength over the starter types.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:54:46 No.49913018 Report

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>>49912780
Bug mainly due to moths and the such getting their eyes fucked by light. Same reason why Bug is strong against Dark.

Water because light refracts/degrades in water, thus being the reason why places like the Mariana Trench are so dark.

Psychic and fairy just felt right.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 04:58:06 No.49913045 Report

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>>49912755
>Fightingfags don’t realize that literally every Pokemon can fight. What a fuckshit idea.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:04:42 No.49913087 Report

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Acid

Strong against steal, fairy, dragon, ground, fighting, and rock.
Resisted by fire, water and grass, immune by bug, ice and ghost.

Resist to nothing, immune to steal.
Weak to fire, water, grass, electric, bug, ice and ghost.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:09:18 No.49913120 Report

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NO.
They're perfect how they are.

Also they are even now so my OCD doesn't trigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:15:58 No.49913150 Report

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Nuclear type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:16:49 No.49913155 Report

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>>49912038

Autists making types that already have types asocied to them.

"Hunter" It's called Dark, dumbass.
"Acid" Poison.
"Light" Psychic and Fairy.
"Food" Fairy, maybe some Ghost like Polteageist.

Sound type is a stupid concept because.

1- There's already Flying. Which NO is not "BIRD" type you retard, it's more "Air" type and also it's "sound" type. So we don't need a Sound type all the sound-based moves are that, SOUND-BASED MOVES! That's their type.

Those types are more abstract but they just wanna make them more and more specific to the point that EVERY pokémon will have it's own type for each one.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:16:57 No.49913157 Report

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>>49912111
Again. autistic brains are unable to conceptualise outside of their own sphere, unable to abstract, can only view things literally.

Rock = mineral, stone, physical element

Ground = the pokemon utilises the ground, burrows, is earthed.

Sure there is overlap but they aren't the same thing.

Do you have an issue with water and ice? Considering they are LITERALLY the same thing

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:18:12 No.49913165 Report

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>>49913157
Yup they do.

It's all about literal-type people here.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:18:17 No.49913166 Report

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>>49912294
Please no.

Knowing vp you have a food fetish and just want to see porn of it legitimised

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:20:46 No.49913180 Report

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>>49913166
Ahem...
Slurpuff line.
Alcremie.
Polteageist line.

Pretty much any grass type fruit-based.

Would eat one of the pieces of my Tsareena's ass~

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:24:58 No.49913206 Report

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>>49912044
sound is just the normal type's version of elemental/special attacks.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:26:15 No.49913215 Report

Quoted By: >>49913235

Honestly Tech type is the only justifiable type for Pokemon that are clearly man-made like Porygon

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:29:05 No.49913235 Report

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>>49913215
Yeah but only for Porygon.

Pretty much all other man-made pokémon are or steel or have other types.

And Porygon is normal because it's in blank it changes it's typing depending on what it needs, after all it's just code.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:33:05 No.49913260 Report

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>>49913206
Sound type is just
SOUND-BASED MOVES. Period.
It's the worst concept for a type and i don't get why SO MUCH PEOPLE ask for it when it's not even a type IT'S A MOVE STYLE.

What's next?

Contact Type? Special Type, Physical Type?

DUMBASSES.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:38:21 No.49913287 Report

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>>49913235
They could always make other man-made Pokemon in the future (also, how the fuck are Meltan and Melmetal not man-made?)

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:44:07 No.49913312 Report

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There's Normal type, so what about ABNORMAL type?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:44:16 No.49913313 Report

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>>49913287
They're steel type as well.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:45:17 No.49913320 Report

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>>49913312
What about AUTISTIC type?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:50:44 No.49913353 Report

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>>49912420
Kaiju type would be sick.
Gyarados
Tyranitar
Hydreigon are good candidates.

Would we have to get rid of dragon in that case?

>>49912117
Solar sounds like a kickass typing. It could be an umbrella for cosmic and light. But I'm wondering if it would be too close to fire considering they already have sunny day and strong sunlight.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:52:55 No.49913360 Report

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>>49912038
Chaos
>Resists Water, Fire, Fairy
>Weak to Bug, Psychic, Normal
>Super effective against Normal, Water, Fire
>Resisted by Ice, Psychic, Bug
Chaos moves would have a lot of RNG effects so it would be pretty shit in meta. Chaos Pokemon would have erratic forms, since it's essentially the polar opposite of Normal type.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 05:57:04 No.49913386 Report

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>>49912038
Acid Type
>Beats Steel, Grass, Bug, Ice, Poison, Fighting, Normal, and Rock
>Immune to itself
>Resists Poison, Grass, Bug, Steel, and Ice
>Ghost is Immune to it
>Resisted by Psychic, Dragon, Fairy, Water, Dark, Fire, and Electric
>Beaten by Psychic, Fairy, Fire, Electric, and Water
Basically a glass cannon type: make the Victreebell line Grass/Acid, chance Acid and Acid Spray moves to Acid type. Alolan Grimer line is Poison/Acid. Skuktank line is Dark/Acid. Swalot line is Acid. Galarian Weezing is Acid/Fairy.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:08:47 No.49913440 Report

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"Acid type"

People like you are the ones who would separate Poison and Venom as types.

How autistic you must be to divide an unified type that includes disgusting stuff, poisonous/venomous creatures, acids, stench etc.

To make it every a different type.

Type Acid, Type Odor, Type Smog, Type Yuck...

HOW RIDICULOUS THIS MUST BE?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:14:31 No.49913461 Report

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>>49913440
Really, the only type that has too many members is water. There's also a lot of normal types but that's to be expected. What would be a good way to separate water?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:16:44 No.49913477 Report

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>>49913461

Well, water covers almost 70% of the Earth surface.
So having a lot of water creatures have sense.

I'll say that there's already Ice type. If you want toxic liquid there's poison etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:17:45 No.49913483 Report

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Or some number, i don't remember atm.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:25:42 No.49913504 Report

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>>49913260
>Contact Type?
Literally fighting type lol

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:33:57 No.49913535 Report

Quoted By: >>49918319

>>49913461
Deep Type (thematically the opposite of flying type)
>squid, octopus, crabs, potentially any water type that isn't a mammal
>like flying, most deep types are dual types, with deep/water being the most common (like flying/normal)
>weak to ground, electric, fairy, and fire (aversion to light and closer to earth)
>resists water, dark, ice, normal, bug, and fighting (thrives in the dark and cold)
>immune to flying
>beats normal, fighting, bug, and ghost
>is resisted by electric, fire, fairy, and flying

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 06:47:45 No.49913590 Report

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Ancient Type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 07:21:31 No.49913733 Report

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Rubber type
Resists normal, water, electric, fighting, and fairy
Weak to fire, ice, steel
Super effective against electric, fighting, and fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 07:33:20 No.49913781 Report

Quoted By: >>49913926

>>49913155
>We don't need ice, we have water
>We don't need rock, we have ground
>We don't need steel, we have rock
>We don't need dark, we have ghost
>We don't need fairy, we have psychic

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 08:07:05 No.49913926 Report

Quoted By: >>49914839

>>49913781
If we're going by TCG as well;
> We don't need Bug, we have Grass
> We don't need Poison, we have Psychic
> We don't need Ghost, we have Psychic
> We don't need Ground, we have Fighting
> We don't need Dragon, we have Normal
> We don't need Flying, we have Normal

That leaves us with Water, Electric, Grass, Psychic, Fire, Normal & Fighting, can we go further?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 08:41:48 No.49914082 Report

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>>49912038
We don't need any more.
Anyway if we're just making up new types for fun, then
>Heal Type
>Super effective against Poison, Ghost, Psychic
>Resists Ghost, Psychic, Fairy, Fire, Dark
>Weak to Poison, Ice, Bug
>Resisted by Ice, Bug, Grass, Fighting
Yes both weak to and SE against poison.
Pokemon that become Heal type in next post cause spam filter

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 08:49:16 No.49914116 Report

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>>49914082
Heal type pokemon:
Happiny, chansey, Blissey and audino become pure heal type
Indeedee, alomomola, pyukumuku, cresselia, Xerneas, goodra, flabebe/floette/Florges, comfort, zarude, bellossom, lilligant, bayleef/meganium
Maybe ribombee and cherubi/cherrim too

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 10:36:50 No.49914506 Report

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>>49913155
>1- There's already Flying. Which NO is not "BIRD" type you retard, it's more "Air" type and also it's "sound" type. So we don't need a Sound type all the sound-based moves are that, SOUND-BASED MOVES! That's their type.
What the fuck does sound have to do with air you schizo? Do you know what sound is?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 11:31:40 No.49914685 Report

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>>49912038
no.
I might've said Holy (a.k.a. light) but it's too late now. Psychic and Fairy have spread out into that role.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 12:15:33 No.49914839 Report

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>>49913926
Fire and electric are both types of energy so replace them with that.

Combine normal with fighting as there's nothing really special about fighting is there

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 12:31:02 No.49914893 Report

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>>49913166
why do you not like food type? stupid

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 12:33:52 No.49914909 Report

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>>49913313
They're pure Steel type so they can get a second typing in Tech. Besides Steel =/= Tech. There's a lot of Steel types that exist without human intervention like Steelix and the Aron and Beldum lines.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 14:05:48 No.49915255 Report

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>>49912038
glue type for adhesive pokemon
strong against bug, weak against water

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 14:11:36 No.49915293 Report

Quoted By: >>49917051

>Flying to Wind
>Grass to Plant
>Normal to Beast
>Rock+Ground merged to Earth
>add Cosmic

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 14:14:08 No.49915309 Report

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>>49912420
>Pig

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 14:54:14 No.49915506 Report

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>>49912038
Probably Holy/Light type if i HAD to

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 14:55:15 No.49915514 Report

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>>49912111
>Nooo water and ice are the same
Kys

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 16:19:49 No.49916014 Report

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>>49913461
>What would be a good way to separate water?
Most logical one would be to separate it between saltwater and freshwater ("Sea Type" and "River Type" maybe?) but then you don't have a single Water classical element, which is a shame. I guess you could go with Water Types plus Water/Salt Types then.

I fail to see what that would add to the game though.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 16:27:44 No.49916060 Report

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>>49912038
No, we need 1 less type
Rock gets merged into ground

Also Ice should be strong against water
Psychic should be weak to poison

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 16:48:15 No.49916172 Report

Quoted By: >>49917012

>>49912038
sound is the most realistic but even that has problems. There are so many pokemon already that theres no broad category that would work as a type that lots of pokemon don't already fit. They dont mind adding a second type, and they dont mind replacing a normal type, and Id even think theyd replace a fairy/dragon/dark/fighting type if it was a particularly nonsense one. Sound is your best option because you've got monotypes like kricketune it can be added to and mononormals like exploud it can take over. But theres still pokemon like toxtricity who you can now do nothing with. I do also like that, at least to me, theres a very clear line for what could be attack vs sp attack. Brute sound would be attack based and things with music/harmony could be special.

The other option is to completely make up something with no connection to reality. Zugelthorp type, for pokemon who exude zugelthorp energy. They can add it to whoever they want because its made up

I really like rubber but its too conflicted

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 17:44:39 No.49916503 Report

Quoted By: >>49917170

Type Sound

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 18:54:49 No.49916942 Report

Quoted By: >>49916975

>>49912038
IMO there's only two options left that make sense from the standpoint of a developer or a player:

>Completely revamp the type chart from the ground up. Go back to brass tacks, basically, and literally come up with a new chart and retype every Pokemon

>Create another "Shadow-type." As in, a type that isn't a *true* type per se but rather some sort of ad hoc story-related "power" that functions as a type. That way it won't step on the toes of already existing types nor will it muddle the type chart by creating something that would upend the game and retype a lot of mons + moves. They could even have original Pokemon or regional forms of the "Shadow" type, but make it special in so far as it can only be strong against itself and is super rare. It would be the gimmick of its region.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:00:37 No.49916975 Report

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>>49916942
3rd option that just came to mind is to ADD a new characteristic for Pokemon that can function as a 3rd type... sort of. Instead of giving them 3rd types (since that seems convoluted mechanically and is already being done in small half-steps like abilities), each Pokemon could be given a "Class" (that's what I'll call it for, but it doesn't have to be that)

Classes could be based on Egg Groups for the most part, but could also venture out. And the Pokemon's Class would not be tied to its type but still be unique to that species. So for example, Charizard could be the "Dragonkin" Class which would give it certain privileges (and detriments) unique to Pokemon in that class. Meanwhile a Pokemon like Moltres could be in the "Bird" Class, which would give it separate distinctions from Charizard besides also being a Fire/Flying-type. Maybe "Dragonkin" are able to take reduced damage from physical attacks while "Birds" would have be able to gain a slight speed boost everytime they dodge an attack. I know those ideas are not the greatest, but that's where my mind goes with that particular concept.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:05:31 No.49917012 Report

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>>49916172
The problem with Sound is that it has already been built into other moves as a move property. Yeah they could backpedal and just make it its own type, but do we then make all these sound-based moves into dual-type attacks? Do they stay whatever type they are now but lose the perks of being sound-based? It also messes with Pokemon like Noivern, Toxtricity or Primarina who are already better matched with other types but make sense being "Sound." Sure, not everyone got retyped to Fairy that maybe made sense getting it (the Lake Trio comes to mind), but it still got spread around and didn't mess with the current move selection too drastically. Sound on the other hand would be pretty disruptive.

I guess the counter argument to that though is then why not make "light-based" a property of attacks, since we have a few of those as well that are just typed as whatever the hell (Psychic, Fairy, Grass, Dragon...). But then again, if you made Light a type... do those moves start becoming Light typed moves?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:07:57 No.49917026 Report

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>>49915506
I've wanted a "Saint" type for a long time. It feels different enough from anything we currently have and could do the "light" thing without overlapping too greatly with other types that use light in their attacks, since it would be "divine light" or "holy" instead. And then to avoid calling it "Holy," you call it "Saint" (or something like it) since it would be based more on "extraplanar" Pokemon. So not just your angels and possibly devils, but also things like dogu, kami, kachinkas, asuras... Unfortunately a lot of Pokemon that are already based on these concepts are some other type as it is, like the Forces of Nature, so it'll never fucking happen :/

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:11:14 No.49917051 Report

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>>49912117
>>49912570
>>49913353
>>49915293
Once Fairy fell into existence and took over the "magic/nature" shit, Psychic pretty much BECAME the cosmic type. Look at all the Psychic types out there, especially ones that were introduced in Gens 6-8 AFTER Fairy, and tell me they didn't start leaning more into the spacey/future sight/cosmic powers shit.

Also Pokemon like Clefairy who would absolutely become "Cosmic" based on lore alone are already Fairy and it makes 100% sense for them to use moon powers (bc if they retypped Snubbull to Fairy based on a Pokedex description, they'd retype Clefairy too to fit its lore).

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:13:33 No.49917067 Report

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>>49912038
This isn’t all their type relations, just their rationale

Cosmic
>Split from Psychic, a Pokémon being alien doesn’t make it Cosmic. Needs an intrinsic connection to outer space and non-planet heavenly bodies
>Weak to Dragon, Psychic, and Rock
>Resists Ground, Flying and Water, maybe Fairy if you want to get spicy.
>NVE on Bug, Psychic, and Ice
>Logically should be resisted by Steel, but I’ll instead transfer this aspect to Light Metal to avoid buffing Steel and giving it a use
>Unsure on resists/advantages

Nuclear
>Hasn’t really been touched by Pokémon at all. More of a “slap it on an elemental animal” type like Fire or Electric.
>Beats Fairy, not totally sure on the rest
>Resists Fairy, also not sure on others
>Resisted by Bug, Ice, and Pokémon with Heavy Metal
>Weak to Ice and not sure what else

I think the issue is that it’d be hard to include multiple types at once because new types are introduced as counters/buffs to old ones. Steel/Dark worked because Psychic was just that good and Fighting was just that bad.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:18:51 No.49917106 Report

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>>49917067
I happen to like Nuclear as a type for some reason, but it could easily be covered by Poison + some other type or an ability. Technically Nuclear Energy is a separate form of energy from Light, Heat, Sound, etc. but the way that most of us interpret Nuclear (and how it would likely be used in Pokemon) overlap with Poison type a lot. We're not getting a Nuclear Pokemon using Van der Waals forces and electronegativity to fight opponents. Probably just be "oo its a radioactive Eevee, look at how cancerous it is!" Just my thoughts on it.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:22:00 No.49917134 Report

Quoted By: >>49917188

You people want a Japanese-based company to do anything related to the concept of "nuclear"?

Do you people even read a history sometimes?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:22:23 No.49917136 Report

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>>49913157
>this argument again
If you're say this stupid fucking shit while completely ignoring the fact that rocks are just condensed earth, then explain to me why Sound type isn't a thing either, headass
That's right, because despite sound moves having special mechanics to them, Game Freak realized this time that making them separate would've been stupid when, at the end of the day, they ARE the same damn thing. May I remind you that those same special mechanics were heavily touched upon in Gen 6 onwards, you know, the same generation that added your oh so beloved Fairy type?
It's the same reason why you see geomancy users in media using the earth AND rocks at the same time, meanwhile water and ice magic are distinct. Your dumb ass wants to believe your shitty fanfiction of "ughm wuaterr and ais AR te saim ting cuz thei cum frum te SAIM TING!!!" when, in reality, those two couldn't be any more different from the other, unlike earth and rocks, which every single normal human being should know are one and the same, and as such, are treated so literally everywhere and anywhere... except in Pokemon, of course

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:26:32 No.49917170 Report

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>>49916503

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:26:53 No.49917173 Report

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>>49917067
Ideas for re-typings for both types

Cosmic
>Clefairy line (Fairy/Cosmic)
>Starmie (Water/Cosmic) (and now make Golduck Water/Psychic)
>Lunatone/Solrock (Cosmic/Rock) (would need a new Psychic/Rock)
>Gothita line (Psychic/Cosmic)

I was thinking for Minior the Core could become Cosmic/Flying, but even then Minior apparently lives in the Stratosphere which is only the second of seven layers of the atmosphere so we could skip it. Also I wanted to avoid alien Pokémon (and even Dottler/Orbeetle) because aliens live on planets too and it’d get so boring.

Cosmog line could replace Psychic for Cosmic. Keep Necrozma Psychic to represent its advantage over them and to differentiate Dusk/Dawn Necrozma with Solgaleo/Lunala. Also better represents light IMO.

Some good evos/new Pokémon could be an Orion’s Belt warrior, an evolution to Ledian, a UFO, a starfruit or star Thistle.

Retyped moves would be Gravity, Cosmic Power, and Swift.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:30:06 No.49917188 Report

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>>49917134
Atlus did it

>>49917067
>>49917173
Ideas for Nuclear

>K-Muk could be retyped to Poison/Nuclear
>No moves in the game really correlate to it
>Maybe its moves (or a specific move) interact with Burn/Paralysis/Poison? Either inflicting them or doing more damage to afflicted foes.
>New Pokémon could be a banana (Tropius evo/variant?), cinnabar, a cockroach. But desu as I said I feel it would end up an “elemental animal type”.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:42:26 No.49917272 Report

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If you propose a new type you should have a couple of Gym Leader concepts for it, to see how thematically diverse it can be.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 19:54:08 No.49917340 Report

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I wanted to say crystal type but that's basically rock

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 21:52:23 No.49918239 Report

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>>49912612
nah fuck you, this isnt how you balance light

light type is strong against:
electric, water, fairy

light type resists:
light, electric, fairy, ghost

light is weak to:
dark, poison, steel

light is ineffective to:
light, dragon, grass, steel

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 21:53:24 No.49918242 Report

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>>49918239
*ineffective against dark aswell

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:05:44 No.49918318 Report

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Sound-Type

Cosmic-Type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:06:01 No.49918319 Report

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>>49913535
I really like the idea of this one. However, making it resists Fighting and Bug makes no sense altogether every one of those interaction with Normal.

Now, considering the issue with making an outter space type thing, Psychic fits this role really well for alien beings. Why not just make Bomb type instead for the other category of beings that represent the explosive nature of the universe. This way, it's possible to make both earthly and spatial representations in a broader scale.

I'm kind of taking inspirations from this article: >https://www.science.org.au/curious/space-time/smells-space

>A succession of astronauts have described the smell as ‘… a rather pleasant metallic sensation ... [like] ... sweet-smelling welding fumes’, ‘burning metal’, ‘a distinct odour of ozone, an acrid smell’, ‘walnuts and brake pads’, ‘gunpowder’ and even ‘burnt almond cookie’.
>Another (slightly sexier) idea is that the odour is due to dying stars. When a star dies it releases a lot of energy. This produces pungent compounds known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), which float endlessly around the universe and assist in the creation of new comets, planets and stars.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:07:58 No.49918329 Report

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Racism type, super effective against dark

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:13:08 No.49918350 Report

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>>49917012
i would say normal type ones become sound. But something like metal sound stays steel. No reason for a dual type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:54:31 No.49918613 Report

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>>49917272
Sound can be very diverse since there's lots of genres music (however I like to attribute different genre musicians to already existing types) and of course there's sound effect guys among other things. Still I feel like Sound is to broad of a term to be a Pokemon type.

Tech is harder, I mean you've got your scientists, your men of the future, influencers maybe, and possibly another militaristic gym leader who prefers tech and possibly a gym leader with the 'tism for robots but that's about as far as I know how to do with it (and most of these coincide with Electric type gym Leaders and at least one Steel)

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 22:59:34 No.49918649 Report

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>>49918613
SHUT UP STUPID GAY HOMO NIGGER FAGGOT!!! *kills you, shits on your dead body. Smears some of the poop on your face, takes a picture of it, breaks into your parents' home and destroys/deletes all their photos of you, replacing them with the dead poop corpse photo of you so its the only thing they'll have to remember your face with*

Now what, bitch? Too late to be sorry

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:07:29 No.49918703 Report

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>>49918649
>Frogposter

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:13:08 No.49918746 Report

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>>49913260
BALL TYPE

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:14:15 No.49918754 Report

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>>49918703
Shut up gay faggot homo nigger. I kill you. Prepare to die. *kills you* How about that, bitch cunt? *buries you in your parents' front yard, but not that deep, so that the neighbors' dog will dig up your dead faggot body and your parents will walk out in the morning and be shocked and horrified to see your shitty dead dog food body getting gnawed on*

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:18:32 No.49918795 Report

Quoted By: >>49918815

GUN type
Super affective against everything

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:19:55 No.49918803 Report

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BLOOD Type
>Weak against
Poison, Rock, Bug, Ice
>Resists
Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Electric
>Resistive against
Fighting, Bug, Ice, Poison, Rock, Normal
>Effective against
Steel, Fire, Ghost

If this sounds retarded it's because i made it rn on the spot

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:20:16 No.49918805 Report

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>>49918242
Nah you're a fucking faggot. Light and dark are superaffective against each other

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:21:18 No.49918815 Report

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>>49918795

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:40:06 No.49918920 Report

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>>49912038
Lets look at the types.

Normal-Simple things, energy, sound, simple methods

Grass-Things related to nature such as wood, plants, photosynthesis

Fire-Flames, heat and things that emit it. Nuclear, radiation

Water-H2O, liquids, water, traits of aquatic creatures

Fighting-Methods of combat, heroics, chi, martial arts

Flying-Aerial creatures, wind, air, atmosphere

Poison-Hazardous or gross things(hint: Every monkey pokemon can learn Gunk Shot for this reason), acid, debilitation.

Ground-Sand, the land itself, mud, dirt, construction

Rock-Crystals, rocks, breakable but hard materiels

Bug-Insects,arthropods, arachnids

Ghost-The dark element you'd find in rpgs, ghostly habits and traits.

Electric-Thunder,lightning and any thing related to it.

Psychic-Telekinesis, Telepathy, high intelligence and wisdom, manipulation of time and space,

Ice-Anything frigid or relating to something involving ice, snow, hail, blizzards

Dragon-Dragons or any creature thats powerful beyond typical levels, mythical, possibly a reference to Dragon Ball or Final Fantasy

Dark-Negativity, tricks, feral in nature, bad luck

Steel-Metal, relating to robots, weaponry, different kind of inorganic from rock

Fairy-Magic and purity, Light, the moon, aether

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:40:11 No.49918921 Report

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zodiac type

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:46:10 No.49918952 Report

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>>49912570
Psychic = mystic magical, cognitive
Fairy = fae magic, fantastical
Cosmic = existential power, otherworldly/ alien

You could technically condense these all into one type if u generalize enough, but they’re just as distinct as rock, ground, and steel are.

Design wise, youd be looking at pokemon that have an otherworldly, abstract design aesthetic to them like Deoxys, starmie, beheeyem, sigilyph, the porygon line, etc.

Type archetype:
>physically defensive special attackers

Resists:
>fire, ice
(resistant to the temperatures in space)
> ghost, psychic, and fairy
(reason being aliens advancing beyond earthly superstition, intelligence)

Weaknesses:
>Grass, poison, and bug
(falling in line with the concept of alien physiology being maladapted to terrestrial/biological conditions)

Super effective to:
>fairy, ghost, psychic

Resisted by:
>bug, poison, grass

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Anonymous Sat 12 Mar 2022 23:50:01 No.49918969 Report

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>>49918952
I thought it might be flavorful to have Cosmic be SE against Water due to the Moon affecting the tides, evaporation, and all known water outside of Earth being in ice form.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Mar 2022 02:57:26 No.49920310 Report

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>>49912117
Light solar cosmic is psychic
Sound is ground

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