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Iris has probably the best constructed team of any champion. There's actually internal logic to it. Aggron and Lapras function as hard checks to the traditional counters to Dragon, and are bulky speedbumps besides. Archeops and Haxorus are both built as cleaners, Archeops in the traditional sense, and Haxorus via being a setup sweeper. Hydreigon and Salamence are all around attackers specializing in Special and Physical respectively. The team as a whole is built around forcing player reaction while leveraging damage output, and stonewalling attempts by the player to gain tempo. Any traditional counter to Dragon gets met by Lapras or Aggron, meaning the player isn't given free reign to spam Ice Beam. Then, Archeops either cleans house when you are out of full health pokemon, and your faster ones are already dead, or Haxorus comes in on a pokemon unprepared for it and Dances. Iris is the strongest champ in the series by a huge fucking margin. Between the raw BST of her team, the thoughtful construction and role of each member, and the exploitation of general patterns of player team building she uses. The best part though, is that Iris is nerfed HARD by playing on Switch. Her team is all about controlling tempo and punishing empty turns, which Switch mode takes completely out of her hands, meaning she's approachable for newer players. Iris on Set is a whole fucking new hell. Compare Cynthia, whose team is full of dead weight. Garchomp, Milotic, and Spiritomb are the only pokemon of any real merit, and Spiritomb only because a bulky pokemon with Pressure is inherently good against a player that has a single overlevelled pokemon. Cynthia is infamous, because her team is tuned to counter gen 4's early route shitmons, the starters, and the box legends. If you bring something like a Gyarados, or a Steelix, take literally any steps off of Starter+Staraptor+Luxray+Box Legend+Lucario core, she crumbles. If you have an answer to Garchomp and Milotic, you beat her.
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I was under leveled and I still swept Iris team. Excadrill(common pokemon) rapes her team
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Kalosbros..... why do we have the most forgettable and weakest champion???
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>>49922763 I was under leveled and I still swept Cynthia team. Bidoof(common pokemon) rapes her team
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>>49922763 Then proceed to rape her
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>>49922776 Nice try, Cynthia's team is FEAR proof. Her starting Pokemon is a SpiritTomb
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>>49922774 Diantha is stronger than Cynthia
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>>49922749 >Iris > Cynthia Anonymous
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>op still buttblasted he got btfo last thread
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>>49922964 I like Cynthia but god damn...Blue deserves better
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>>49922749 unovabort fanfiction aside, Cynthia actually trains her team and has full EVs
Iris doesnt even in Challenge Mode
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>>49922749 >Iris > Cynthia Iris herself disagrees, she simps for Cynthia in both anime and Masters
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Unova can never hope to compete with KINNOH weaker champion, weaker legendaries, weaker sales
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>>49922749 Finally somebody around here recognizes greatness. No wanking Cynthia or Leon, or lamenting over that poor old has-been Alder, just game recognizing game. Iris is pure uncompromising power and she demands all other champions kneel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1kHPeGqSw8 Anonymous
>>49922964 How can they ever recover from this?! Normalfags from kiketube have settled the debate!
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>>49922979 Blue is referred to as a Battle Legend alongside Red in Gen 7, Cynthia is not.
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>>49922982 Do we have data of which trainers train their Pokemon EVs?
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>>49922982 Random Battle Facility NPC > Cynthia
Glad we agree
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>>49922964 >Blue that low >EVERYONE that low Jesus, normies... Fucking hell
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>>49923032 >Do we have data of which trainers train their Pokemon EVs? in USUM a lot of trainer battles have EVs
in BDSP E4 have them even in first battles
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>>49923018 >Normalfags from kiketube have settled the debate! This, unironically
Cynthia is an immovable bastion
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>>49922993 >Unova can never hope to compete with KINNOH based
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Never get tired of worshipping Cynthia
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>>49922749 I could beat Cynthia's team with Iris'.
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>>49922989 >she simps for Cynthia Iris has good taste unlike her fanbase
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>>49923052 >>49923065 >Shitnoh Pretty telling how the top 5 "favorite trainer" is filled with two self insert non-characters.
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>unovaborts shit themselves in public: the thread
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>>49923126 Sinnoh just keeps winning every single poll
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>>49923126 >Alola the lowest As expected of plebbit!
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>>49923126 >>49923154 >>49923159 Upvoted
Kinnoh can't be stopped
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>>49923163 You only "like Alola" because of the girls.
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wait till they update BDSP and PLA sales, holy shit
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>>49923177 Kanto sold more
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>>49923180 >Kanto sold more after Lets Go Riolu that will no longer be the case
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>>49923177 >>49923188 >cope Johto sold more
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>>49923194 >Johto sold more DPPt + BDSP + PLA > GSC + HGSS
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>>49923197 >Shitnohfetus starting genwars Anonymous
>>49922774 You don't have Lance the level 40 champion.
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>>49923204 >DPPt + BDSP + PLA > GSC + HGSS this
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>>49923197 >>49923215 >toxic shitnohredditor can't stop herself (trans) from attacking every region why are they like this?
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>>49923175 That's certainly part of it as with any Pokemon game, presentation matters, but I also found its storyline compelling between Aether and the otherwordly Ultra Beasts (one of my favorite concepts in the series) and helping to found a brand new league. Plus the whole tropical paradise aesthetic really sold the whole package as a fun vacation adventure (the girls of course being part of that appeal)
So what then, you're gonna pretend you don't care about cute things in Pokemon like some sorta faggot?
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>>49923233 Opinion invalidated.
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I like Sinnoh and Johto hate Unova and Galar
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>>49923175 I should also add, Lusamine in Sun and Moon was a really good villain, arguably the best one in my opinion. An interesting antagonist goes a long way toward selling me on any story. And I DON'T say that because I'm attracted to her. I prefer Lillie.
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>>49923248 If all the reddit posts in this thread are any indication, I'm glad you don't agree with me.
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>>49923257 >shitnohfailedabortion can't stop genwaring Anonymous
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>>49923257 >I like Sinnoh and Johto >hate Unova and Galar holy based
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>>49923267 You don't like Alola, you just like the porn people make of the characters. Your opinion does not matter in the slightest.
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>>49923279 Holy shit you're actually retarded.
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>>49923287 Opinion invalidated.
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>>49923126 >Galar >no chance of winning I laughed.
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>>49923225 Before you fling shit at random, unrelated people, take a minute to let the facts sink.
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>>49923347 I can do DPPt ;)
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>positive thread about gen 5 gets derailed by gen war >70 posts >17 unique IPs looks like discord found this thread
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>>49923365 >positive thread about gen 5 gets derailed Good.
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>>49923365 >positive thread >thread title You're right about discord given the flood of reddit and BBS polls and single digit IQ shitposts, but it's no surprise. They were invited here.
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>>49923365 >positive unovabort moment
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DP Cynthia >>> BW1 Ghetsis > FRLG Alakazam > GSC Red > Platinum Cynthia > Wallace > Steven > the rest Postgame battles are a joke in every game with the sole exception of Red.
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>>49922749 Nice theory. Now play the games and see how weak Iris is.
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>>49923447 Imagine struggling with anyone aside from DP Cynthia or MAYBE Ghetsis.
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>>49923437 >BDSP Cynthia > DP Cynthia fixed
>Red. Red uses a pikachu
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>>49923452 Imagine struggling with DP Cynthia. What are you 14?
>>49923456 Cynthia uses Roserade and Gastrodon.
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>>49923476 >Roserade and Gastrodon. good pokemon
not NFEs like Pikachu
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>>49923456 BDSP gives you large movepools to work with. You have no excuse for losing to BDSP Cynthia.
>B-But Red uses a Pikachu And all of his pokemon have a 30 level advantage.
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>>49923476 >16 level advantage when your pokemon are barely scraping 50 >4 150 base power moves: STAB dragon rush and EQ, giga impact, and a brick break that is only used when SE Cynthia was gutted in Platinum and BDSP.
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>>49923495 >30 level you are not lvl 50+ when you face Red, you are at least 65-70, if not higher
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>>49923507 >Cynthia was gutted in Platinum and BDSP. BDSP Cynthia is objectively stronger than DP Cynthia
better move sets and full EVs + 6 items
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>>49923507 >50 you are not lvl 50 when you face Cynthia, you are at least 65-70, if not higher
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>>49923175 The female Pokemon? Well of course, what's Pokemon without the Pokemon!
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>>49923535 >BDSP E4 is the strongest E4 in the series Based Kinnoh dabbing on everyone
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>>49923515 Nta but that's only in HGSS. If you're playing GSC there's no way you're any higher than ~50 going up against red without some serious grinding
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>>49923555 >overleveledstartercuck Anonymous
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>>49923560 >he played gen8 >says he only lost to Cynthia in the last few gens leonsisters..
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>>49923536 I'm referring to DP Cynthia ya tard
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>>49923356 seriously if they were going to have Lance as champion what was the bloody point in having a dragon gym leader
Or if they absolutely needed to have a dragon gym leader, have it be an early gym leader so you can give them more basic dragons
at least that way Lance could have had himself a god damn Kingdra
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>>49923565 This has gotta just be 1 fucking dude manically going from thread to thread to find some way that he can make use of his 500 images of an overleveled starter. It's fucking hilarious. You can almost summon him by saying that a given generations level curve is good, he'll show up in a matter of minutes with his "Um akshooallee" post
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Cynthias BDSP team beats Irises BW2 team 10 out of 10 times whether its first battle vs first battle team, or rematch team vs rematch team
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>>49923776 If Iris' team is maxed out with comp items Cynthia doesn't stand a chance.
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>>49923555 >Ape beating Milotic and Chomp Doubt.jpg. Yes, I'm implying he only has one Pokemon. DP's level curve is beyond fucked late game.
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>>49922749 >Aggron >hard check to the traditional counters to Dragon you mean water types
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>>49923799 Im talking about the actual exact teams as they are in the games - same items, levels, EVs etc.
Cynthias is stronger
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Iris having some godly strong comp is unovabort fanfiction Its better than most champions though, but thats because most are trash
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>>49923828 Iris still stomps, hate to break it to you.
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Who the fuck even struggled with Iris? She was specifically made for the kids who got bopped by Ghetsis's Hydreigon.
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>>49923828 Yeah I won't deny that.
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>>49922749 >my shitty easy to sweep npc is harder than your shitty easy to sweep npc! I don't get the point of these threads.
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>>49923278 don't equate loud newfaggot zoomers with /vp/ as a whole
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>>49923365 the OP is genwarring retard
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>>49923840 yeah stomps the ground in anger after losing the battle AND her virginity
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>>49923851 Ghetsis's Hydreigon is illegal, artificial difficulty
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>>49923908 you've become what you've hate
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I live to worship Shirona
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>>49922749 UH OH IRIS! Look out! It's a water type Pokemon with Ice Beam!
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>>49923930 >villain cheats Nooooo, really?
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>>49923917 I forgot Cynthiafags don't actually play the games, no wonder you think her team is better.
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>>49923828 >Im talking about the actual exact teams as they are in the games - same items, levels, EVs etc. >Cynthias is stronger this, Irisfags in denial
its ok, maybe in 10 years when ILCA does BW remakes - they give Iris a lvl 88 Hydreigon with EVs
..oh wait, they will remake BW1, not BW2
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>>49922964 Did Cynthia ever battle Team Galactic? I know Steven fights alongside you in Emerald.
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>>49924067 >they will remake BW1, not BW2 Irissisters..
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>>49924094 >Did Cynthia ever battle Team Galactic? she could tell at a glance that the protag could beat TG and Cyrus, so she didnt need to get involved
in manga and anime she did fight them
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You know, it's pretty dumb that we ever thought the games which handed you a free lucky egg were difficult in any way.
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>>49924162 They arent difficult because its singles and you can switch freely while opponent cant.
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>>49922808 Truth. But XY will help you with a lot of things, so kids who just play along without limiting themselves won't realize it.
unlike anyone on that board, of course :}
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>>49922808 >Diantha is stronger than Cynthia no, but they are sexy together
Plus Cynthia has several high leveled repestompy rematch teams, they never gave Diantha a rematch team
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>>49922749 CynthiaSisters...........
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dont think most of the fanbase gives a fuck about Iris especially how little played BW2
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>>49922763 I did that with sandslash, swords dance and slash/earthquake
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best champion is giovanni
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>>49925367 Sand was broken. My Excradrill had sandstorm as it's final move.
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>>49922749 cynthia wins by virtue of not having her fanbase filled with pedophiles.
i win, cope, seethe, mald, etc
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a water starter with surf and icebeam sweeps every champion
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>>49922749 lmao who tf plays on switch mode anyway
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>>49922964 Fairly sure it's because Cynthia just radiates appealing girl boss energy while Iris is forever tainted by her terrible anime counterpart with normies