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Pokemon Z appreciation thread

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 20:45:26 No.50046540 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50046873 >>50048678 >>50048903 >>50051124

I know some annoying shitposters and zoomers like to jerk off this game a lot, but even so, I unironically think it's better than the DS games. It fleshed out everything undercooked about XY, kept all of its added conveniences while making it more challenging, added a bunch of stuff from ORAS, and then had a bunch of totally new shit unprecedented for third versions ala B2W2.
What was your favorite thing in Z?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 20:46:27 No.50046550 Report

Quoted By: >>50046561 >>50046594 >>50046639 >>50050097

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 20:48:27 No.50046561 Report

Quoted By: >>50047084

>>50046550
A single man in his 20s typed this out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 20:52:51 No.50046594 Report

Quoted By: >>50048492

>>50046550
Yeah, on behalf of all my fellow Zfags on this board, I apologize for how annoying we can be regarding 7 and 8. It seems like a lot of us either forgot what base XY was like or just started with Z entirely. Still though, I'd like this thread to remain positive and appreciate how good Z was without shitting on the later games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 20:58:16 No.50046639 Report

Quoted By: >>50046719 >>50046728

>>50046550
>assumes main game campaign becomes worse with a larger postgame, which it isn't on older games. They're just as good if not better than subsequent games
>ignores that game being too easy is valid, considering there is an accepted way to play to remain on track for a somewhat difficult experience, which is harder to play by in newer gens
>assumes people who hate kanto pandering just hate kanto, which isn't true
>assumes forgettability stems from lack of third versions, which other first versions don't lack memorability either
>assumes the unfinished game is as unfinished as previous third versions, even though it's less finished and needed a third version more
>assumes identity stems from rerelease-shit and not the actual content of the game lacking identity
That image is strawmanning of the highest order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:02:15 No.50046675 Report

Quoted By: >>50047068 >>50049503

I know it's sort of a meme that every game "needed" third versions, but when I replayed XY I noticed how much it seemed to imply a Z. I'm not saying that in terms of that it has bad design (DiaPer), or a lack of content (RS), but most of its plot threads seem to be intentionally left vague to be elaborated at a different time. Lysandre's fate being ambigious, Emma said to become the leader of the police, and Zygarde being completely absent. You can't tell me that they wrote

>When the Kalos region's ecosystem falls into disarray, it appears and reveals its secret power.

As it's pokedex entry and were absolutely done with the story. I don't know if it would be a Z, or a XZ/YZ, but it's a shame that it's basically a half-complete story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:06:04 No.50046719 Report

Quoted By: >>50046754

>>50046639
>assumes main game campaign becomes worse with a larger postgame, which it isn't on older games. They're just as good if not better than subsequent games

He probably based this off HGSS/GSC where Johto was gimped into oblivion to pander to kanto in the postgame. It's not universally true but I can see why he would think that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:06:42 No.50046728 Report

Quoted By: >>50046754 >>50046812

>>50046639
>which it isn't on older games
You’re right. BW was made BETTER by having a more linear and short campaign!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:10:05 No.50046754 Report

Quoted By: >>50046795

>>50046719
How is Johto gimped in HGSS?
>>50046728
This but unironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:13:54 No.50046795 Report

Quoted By: >>50046821 >>50046902 >>50046959 >>50050103

>>50046754
Shortest region, horrible level curve, boring map design and visuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:15:45 No.50046812 Report

Quoted By: >>50048917

>>50046728
No, it was better because the campaign wasn't any shorter or linear. It was better because the quality of the campaign was much better than any of the shit that came after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:16:37 No.50046821 Report

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>>50046795
I feel like it's at least more interestingly visually than Kanto and all Kanto's map has going for it is non-linearity. The actual routes themselves are mostly meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:22:12 No.50046873 Report

Quoted By: >>50048682

>>50046540
I liked it, but I don't know why they made Lysander want to fuck the player. It was very overt and uncomfortable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:26:27 No.50046902 Report

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>>50046795
interested in elaborating any of your opinions? simple assertions don't really help me understand your perspective

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:35:21 No.50046959 Report

Quoted By: >>50048506

>>50046795
> Shortest region,
It’s the second game in the series and the entire thing had to fit in a shitty cartridge that has more dust than coding room. Also Galar is smaller that’s not even getting to thing the actual dungeons landmarks and events
>horrible level curve,
Wrong, one gym leader ( Pryce) is under leveled. Wild Pokémon are lower level than in most games too but those are just exp fodder. That barely counts as horrible
>boring map design
Objectively one of best because of how it the world opens up and backtracks naturally into itself
> visuals.
Are one of the best in the series, fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:48:15 No.50047068 Report

Quoted By: >>50047092 >>50047109

>>50046675
Above all, XY felt unfinished to me. It did not necessarily appear rushed; a lot of effort was obviously put into the three bottom-screen activities, but so much of the world feels like something else is needed, whether it be the door at the electric plant or some odd NPC dialog across the region.
Zygarde is also one of my favorite legendaries, so it hurts to see him forever relegated to a side quest in SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:49:50 No.50047084 Report

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>>50046561
You'd be wrong. I'm in my 30s. And no, I'm not single. Gardevoir and I are very happy together.
Cope, kalosperm libcuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:50:38 No.50047092 Report

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>>50047068
>Zygarde is also one of my favorite legendaries, so it hurts to see him forever relegated to a side quest in SM
yeah, having an entire sidequest and actually getting to use one of its new forms in a playthrough was much worse than kyurem being used as a cuck battery for a ship, fighting it in a single piss easy battle after a cutscene, then finding it in the exact same location as BW in the post-game. We were robbed bros!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 21:53:03 No.50047109 Report

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>>50047068
Zygarde is always going to be a tragedy. Mysterious start to be further expanded on in the next game, but due to time constraints they try to include some ideas about his power level in his next game, but it's still obviously incomplete. I just hope that by the time they explore the region again (whether a Legends or a remake), the people who originally thought it up are off doing other things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 01:36:41 No.50048492 Report

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>>50046594
Based Zedfags are scarce but know their shit
Thankfully gen 6 was ended on a high note

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 01:39:19 No.50048506 Report

Quoted By: >>50048636

>>50046959
>Are one of the best in the series, fuck off
Based. Traditional Japanese-based region >>>>>>>>>>> all the others that are basically Kanto clones

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 01:59:14 No.50048636 Report

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>>50048506
How are any of the regions, except maybe Sinnoh, aesthetic or even layout clones of Kanto

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 02:07:04 No.50048678 Report

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>>50046540
>you will never be transported to an alternate reality where Z exists
it hurts so fucking much bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 02:07:27 No.50048682 Report

Quoted By: >>50049620

>>50046873
I think it was to provide a same sex balance since Shauna already wants to fuck the player in XY, and Z only gave her more screentime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 02:50:23 No.50048903 Report

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>>50046540
It would have fixed everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 02:53:11 No.50048917 Report

Quoted By: >>50049379

>>50046812
>No, it was better because the campaign wasn't any shorter or linear
How do I access Route 12 before finishing the campaign?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:02:09 No.50049379 Report

Quoted By: >>50049413

>>50048917
>implying that the number of routes signifies the length of the game
Ah yes, Ruby and Sapphire, easily the longest and most daunting of the Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:06:23 No.50049413 Report

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>>50049379
It does have a longer campaign than BW, yes. Now how do I get to route 12 in BW before finishing the campaign?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:07:28 No.50049422 Report

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I'm glad they moved the fossil cave to after the second gym, it did a lot to help the pacing of the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:12:17 No.50049457 Report

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>proper rival battle with Calem/Serena in Santalune forest
>better gym teams
>team flare has writing that fits a death cult for the rich instead of talking like every other evil team
>mega stones during the campaign
>better teams for gym leaders and elite 4
it doesn't get much better than Pokemon Z
>captcha: XXXYM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:18:47 No.50049503 Report

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>>50046675
Even without considering a Z it felt unfinished in terms of plot points, like how everything to do with Xerneas and its forms was just given through a short exposition before fighting it. Same goes for underdeveloped ideas like Rhyhorn Racing, or Lysandre's machine/outfit at the end having no explanation (possibly supposed to be related to Clemont?). Not to mention the pre-release artwork suggesting that Colress was supposed to tie into the Looker subplot, and he would've fit right in with the whole Mega Stone story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 04:40:19 No.50049620 Report

Quoted By: >>50049765

>>50048682
Okay but how does that explain that NTR speech he gave where he said he was going to steal you away from Shauna and your rival? And don't tell me it's not NTR there were big NTR vibes there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 05:05:32 No.50049765 Report

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>>50049620
Probably coping with his implied divorce with Malva.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 06:09:12 No.50050097 Report

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>>50046550
>shill cope #3 pic
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 06:10:12 No.50050103 Report

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>>50046795
>[fanfic], [fanfic], [fanfic]
I respect your wrong opinion, galarcuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 12:05:57 No.50051124 Report

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>>50046540
Fake and Gay

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