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Why did GameFreak give up on making difficulty modes?

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:04:54 No.50050934 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:05:57 No.50050937 Report

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because sinnoh sucks lol

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:06:07 No.50050938 Report

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because everything gen 5 did was a mistake.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:08:25 No.50050950 Report

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>>50050934
because it didn't actually add difficulty and anyone who cares about getting difficulty from pokemon already just plays PvP.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:11:13 No.50050955 Report

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Because difficulty modes are retarded

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 11:44:19 No.50051028 Report

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Two lazy buffoons are in charge of the franchise.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:28:43 No.50052041 Report

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>>50051028
>The difficulty level is also related to the amount of Pokemon you carry
And they say that about SwSh of all Pokemon games. fucking faggets
usually it's making a bigger team that takes more effort but rewards you, and here it's "pick less Pokemon if you want the game to be harder™", all for it to be a fucking breeze then

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:30:51 No.50052055 Report

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>>50050934
Challenge Mode was so ubtuse to unlock that few people even bothered (This is on Gamefreak for the record) and IIRC Challenge Mode actually made a couple of fights easier cause the new teams were worse or something.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:37:05 No.50052099 Report

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>>50052055
>Challenge Mode actually made a couple of fights easier cause the new teams were worse or something.
It's sort of a mix of that and the fact you'd end up higher leveled (and thus end up with stronger Pokemon with better moves) sooner.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:38:18 No.50052105 Report

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>>50050934
Absolutely 0% players played it due to retarded unlock method

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:43:20 No.50052146 Report

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>>50050934
Because GF is the epitome of one step forward two steps backward. They'd rather come up with some flashy new half-assed gimmick instead of polishing old beloved features that weren't perfect.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:51:47 No.50052209 Report

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>>50052099
in addition to this, the game actually calculates enemy stats before applying the challenge mode level adjustment, so enemies are statistically weaker than they appear

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:53:36 No.50052227 Report

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>Easy Mode
Gen 1 style. Trainer pokemon have their level up sets and that’s it. 0 ivs, 0 evs, neutral nature. Exp share and affection always on
>Standard Mode
Boss trainers may have a few evs and their movesets have tms added for coverage. AI uses modicum of strategy. Exp share togglable, affection togglable
>Challenge
All trainers use good natures, have perfect ivs, and ev spreads (how many evs depends on how far in the game you are). Gym leaders use more variety in teams to counter weaknesses and past the third gym all have a full team of 6. Trainers may switch out pokemon. Trainer pokemon may have hidden abilities or egg moves. No affection, exp share not given until after defeating the champion. Power items and a gift pokemon with pokerus given early on to accomodate. Wild pokemon may rarely be found with their hidden ability.
Would this work?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:55:39 No.50052234 Report

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>>50052227
Somewhat, yeah.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:56:07 No.50052236 Report

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>>50052227
No because Pokemon games are meant to be replayed and you’ve made it where anyone that didn’t play through on hard mode is at a permanent disadvantage.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:58:51 No.50052249 Report

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>>50052236
*NOT meant to be replayed.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:59:57 No.50052257 Report

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>implement a difficulty mode
>have to beat game to unlock it
>delete save to replay on hard mode
>now the hard mode key is gone
t-thanks

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 15:59:59 No.50052258 Report

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>>50052236
I fail to see the problem. Could have standard mode give you the power items and pokerus after beating the champion and wild pokemon could also spawn with HA as well. If you play on easy mode then you must either be an illiterate child or game journalist and so you wouldn’t enjoy competitive anyway

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 16:10:57 No.50052321 Report

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>>50052258
This attitude is exactly why they don’t add difficulty modes, just mucks up the game design and results in retarded community gatekeeping

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 16:15:44 No.50052341 Report

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>>50050934
They never really tried

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 16:23:45 No.50052385 Report

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>>50050934
The Key System was retarded and this made GF think “Arrrrrr gaijin hate whore concept, scrap it0

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 16:32:37 No.50052438 Report

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>>50052227
I thought Unbound handled difficulty modes pretty well. You have Causal Mode for the traditional Pokemon game feel, Hard Mode for something a bit more challenging, Expert Mode for those want EVs and natures to matter, and Mega Autism Mode for the most masochistic players.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:03:46 No.50052639 Report

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>>50052249
I dunno, SwSh definitely feels like it was made to be replayed and especially Isle of Armor (That has pretty good marks for doing its various steps at different points during the gym challenge the main issue is honestly more that the Exp Charm isn't optional if you are going for Kubfu or the Gift KANTOOOOO Starter) pretty easy to do too what with multiple profiles basically meaning multiple "Save Slots", not to mention that the DLCs do those "Pick One" choices with Urshifu, Horses and Regis, yeah they encourage Trading but they also encouraged replaying. Hell even Stadium and Box basically basically encouraged it since you could transfer all your shit and then restart Ranch did not, so FUCK Ranch. so they clearly know people like replaying.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:05:10 No.50052649 Report

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>>50052227
>Would this work?
No.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:06:07 No.50052657 Report

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it will never be a challenge so long as they continue to use single battles

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:10:49 No.50052680 Report

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Yeah yeah we get it, BW was shit when it came to implementing difficulty options, that wasn't what was asked though, and also isn't the purpose of bringing something back is to IMPROVE on it? You know, fix your mistakes and get it right? "It was shit back then" isn't even an excuse, it's just dumb logic, a bunch of things were shit back then but git bought back and made decent or good.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:13:55 No.50052693 Report

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>>50052680
>and also isn't the purpose of bringing something back is to IMPROVE on it?
They did IMPROVE on it. If you click the "VS" button in Sword and Shield, you'll find a hard mode where you get to battle trainers and there's a forced lv50 level cap so you can't overlevel, you can't use bag items so you can't just cheese battles with revives and x items, the trainers actually have EVs and good movesets, and they're as intelligent as humans. Go nuts!

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:21:02 No.50052747 Report

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>>50052657
I think GameFreak clearly wants to move away from 1v1 in general, and not just for the VGC but even for the main game where they experimented with 2vs2 wild encounters, Horde encounters, SOS, Dynamax raids (4 Players VS 1 Super Mon), LGPE "Assist" (Basically 2vs1 cheat mode) and wild Mons "linking" and some "Trainers" using several at once against you in PLA (though the cohorts are usually weaker).

Doesn't mean Gamefreak wants it to be harder though, but i think they pretty obviously want to move away from Singles. And Doubles will always be funny to me since they started as a Anime thing.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:22:48 No.50052760 Report

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>>50052693
>Full of shitters who copy teams or just use 6 legendaries
Pokémon as a competitive game will always be a joke

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:23:31 No.50052769 Report

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>>50052760
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE POKEMON IN A POKEMON GAME
anti-legendaryfags are hilarious

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:23:59 No.50052775 Report

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>>50052760
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT DIFFICULTY
Why complain about not having a difficulty mode then?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:27:05 No.50052804 Report

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>>50052769
>greentext making up shit to be pissed at
There’s a difference between using a cohesive team of legendaries and just using 6 because your monkey brain thinks legendary Pokémon are automatically good.
>>50052775
>Yet another case of making up arguments that aren’t being made
?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:33:41 No.50052854 Report

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> gen 5
> spend time/resources on hard mode
> sell millions
> gen 8
> save as much money as possible by recycling assets and having interns design the new pokemon
> sell even more millions

gee is almost like it's not a noteworthy profit addition

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:53:01 No.50052986 Report

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>>50052769
I honestly find the Anti-Legendary mentality pretty weird because people always ignore quite a few Legendarily have traditionally gotten cucked out doing of in-game challenges anyway until SM (Can do Normal Battle Tree) and SwSh (That lets them do the Tower and Raids), so people who like them usually don't even have that much opportunity to use em outside of some fringe cases, hell i think plenty of shit is still cucked out of SwSh Restricted Sparring and the BDSP Battle Tower.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:56:20 No.50053010 Report

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>Muh Anti Legendary
Yeah bro people are totally mad about Articuno being in Ubers

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:57:40 No.50053018 Report

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>>50053010
Yes.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:58:04 No.50053022 Report

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>>50053010
No

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:33:20 No.50053195 Report

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>>50053010
That reminds me of back when Smogonfags told people to stop using Charizard because it had like OU usage % in spite of being garbage at the time due sheer pupularity or something and that kept them from putting it in a lower tier due how they worked stuff out, was like during GenIV i think cause Stealth Rock, i barely remember it and may have imagined it.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:35:28 No.50053207 Report

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>>50053195
>may have imagined it.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:36:55 No.50053215 Report

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>>50051028
>Dude just play with 6 Magikarps if you want a challenge we can't be arsed to give more option to the players lmao
I can't believe this is coming from the mouth of real game developer who would be fucking massacred if it wasn't the holder of a ez money printing franchise

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:47:22 No.50053281 Report

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>>50053195
That's not unique to Charizard. Retards keep shitmons trapped in high tiers all the time. They should implement an ELO floor for their usage statistics.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:50:14 No.50053295 Report

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>>50053207
It was over a decade ago anon, and not all of us have eidetic memory about funny Pokemon stories, i did a quick search and i think it might this https://www.smogon.com/smog/issue21/bottom_barrel

Seems to been Gen5, so i was indeed misremembering details if that was it, or im mixing up several incidents, because i swear usage % was involved in the argument and it was a forum post rather then a article and it was Gen4 because it was when /v/ Pokémon General was a thing.

>>50053281
True, it was just the immediate thing that popped into my mind.

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