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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:06:49 No.50057268 View View Reply Original Report

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I just realized… do people in the Pokemon world run the risk of falling in love with a Pokemon pretending to be human? What if you just one day learned you were married to Suicune or something?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:08:17 No.50057275 Report

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>>50057268

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:08:29 No.50057277 Report

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>learn my girlfriend is a pokemon
Bonus!

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:37:30 No.50057377 Report

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>>50057268
There are very few Pokemon who can transform into humans, namely Ninetales, Latias, Zorua and Ditto.
Judging by Latias, the rare type of Pokemon who will romantically prefer humans are likely to have a desire to fit in as humans themselves, seeing how Latias was way more comfortable when Ash was around her to be in her human form, she was really showing off her human body and human manners, she wanted to be seen and to be desired as an actual human girl and she strived to have a human girl mindset, add to that her apparently being able to draw.
Effectively she wouldn't be any different from a real human since she wouldn't like transforming into a Pokemon TOO often herself.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:42:14 No.50057388 Report

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>>50057268
>What if you just one day learned you were married to Suicune or something?
Any man would be jumping for joy

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:57:16 No.50057424 Report

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>>50057388
What if the mon was male?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 09:17:40 No.50057743 Report

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>>50057377
Mew probably could if it wanted to.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 09:47:26 No.50057814 Report

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>>50057268
I imagine all the mythicals have the ability to have a human form and a few Legendaries have this power.
So they can exist in the human world with out getting into a fear of being caught.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 09:53:50 No.50057830 Report

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>>50057743
What is Latias in the movie a metaphor for? I don't understand it. There's obviously some deeper meaning to her character but I can't quite pinpoint it exactly.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 10:04:23 No.50057845 Report

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>>50057830
The magical princess usually of the hero's journey.
Here's what I think celebi would look like human.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 10:11:40 No.50057849 Report

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>>50057268
God what a dream

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 10:31:15 No.50057883 Report

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Not my fault females pokemon are addicted to their human trainers

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 10:33:41 No.50057889 Report

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>>50057268
Zorua and Zoroark would be the hardest ones to find out if they are human.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 11:57:20 No.50058067 Report

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thatd be nice, not sure how thatd work, but itd be nice

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 13:35:30 No.50058401 Report

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>>50057377
>add to that her apparently being able to draw
Wasn't that Bianca though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 13:36:30 No.50058406 Report

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>>50057277
>She's a Garbodor

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 13:40:00 No.50058420 Report

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>>50057424
even better

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 13:42:19 No.50058426 Report

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>>50057268
Literally happened in one of the PLA quests

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 14:00:49 No.50058485 Report

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>>50057268
related

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 14:13:37 No.50058531 Report

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>>50057268
Take your meds and stop asking inane questions

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 14:26:18 No.50058586 Report

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>>50058401
No, because the original Japanese audio track had no mention of her during the kiss. That was a dub-only line, most likely added in when the bigwigs realised the story still overtly implied it was Latias kissing him.
The gif shows it better, Pikachu's reaction is that of a friend, happy his bestie hooked wp with a hot pokémon, Brock's stunned to fuck Ash got kissed by a pokémon cosplaying as a girl and Misty sits shell-shocked as she realises she'll never be able to compete with a cute, sexy, shapeshifting Dragon/Psychic plane creature for Ash's heart. It's hilarious people still retreat to the dub, when the dub alwways bowdlerises the subject matter, due to NoA being puritanical fucks when they started localising this for the easy money.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 14:55:25 No.50058704 Report

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>>50058586
Honestly even the subs are cowards. Just commit, you're never going to let Latias show up again unfortunately, so let Latias kiss Ash as herself

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 14:59:45 No.50058726 Report

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>>50057268
oh no, that would suck
haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 15:17:44 No.50058817 Report

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>>50058401
>>50058586
There’s also the secret message when Serena kissed Ash.
>Latias, but with the mouth

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 15:49:25 No.50059000 Report

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>>50058586
IMO Latias's character is loosely based on the Japanese folklore legend of "Tsuru no Ongaeshi"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuru_no_Ongaeshi

still trying to decipher the morale of this movie, however hard I try to think about it, I can't help but feel that there's a layer of depth hidden in...that I can't realize

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 15:51:34 No.50059012 Report

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>>50057268
>I just realized… do people in the Pokemon world run the risk of falling in love with a Pokemon pretending to be human?
Nah. The Pokemon world is a utopian society, so without all the racism, pollution, war, poverty, and other stressors, there are probably extremely few if any mentally ill people. Well, except for team leaders who are bored with their utopian society, but even THEY are relatively tame.
>What if you just one day learned you were married to Suicune or something?
I'd just be grossed the fuck out and have the Pokemon euthanized. Part of me would wonder what some minor deitymon saw in me that would make it think my lame, useless ass was worth marrying, though.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 15:58:44 No.50059058 Report

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>>50059000
The "hidden depth" is that poképhilia exists and the humans accept it, as Ash didn't get shunned or abused for kissing a pokémon (never mind the fact Johto arc had his Chikorita/Bayleef act lovesick and amorous and no-one batted an eyelid).

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:20:15 No.50059165 Report

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>>50059012
>Well, except for team leaders who are bored with their utopian society, but even THEY are relatively tame.
Team Rocket is literally the Mafia and like half of the villain teams after them were apocalyptic threats.
It's like not having to worry about Tyrone stealing your bike but in exchange having to deal with the looming threat of some weirdo who doesn't like paying his heating bill triggering a runaway methane global warming scenario and making the planet uninhabitable to life as we know it

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:20:41 No.50059169 Report

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>>50059058
Nah, that's not it. This is a franchise for young children. I agree with the anon that believes that Latias was based on some magical princess fable, where a disguised princess sneaks out to explore a world she's unfamiliar with but has always been curious about.

Even if there were some kind of philia involved, it wouldn't be Pokephilia. It would be some kind of anthropophilia or imprinting because Latias shows interest in ASH.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:25:31 No.50059189 Report

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>>50059165
>Team Rocket is literally the Mafia and like half of the villain teams after them were apocalyptic threats
They're still super watered down, kids cartoon versions of that. Justice always prevails; "enemies" become great friends. The Pokemon world might not have even been so bad had the bad guys won.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:30:39 No.50059217 Report

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>>50057377
Wait how can Ninetales turn into a human

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:33:16 No.50059233 Report

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>>50059217
ninetales can create illusions in the anime or something, not turning into a woman but whatever

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:37:45 No.50059252 Report

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>>50059233
Oh okay that makes sense

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:54:23 No.50059343 Report

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>>50059058
>>50059169
>Ash didn't get shunned or abused for kissing a pokémon
And Brock didn’t get shunned for loudly blurting out “I’m so jealous of Ash whether that was a Pokemon or not”.
>I agree with the anon that believes that Latias was based on some magical princess fable, where a disguised princess sneaks out to explore a world she's unfamiliar with but has always been curious about.
She wasn’t sneaking out though, everyone knew it was her. I would take things at face value, I doubt I they were trying to reference anything.
The hidden depth is the gradual revelation of Latias’ humanity. At first you think she’s just another magic animal, but that notion starts to slip away as they develop her character through the movie, and it all builds up to her kissing a human boy, the ultimate affirmation of her personhood.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:55:30 No.50059349 Report

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>>50057268
I want to marry Latias.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:06:40 No.50059413 Report

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>>50058586
I understand that, but I recall Latias as Bianca wasn't shown with the art supplies when the drawing was made

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:10:12 No.50059432 Report

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>>50057377
>There are very few Pokemon who can transform into humans, namely Ninetales, Latias, Zorua and Ditto.
Also Froslass, as of PLA.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:17:15 No.50059476 Report

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>>50059432
Frosslass being able to do that was implied in OG DP when you meet that lonely lady in the cabin near Snowpoint who gives you a Spell Tag, then disappears forever afterward. NPCs mention that ghosts are a common thing in the area.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:23:11 No.50059523 Report

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>>50057268
Yes, Especially when the pretty girls wants Ash so very much.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:30:51 No.50059573 Report

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>>50059343
>She wasn’t sneaking out though [...]
Too much to quote here, but there is a reason I used "based on" (and I should've said 'loosely') in my post. I actually don't think there's a deep, underlying message at all. All I see are base-level parallels between that princess trope and some of Latias' behavior in the movie's plot. I mentioned the sneaking out bit because that's what the princess usually does (or runs away) in those kinds of tales. Interesting interpretation, though.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:30:51 No.50059574 Report

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I Wish Bianca could go on a date with Ash. Like to hangout for a while.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:36:16 No.50059607 Report

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>>50058406
no, only the hot pokemon get to pretend to be a human

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:10:10 No.50059804 Report

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>>50059607
Would you?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:17:59 No.50059857 Report

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>>50059804
There's a theory that she is Natural's mother

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:19:22 No.50059864 Report

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>>50057268
Only a few pokemon can turn into humans and all of them are fairly rare

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:04:39 No.50060132 Report

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>>50057377
Ghastly (anime), Spiritomb (PLA, vague feeling of others), ditto lol :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:24:23 No.50060222 Report

Quoted By: >>50060231

>>50059857
But N is a Zoroark.
And pokemon children always look like the mother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:27:06 No.50060231 Report

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>>50060222
N's mother was a human, his father was a pokémon and Ghetsis paid his mother off to adopt him for his twisted plans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:37:57 No.50060270 Report

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>>50058067
>how to make Eusine kill himself in one sentence:
I learned that my bride is a Suicune after we fucked during our wedding night, she came literal buckets…

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:41:29 No.50060287 Report

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>>50058531
get out

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 21:11:09 No.50060832 Report

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>>50058485
I can't help but wonder what happened next in this scene

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