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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:38:56 No.50059258 View View Reply Original Report

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serebiibros... pchalsisters...
the johtochads are refuting all of our fabricated arguments with objective infographics...
what's next, they expose that our beloved unova has no real identity and is just a mix match of random themes compared to johto which has a very obvious and honed-in identity?
quick, get to the discord so we can discuss plan b!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:44:29 No.50059288 Report

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Erase all the ones that aren't Johtomons

BTFO yet again. Stay silent boomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:46:36 No.50059299 Report

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>>50059288
Okay, as long as we also remove all the old Pokémon in B2W2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:46:48 No.50059302 Report

Quoted By: >>50060329

>>50059288
Actually I'm not done. You can go to the Crown Tundra and IoA before the frost gym so you have to count those mons as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:48:29 No.50059309 Report

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>>50059258
Is the wild area just random encounters? Because I'm pretty sure you can get a whole array of raid encounters that aren't listed here like charmander

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:48:51 No.50059312 Report

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>>50059288
>erase pokemkon that you can get in the game in a graphic about Pokémon you can get in the game
Cope PChud. You and your lover Merrick have being spreading lies for years and idiot zoomer followers have fallen for them, but you’re unable to gaslight people who have been with the franchise long enough to know you’re full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 16:50:08 No.50059320 Report

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>>50059258
why do you need so many mons before the first gym? the gym leader has 2 mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:14:28 No.50059458 Report

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>>50059288
And I assume that mind set applies to all gens?

Man, can't believe Sinnoh really just had 1 fire type and 1 ice type the whole game. And that's still worse than Johto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:16:27 No.50059468 Report

Quoted By: >>50059518

>>50059320
>Why do I want to build a team early to take on most of the game instead of grinding a Bagon/Deino to level 50 and 60 before fighting the elite 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:18:41 No.50059490 Report

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>>50059258
>arbitrarily pick the first gym as the point of reference instead of all the main game
>muh infographics
Johtofags are getting so desperate it's pathetic. It would all be over if you just admitted the game is flawed and you just like it because of nostalgia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:19:26 No.50059495 Report

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>>50059258
>still trying to blame your boogeyman for years of posts
The full game comparisons, which you conveniently left out, show that other games have better distribution after gym 1-3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:22:26 No.50059518 Report

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>>50059468
>late game pseudos bad now
Okay, explain how Larvitar isn't an absolute disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:25:02 No.50059541 Report

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>>50059288
Based as fuck

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:26:03 No.50059544 Report

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>>50059518
Because you can get it the minute you step foot in Kanto and have an entire post game to train it in if you aren't brain dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:28:51 No.50059561 Report

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>>50059258
>johto
>identity
maybe if boring counts as an identity lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:36:58 No.50059615 Report

Quoted By: >>50059623 >>50061273

>>50059490
>Infographics bad because they don't fit my opinion.

Here's one for you that doesn't need an info chart:
>Johto gives the player 105 families of Pokemon to use during the Johto campaign. For comparison, gen 5 gives the player 76 during its main campaign.

>If we use the in-between badges to quantify it, gen 2 offers more opportunities for a variety of team members than gen 5. It is also better in a Pokemon game to front load it with options so you're not stuck raising a late level evolution to do just the elite 4.

>Johto has 6 "new" families of pokemon in post game.

Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:38:43 No.50059623 Report

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>>50059615
niggerlicious shitmons like hoothoot and sentret and ledyba and spinarak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:49:27 No.50059680 Report

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>>50059623
>Implying patrat is not a shit mon.
>Impyling Purrloin is not a shit mon
>Implying Alomomola is not a shit mon
>Implying Pansear is not a shit mon
>Implying Audino is anything but a big bag of exp
>Implying Pidove is not a shit mon.
>Implying Maractus is not a shit mon.
>Implying Dwebble is not a shit mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:50:35 No.50059685 Report

Quoted By: >>50059747

I don't follow Discord drama, what does this image tries to imply?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:51:23 No.50059689 Report

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>>50059680
all more soulful than johtrannymons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:00:20 No.50059740 Report

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>>50059544
>an entire post game
Which is later than other pseudos being available after gym 8, so it must be bad if they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:01:07 No.50059745 Report

Quoted By: >>50059832

I'm both a johtofag and a unovafag
Why are you guys fighting each other when the shittiest region is clearly galar it's fucking garbage in every way possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:01:25 No.50059747 Report

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>>50059685
Trying to defend Johto by cutting out parts of the game until they find one that "proves" everything else is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:03:48 No.50059759 Report

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>>50059258
bw2's selection was pretty based ngl

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:08:02 No.50059793 Report

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>>50059490
list of fully evolved pokemon available before elite four fight, first versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:09:10 No.50059800 Report

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>>50059680
>Talking shit about my nigga Crustle
Fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:14:45 No.50059832 Report

Quoted By: >>50059846

>>50059745
>>50059745
Excellent taste, johto is my favorite region but I respect the direction Unova went, having only new Pokémon was a nice change of pace and helped a Unova feel unique and I believe Johto literally be perfect if if had put more emphasis on the Gen 2 Pokémon since it would result in Game Freak respecting the region more.
> Why are you guys fighting each other when the shittiest region is clearly galar it's fucking garbage in every way possible
Because they’re stupid to realize that Galarbage are the ones falseflagging and shitposting about both regions to make Galar looks better. Johto is a target because it’s the oldest non-Kanto region while Unova is a target because of muh-sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:16:39 No.50059846 Report

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>>50059832
No one cares to shit on Galar because everyone except unironic shills and shitposters universally hate it.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:38:26 No.50059976 Report

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>>50059258
johtosisters...why are we so incompetent... we forgot to double-check the facts... who knows what other inaccuracies are here... how else are we supposed to pretend this is the best region...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:45:38 No.50060010 Report

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>>50059976
>postgame swarm

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:48:19 No.50060023 Report

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>>50060010
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_102

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:50:35 No.50060043 Report

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>>50060023

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:57:19 No.50060081 Report

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>>50060043

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:10:20 No.50060162 Report

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>>50060023
It's 1% without swarm. 50% with swarm. Regardless, it's not postgame only like DPPt swarms are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:16:15 No.50060187 Report

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>>50060162
l2r: >>50059976 >>50060010

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:34:27 No.50060259 Report

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>>50060187
It's also available prior without swarm with 1% chance. Again, it's not like in DP where swarm Pokemon are postgame only. You literally didn't read the link. Both Seedot and Lotad are available prior to the first gym in Emerald. If you're not counting Seedot because it's 1% then you shouldn't count Skitty either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:40:13 No.50060277 Report

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>>50059258
>got btfo in the other thread so he made a new one
Reminder that Unova has 35 Pokemon available before the 1st gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:42:52 No.50060289 Report

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>>50060081
>>50060162
>>50060259
You LITERALLY cannot find it in Emerald without a swarm.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:43:24 No.50060292 Report

Quoted By: >>50060337 >>50060793

>>50060289
Forgot to attach pic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:44:48 No.50060298 Report

Quoted By: >>50060308

>>50059258
Now remove all the shitmons tied to the day/night cycle or have 1% encounter rates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:46:41 No.50060308 Report

Quoted By: >>50060325

>>50060298
>more arbitrary barriers to fit you're argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:47:37 No.50060315 Report

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>>50059258
15~20 mons before the first gym is a good mix of various mons that can serve as a good start to a team.
45 is too many.
Galar somehow managed to be even more soulless than Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:49:22 No.50060325 Report

Quoted By: >>50060345 >>50060350 >>50063455

>>50060308
1% encounter rate shitmons and mons you can only get at very specific times or under very specific conditions =/= good distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:49:39 No.50060329 Report

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>>50059302
I was gonna post just to state that, say what you want about SwSh, but when it comes to early Mon availability it is defacto king due how the Wild Area and Expansion Pass functions.

Though i guess it is a bit unequal since the first gym is Level 20 (Still only 2 mons like most first gyms), while in most other game it is level 10 (when you can go to Wild Area and IoA), but that is honestly pretty irrelevant since it should be not that much more playtime or effort.

Seeing how you seem to use Trials as badge equivalent, would you consider the Noble Kleavor fight to be "Gym 1" in PLA since it gives a stamp? Just in theory i mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:51:39 No.50060337 Report

Quoted By: >>50060343

>>50060292
It literally says Seedot E 1%. For Swarm it says 50%. It's 1% outside of swarm and 50% when swarming. Are you illiterate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:52:58 No.50060343 Report

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>>50060337
Apologies, thought you were talking about Surskit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:54:12 No.50060345 Report

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>>50060325
Bort

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:54:43 No.50060348 Report

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>>50059258
Unovabortions BTFO, as usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:55:49 No.50060350 Report

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>>50060325
... he says as he goes back to shilling his Drayano hacks with 12 new encounters per route with half of them being 1-5% rates

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:56:07 No.50060351 Report

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>>50059258
If that weren't bad enough, the other day a Johgoddler stole my dilator and wouldn't give it back until I admitted thay Johto's level curve is fine and that my crotch wound will never be a real vagina. How can we stop Johtochads and their rampant transphobia?!?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:59:20 No.50060368 Report

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>>50059258
>Before the first gym
Aka when alolasites stop playing the game. What a meaningless and disingenuous point of comparison.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:05:17 No.50060404 Report

Quoted By: >>50060427 >>50060517

You faggots have been at this for multiple months now. Is this insecurity, false flagging or a genuine dicord raid? Because this amount of obsession for both these regions is concerning, whether you like them or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:08:54 No.50060427 Report

Quoted By: >>50060462

>>50060404
>or a genuine dicord raid?
It has been for months now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:13:55 No.50060462 Report

Quoted By: >>50060510

>>50060427
Surely they have something better to do. No one would unironically stay here 24/7 posting the exact same shit ad nauseum on a dead board, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:21:34 No.50060510 Report

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>>50060462
>Surely they have something better to do.
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:22:15 No.50060517 Report

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>>50060404
There's a mix of discorder spam and genuine johto defender desperation. Some posts we know came from the disorders, but then other people copied them and continued to post because they like anything that says "johto good" no matter how obviously biased it is.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 20:37:48 No.50060619 Report

Quoted By: >>50061271

I mean Unova IS a bunch of mix-match concepts thrown together, but that is precisely the point; it's the melting pot USA region.

Anyway, when did people start caring so much about this "identity" shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 21:01:36 No.50060793 Report

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>>50060259
>>50060289
>>50060292
learn
to
fucking
read

>>50059976 is about LOTAD in EMERALD which this >>50060010 retard made a baseless claim about which >>50060023 refutes

JFC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 21:26:50 No.50060929 Report

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>>50059793
>Kalos has the widest variety, making it the best
Based

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:21:13 No.50061256 Report

Quoted By: >>50061270 >>50061325 >>50061335

>>50059793
MY TURN MY TURN!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:23:30 No.50061270 Report

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>>50061256
>arbitrary barriers to fit your narrative

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:23:49 No.50061271 Report

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>>50060619
Whatever new meme allows people to shit on Johto or Unova will always be popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:24:23 No.50061273 Report

Quoted By: >>50061302

>>50059615
ah yes, viable team members like umm. unowns and dunsparce

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:28:09 No.50061302 Report

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>>50061273
dunsparce is viable for the first few gyms if you happen to find one
I have used it in an actual playthrough, speaking from experience
it's bulky and has STAB Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:32:06 No.50061325 Report

Quoted By: >>50061342

>>50061256
>one per game
Why do you guys get so upset and save all these pictures when you don't even play the games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:33:02 No.50061335 Report

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>>50061256
Just because you don't use something doesn't mean no one does. I love Furret, Noctowl, Stantler, Sunflora and Girafarig and have used them all on multiple playthroughs.
Also the "one per game" thing doesn't make sense for Espeon and Umbreon because Ditto and the daycare are literally RIGHT THERE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:33:30 No.50061342 Report

Quoted By: >>50061372 >>50061531

>>50061325
only a furry fag is spending the time to get both an umbreon and espeon on their team

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 22:38:14 No.50061372 Report

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>>50059258
Before the first gym in BW is probably the worst part of the game, I've been saying this for a while.
>>50059793
On the other hand, I find it interesting that DP's pool of Pokemon is barely more than BW's and is so much fucking worse. I'd probably prefer something like Hoenn's overall but BW is probably the best ~150 dex (RB is a solid second while DP is distantly last). XY's just has way too much going on to the point that you won't hardly use any of those Pokemon no matter how many times you play the game, everyone ends up using the same shit as much as you do in DP ironically enough.
>>50061342
I mean you're given an Eevee right after the breeding route which also conveniently has a Ditto on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 23:01:30 No.50061531 Report

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>>50061342
Okay. Does that make them one per game? Would it help you understand if I made a picture with colorful labels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 23:04:25 No.50061547 Report

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>>50059258
>unova is the worst…again
and everything is good in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Mar 2022 04:02:36 No.50063455 Report

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>>50060325
this, just started up a new game of crystal a couple hours ago, been hunting for a dark cave dunsparce for like 40 minutes, nothing

1% means it almost may as well not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Mar 2022 10:06:53 No.50064819 Report

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>>50059288
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