/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #50216707

[240 / 24 / 73]

2MiB, 1388x1388, Jan.png

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:21:44 No.50216707 View View Reply Original Report

>Gen II has bad distribution!
>Gen V has the best distribution in the series!

>Gen II pre-1st badge: Starter, Sentret, Pidgey, Rattata, Geodude, Phanpy, Zubat, Dunsparce, Bellsprout, Caterpie, Weedle, Poliwag, Teddiursa, Onix, Gastly, Unown, Growlithe, Hoothoot, Ledyba, Spinarak
>Gen V pre-1st badge: Starter, Lillipup, Patrat, Purrloin and elemental monkey

Why do they lie this flagrantly?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO the problem with unova.png, 1MiB, 1268x2746

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:22:38 No.50216711 Report

Quoted By: >>50217408 >>50217931 >>50220440 >>50222754 >>50222776 >>50223102

Here's a better visualisation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:24:09 No.50216719 Report

Quoted By: >>50218031

>>50216707
because borts a born liar. why else would they say that there’s good pokemons in their gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:24:21 No.50216722 Report

Quoted By: >>50216742 >>50216743 >>50216975 >>50218243

>>50216707
I would never be caught dead using any of those low BST shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:27:02 No.50216742 Report

Quoted By: >>50216752 >>50216767 >>50216853

>>50216722
>Crobat
>Steelix
>Gengar
>Arcanine
>Golem
>Vicbreebel
>Starter
>low BST
Lmfao, nice try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:27:23 No.50216743 Report

Quoted By: >>50217376

>>50216722
Of all those, only
>Furret
>Raticate
>Dunsparce
>Butterfree
>Beedrill
>Unown
>Noctowl
>Ledian
>Ariados
can be called shitmons, and out of those, only
>Dunsparce
>Unown
>Ledian
are truly unusable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:28:20 No.50216752 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216742
Don't forget Poliwrath/Politoed - two evo choices from one Pokemon with 500bst :D

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:30:22 No.50216767 Report

Quoted By: >>50216775 >>50216781 >>50216785 >>50216844 >>50216864 >>50216975 >>50217078 >>50217338 >>50220517

>>50216742
Trade evos don't count because you need another system. Stone evos dont count because they're postgame and friendship evos might as well be postgame too since they take so long. So yes golbat, onix, haunter, etc are low BST shit mons and I will not use them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:31:49 No.50216775 Report

Quoted By: >>50216778

>>50216767
t. Friendless bort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:32:36 No.50216778 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216775
take the L incel toddle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:32:45 No.50216781 Report

Quoted By: >>50221677

>>50216767
>IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE... BECAUSE I SAID SO, OKAY?!!
>WHY YES, SINNOH IS MY FAVOURITE REGION HOW COULD YOU TELL?!!
>I SURE DO LOVE ONLY HAVING TWO FIRE-TYPES BEFORE POSTGAME?!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:33:20 No.50216785 Report

Quoted By: >>50216806 >>50222651

>>50216767
>Trade evos don't count because you need another system
No, you can do it via emulator or if you're using original hardware, Pokemon Stadium 2. Next.
>Stone evos dont count because they're postgame
Lies - in Crystal (the definitive version) there are trainers that give you the stone, and if they're the only contact in your phone they will call you within 30 minutes playtime to give you the stone.
>friendship evos might as well be postgame too since they take so long
Lies - you are clearly shit at the game lmao

You lose faggot. Stop being shit at Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:36:11 No.50216806 Report

Quoted By: >>50216815 >>50216825

>>50216785
>emulator
I can also do it via pkhex lmfao, what a stupid argument.
>there are trainers that give you the stone, and if they're the only contact in your phone they will call you within 30 minutes playtime to give you the stone
Sorry I play the game like a normal person not a deranged autist.
>Lies - you are clearly shit at the game lmao
>You lose faggot. Stop being shit at Pokemon.
Crybaby johtoddler, your game is shit and the easiest in the series with the worst Pokemon distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:38:06 No.50216815 Report

Quoted By: >>50216826

>>50216806
>with the worst Pokemon distribution
The OP and fpbp in this thread clearly show the contrary, you salty loser. Once more you are just jealous that Gen II is and always will be one of the best Gens.

>I play the game like a normal person
You're simping for a Poke Youtube on /v/ 24 hours a day - you are anything but normal. You are, however, shit at the games, lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:38:25 No.50216818 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
Guys, it feels so good to be able to enjoy games instead of losing my shit over other people at the other side of the world liking them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:39:26 No.50216825 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216806
>it's a stupid argument because...IT JUST IS OKAY?
wow borts will say anything to fit their narrative huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:39:49 No.50216826 Report

Quoted By: >>50216832 >>50216880

>>50216815
You showed nothing, if anything I'm mad I wasted hours of my life playing the shittiest Pokemon games created.
>b-b-but the Internet man said so
Don't even know who that is and rent free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:41:19 No.50216832 Report

Quoted By: >>50216843

>>50216826
>Starter, Sentret, Pidgey, Rattata, Geodude, Phanpy, Zubat, Dunsparce, Bellsprout, Caterpie, Weedle, Poliwag, Teddiursa, Onix, Gastly, Unown, Growlithe, Hoothoot, Ledyba, Spinarak
>Y-Y-Y-YOU DIDN'T PROVE ANYTHING
Keep up that seething denial anon, it's delicious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:42:33 No.50216840 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
Stop letting this ugly faggot live in your head rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:42:39 No.50216843 Report

Quoted By: >>50216853

>>50216832
>low BST shitmon
Really can Johtoddles do anything other than go in circles with their already disproven arguments?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:43:15 No.50216844 Report

Quoted By: >>50216864

>>50216767
>friendship evos might as well be postgame too since they take so long.
Consider investing in Battle Items and use them early on (0-199) to sprinkle in Friendship Boosts. For Pokemon like Togepi and Eevee, you'll especially want to do this anyway to give them a fighting chance until they can hold their own.
Even if you aren't going to use that Pokemon in the battle, let them stay in your party as you challenge a Gym Leader, that'll net a Friendship Boon too.
The Haircut Brothers are another obvious benefit to consider but I don't think I need to say why.
Help yourself to exploring the world or making journeys to visit anyone who calls you for an item/rematch, the steps taken to get there will gradually add up Friendship points.
If you're playing Crystal, try and invest most of your level ups in the area you met the Pokemon so it'll get twice the Friendship from it and you'll be quick to reach the criteria.
Or, alternatively, if you're so fucking awful at raising Friendship quickly and effectively, wait until you can get Kurt to craft some Friend Balls and you skip a massive portion of the Friendship Gains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:45:08 No.50216853 Report

Quoted By: >>50216864

>>50216843
See >>50216742
>B-B-B-BUT TRADE EVOS!
Already debunked and is also a feature of every single Pokemon game in existence apart from PLA. Therefore either this doesn't count as valid criticism, or you just don't like any Pokemon game full stop. End of story. You lose, cry harder, seethe etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:45:45 No.50216859 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
Because they focus on only pre gym 1, and they don’t leave out details like rarity or obtainment method

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:46:16 No.50216864 Report

Quoted By: >>50216880 >>50216894 >>50216898 >>50224370

>>50216844
All of this to use cr*bat or faggeon/niggeon slightly before E4. Nigga no.
>>50216853
See >>50216767
Already debunked and trade evos were a scam from the beginning and other games have good distribution without trade evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:48:29 No.50216880 Report

Quoted By: >>50216891

>>50216864
>making absolutely any excuse you can to hate Johto in spite of factual evidence that the distribution is good
Kek, once again you lose, also
>>50216826
>if anything I'm mad I wasted hours of my life playing the shittiest Pokemon games created
The fact that you have THIS level of anger towards Gen II is actually scary anon, I think you might have some kind anger management issue that you need to go and get checked out for. It isn't healthy for you to hate a video game this much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:49:31 No.50216891 Report

Quoted By: >>50216925

>>50216880
So why are you so upset then? I have an excuse because I wasted hours of my life on j*hto but what about you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:49:48 No.50216894 Report

Quoted By: >>50216903

>>50216864
>"slightly before E4"
So you're definitely retarded, got it.
A shame you'll never know the joys of having a Crobat as early as Level 23 or getting Espeon at Level 16 so it can wreck shit with Confusion right out the gate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:50:15 No.50216898 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216864
>he couldn't get Crobat, Espeon or Umbreon before the 4th badge
Holy shit dude, you are REALLY bad at Pokemon. Imagine having the gall to say they're the easiest games but also not being able to work the friendship mechanic properly, LMFAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:50:43 No.50216903 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216894
I know how to use pkhex too, but I'm not going to be playing a shitty johto game ever again so I guess not :/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:52:39 No.50216925 Report

Quoted By: >>50216940

>>50216891
I'm not upset at all, I love Johto and Gen II. I'm just defending it from your angry hostility. Last time I checked it was you that was seething mad. Meanwhile I actually have fun playing Pokemon. Get that anger management thing checked out anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:53:01 No.50216929 Report

Quoted By: >>50216945 >>50217042

>>50216707
>Basing Gen 2 on Crystal
Now compare it to BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:54:19 No.50216940 Report

Quoted By: >>50216957

>>50216925
You're very upset, almost crying probably. I can tell from the tone of your posts. Johtoddles wet his diapie from playing the worst Pokemon games in existence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:54:48 No.50216945 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216929
Okay...
.......
.......Johto still has more lines of Pokemon available before the 1st badge. L M F A O.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:56:41 No.50216957 Report

Quoted By: >>50216969

>>50216940
We have written evidence of you absolutely shitting yourself over how much you hate Johto (even though you yourself admitted you can use pkhex, eliminating the trade evo excuse so that you can actually have fun using your own self-imposed barriers, but still wont because you have a hate boner for Johto, kek)

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO pepe (1).jpg, 92KiB, 1200x675

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:57:40 No.50216969 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216957

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO GenIIdistribution.png, 2MiB, 1428x1690

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 14:59:10 No.50216975 Report

Quoted By: >>50217000 >>50217059 >>50217105 >>50217152 >>50217219 >>50217956 >>50217963 >>50220417 >>50222651 >>50222733

>>50216722
>>50216767
;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:02:04 No.50217000 Report

Quoted By: >>50217015

>>50216975
All of those are low bst shitmon except tyranitar and therefore unusable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:03:41 No.50217015 Report

Quoted By: >>50217043

>>50217000
>how to lie as a Bort - pretend everything below 600bst is a 'shitmon'

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Pre-Gym 1 Crystal VS B2W2.png, 1MiB, 1268x2746

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:08:21 No.50217042 Report

Quoted By: >>50217077 >>50217086 >>50223102

>>50216929
Sure thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:08:26 No.50217043 Report

Quoted By: >>50217056

>>50217015
cry more toddle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:11:48 No.50217056 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217043
>gets BTFO
>c-c-c-cry more!....*whimper*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:12:18 No.50217059 Report

Quoted By: >>50217070

>>50216975
>counting version exclusives, Odd Egg babies, item evos and roaming legends as readily available
This is so disingenuous, it's not accurate to any single version of gen 2.
Also, that Stadium 2 cope. May as well bring up Dream Radar while we're at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:12:30 No.50217060 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
You're forgetting the Primo Egg which can give you Mareep, Wooper and Slugma before Falkner too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:12:48 No.50217062 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
>41 Replies
>9 Posters
Holy shit discord fags are pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:14:22 No.50217070 Report

Quoted By: >>50217685

>>50217059
>counting version exclusives
Yep, because every single Pokemon game has them. Next.
>Odd Egg babies
Yep, it's part of the game and you have the option to save before you get it.
>item evos
Yep, it's part of the game and available
>roaming legends as readily available
Yep, it's part of the game and available
>RRREEEEEEEEE I'M SHIT AT THE GAME, THEREFORE IT'S DISINGENUOUS
Seethe harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:15:35 No.50217077 Report

Quoted By: >>50217086 >>50217089 >>50217094 >>50217132

>>50217042
Missing Audino and Dunsparce
Play the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:15:54 No.50217078 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216767
>MAXING UP FRIENDSHIP IS MUH HARRD :'(((
Lmao never read something this pathetic before on this board and that says a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:17:04 No.50217086 Report

Quoted By: >>50217424

>>50217042
>>50217077
Also Lillipup

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:17:38 No.50217089 Report

Quoted By: >>50217097

>>50217077
Okay let's add them too, so that's
>22 lines in Gen II
vs
>12 lines in Gen V
Hmmmm........I wonder which game has better distribution.........HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:18:07 No.50217094 Report

Quoted By: >>50217102 >>50217114

>>50217077
>Audino isn't available pre-badge 1
>Dunsparce is post-game
Play the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:19:04 No.50217097 Report

Quoted By: >>50217105

>>50217089
>he doesn't know how to count

Also
>implyingbetter distribution pre 1st gym necessarily means better distribution throughout the full game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:20:10 No.50217102 Report

Quoted By: >>50217114

>>50217094
Doesn't Audino appear in shaking grass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:20:28 No.50217105 Report

Quoted By: >>50217134 >>50217138

>>50217097
>implyingbetter distribution pre 1st gym necessarily means better distribution throughout the full game
HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh wow, the cope is strong with this one
See >>50216975 for the overall list babe xoxoxox

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:22:27 No.50217114 Report

Quoted By: >>50217123 >>50217137

>>50217094
>>50217102
Just checked. You're wrong
You can catch Audino and Dunsparce
You forgot Venipede and Lillipup also

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:23:49 No.50217123 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217114
Okay so, we're now at 22 in Crystal and 14 in BW2? Hm...looks like Gen II still has the better distribution. hehe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:25:07 No.50217132 Report

Quoted By: >>50217159

>>50217077
Audino and Dunsparce don't appear until you get a Badge because Shaking Grass is coded to not appear until Post-Badge 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:25:20 No.50217134 Report

Quoted By: >>50217152

>>50217105
>Johtofag doesn't play past the first gym
Unsurprising, even they can't stand their own shit game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:26:07 No.50217137 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217114
Venipede's Post-Gym 1, you can't reach the Dark Grass until you beat Cheren so the faggot Hiker lets you through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:26:14 No.50217138 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217105
Ok, now where's the B2W2 one?
And why the fuck are you talking like that? LOL

Dude, I have no problem if B2W2 is to have a worse distribution than Johto.
And I know Johto doesn't have one of the best distribution among all other regions
And I'm fine with that. B2W2, Gen 2 and HGSS are still one of the best games anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:28:01 No.50217152 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217134
Bro if you want to talk about after the first Gym, holy shit man we have not only >>50216975 but also a whole bunch of Gen I mons as well. The real irony of pretending Gen II has the worst distribution is that it actually has one of the best distributions in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:29:40 No.50217159 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217132
Ok, just rechecked, you're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:34:02 No.50217195 Report

Quoted By:

My only guess as to why BW had a low distribution is because the first gym was about type matchups, specially Fire/Water/Grass, so you couldn't just cheese it with Pidove or Blitzle or something, but at the same time I feel that should be encouraged and you can completely miss the elemental monkey you need to get through it easier-ly by just not talking to the NPC at the end of the Dreamyard, I should know, because that's what I did. I was dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:35:46 No.50217215 Report

Quoted By:

Do we really need another spam thread when the earlier one is still active? No amount of coping will make the problems stop existing, but if you insist on trying you could at least keep it contained to one thread at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:36:30 No.50217219 Report

Quoted By: >>50217239

>>50216975
almost all of these are shit mons! what was this suppose to prove?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:38:43 No.50217239 Report

Quoted By: >>50217392

>>50217219
>anything below 600bst is a SHITMON because...THEY JUST ARE OKAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:52:05 No.50217338 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216767
No.
>friendship is late game
Sure, if you plow right through the game like it's some sort of "challenge".
>stone evos are late game
Has so little friends that he doesn't even register the numbers of trainers who give stones for free!
Go ahead and say that all mons are shitmons that didn't come muh baest gaym eva

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:59:08 No.50217376 Report

Quoted By: >>50217385

>>50216743
Raticate can carry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:00:14 No.50217385 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217376
Over half of that list can beat Crystal and its entirety solo.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO johto shit mons.png, 2MiB, 1428x1690

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:02:08 No.50217392 Report

Quoted By: >>50217393 >>50217405 >>50217414

>>50217239
>but muh Wikipedia says these have okay stats

actually play the game dumb ass!
almost all of most of these Pokémon suffer from bad typings, terrible move pools, version exclusive, or are weaker then the kanto mons you can get through out your play through also most of then are lazy and ugly! just look at them they're all circles!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:02:59 No.50217393 Report

Quoted By: >>50217420 >>50217436 >>50217485

>>50217392
>actually play the game dumb ass!
I've beaten the game with all of those Pokemon you've crossed out.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1245356247.jpg, 78KiB, 634x572

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:03:21 No.50217398 Report

Quoted By: >>50217485

>He needs his BSP Pokemon in order to beat the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:04:26 No.50217405 Report

Quoted By: >>50217436

>>50217392
>version exclusives are bad when Johto does it!!!!
Holy cope Batman
>shitmons
You just admitted that you are bad at the game lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:05:30 No.50217408 Report

Quoted By: >>50217522 >>50223181

>>50216711
Why do people compare Crystal with BW and not BW2? I’m pretty sure Johto still wins comparing GS/BW and C/BW2 but it’s still a bit disingenuous

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:05:32 No.50217409 Report

Quoted By:

Can you retards stop shitting up /v/ with genwars

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:06:29 No.50217414 Report

Quoted By: >>50217436

>>50217392
>Shuckle is a shitmon
Into the trash that whole template goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:07:12 No.50217420 Report

Quoted By: >>50217433 >>50217446 >>50217457 >>50217744

>>50217393
Yeah Johto is so easy you can beat it with lvl30 Ledian. That's why its a shit game. Now try the same with Sinnoh, you just cant. GOAT generation.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Pre-Gym 1 Crystal VS B2W2.png, 1MiB, 1268x2746

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:08:01 No.50217424 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217086
Thought I got that fucker already, but my memory's garbage and forgot it didn't show up until the ranch.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 33ED282F-8D26-43EF-8EA6-3DCAD294 (...).jpg, 301KiB, 1052x628

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:10:02 No.50217433 Report

Quoted By: >>50217437 >>50217468 >>50217689

>>50217420
Shitnoh will never be good. It's a frozen shithole with no biodiversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:10:46 No.50217436 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217393
>>50217405
>>50217414
weak arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:10:54 No.50217437 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217433
>kino kanto mons everywhere
holy soul, zoomers just dont get it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:12:12 No.50217446 Report

Quoted By: >>50217461

>>50217420
>Gen IV wont let me teach Ledian Thunderpunch or Ice Punch
Hardly a fair comparison. If I could use my Thunderpunch and Ice Punch Ledian in Sinnoh...
>Ledian used Ice Punch!
>Garchomp fainted 10 times
kek yeah great region bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:13:59 No.50217457 Report

Quoted By: >>50217474 >>50217482

>>50217420
>Yeah Johto is so easy you can beat it with lvl30 Ledian.
Let's see how you will far out with Jasmine alone in that case huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:14:28 No.50217461 Report

Quoted By: >>50217475

>>50217446
252 Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Ledian Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 255-302 (71.4 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Garchomp Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ledian: 356-420 (113.3 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Uh-uh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:15:21 No.50217468 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217433
>real pokémons instead of nugen shit
kinnoh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:16:26 No.50217474 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217457
>he has trouble with jasmine
haha lol i thought you were a good player who can beat the region with shitmons??!??!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:16:34 No.50217475 Report

Quoted By: >>50217509

>>50217461
Since when does Cynthia's Garchomp have Rock Slide? Lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:18:21 No.50217482 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217457
>what is Dynamic Punch
>what is Sweet Scent
Bro I'm telling you this for your own good - please leave and stop showing everyone how bad at Pokemon you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:18:35 No.50217485 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217393
>>50217398
omg you're so stupid you act like beating pokemon a game made for little babies with a a johto shit mon is somehow impressive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:19:08 No.50217490 Report

Quoted By:

Part of bad distribution is giving things that people don’t want to use. Johto and sinnoh have the worst pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:21:19 No.50217509 Report

Quoted By: >>50217543

>>50217475
Yeah my bad it gets stone edge LMAFAOOOO punk ass nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:23:21 No.50217522 Report

Quoted By: >>50217551 >>50217556 >>50223181

>>50217408
Because johtoddles are desperate to defend their shit region full of low BST shitmon (except tyranitar)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:27:29 No.50217543 Report

Quoted By: >>50217557 >>50217561

>>50217509
>suddenly changed from Gen IV to Gen V
Ahhh okay, moving the goalposts. Still...
>Ledian used Double Team
>Garchomp missed 8 times
>Ledian used Ice Punch
>Garchomp fainted
It's fun to know how much better at Pokemon I am than 90% of the retards on here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:28:38 No.50217551 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217522
>anything below 600bst is a SHITMON because...THEY JUST ARE OKAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:29:36 No.50217556 Report

Quoted By: >>50217586

>>50217522
>M-MUH SHITMONS!!! MUH BST!!!
I'm sure you also don't use Legendaries because dear Articuno is just TOO heckin' overpowered for the campaignerino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:29:40 No.50217557 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217543
>>50217543
lol it took you 9 turns just to beat one pokemon give it up kid you're nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:29:45 No.50217558 Report

Quoted By:

You just know the guy arguing against Gen 2 is featured on those YT videos from Showdown where they whip ass on those retards who use all legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:30:00 No.50217561 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217543
>Ultra Sun
>Battle tree
>Garchomp used Sandstorm!
>Ledian misses 9 times in a row!
>tenth Stone Edge hits
nothing personnel kiddo...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:33:11 No.50217585 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
didnt this guy have to cheat to win a nuzlocke

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:33:34 No.50217586 Report

Quoted By: >>50217615

>>50217556
I don't use low BST shitmon legendaries like Articuno no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:34:06 No.50217589 Report

Quoted By: >>50217601

The anti-Johto discord cabal is disgusting. This ugly gremlin is no exception. Can you post someone remotely human looking next time you insult Johto?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO meds.jpg, 104KiB, 1080x1068

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:35:35 No.50217601 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217589

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:37:46 No.50217615 Report

Quoted By: >>50217622 >>50217623

>>50217586
>580
>"low"
So you literally only use Psuedos, Box Legends, Mewtwo, Regigigas and Slaking?
And you also seethe on a daily basis that Eternamax Eternatus hasn't yet been released?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 2a0.jpg, 76KiB, 1080x1185

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:38:17 No.50217622 Report

Quoted By: >>50217651

>>50217615
Yes.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Thumb_v-video-games-»-thre (...).png, 72KiB, 300x673

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:38:31 No.50217623 Report

Quoted By: >>50217651

>>50217615
Yes. And yes.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Gastly.full.3598901.jpg, 472KiB, 2048x1448

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:40:11 No.50217629 Report

Quoted By: >>50217651 >>50218117 >>50218174

>>50216707
It's been a while since I watched his video saying Gen 2 is the worst, but I'm pretty sure he didn't directly compare it to Unova in the same video. At least, I don't remember that. The fact that you do is kind of weird.

But uh, Jan is a Nuzlocker. And half of those monsters you've outlined are quite rare in Crystal. It's unlikely that he'll encounter Gastly, Growlithe, Dunsparce, and so on. Unown is basically a joke. Sure you can spot one. But it's Unown. So, yeah.

With that said, I don't necessarily agree with Jan's take that Johto monsters are bad. I suspect that a lot of them were probably pretty good for the era in which they debuted and that they just got power crept into relative obscurity with changes to the system and the introduction of newer, sometimes similar but better-optimized Pokemon, rendering whatever niche they had obsolete. I've always felt like it was sort of irresponsible or unfair for him to go down the list of the dex and say
>Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap.
When he was probably speaking from a modern context. However, I will say that I'm open to being wrong and that maybe the idealist version of Gen 2 that I'm talking about doesn't exist, or that maybe my interpretation of Jan's perspective is flawed or incomplete somehow. I know that he's spent a lot of time with Crystal Kaizo, much more than I've spent with the base game, for sure. So I have no idea how that might have influenced his opinion. But I genuinely don't think that, when discussing why the Gen 2 dex is weak, he was thinking from a Gen 2 perspective. I think he was thinking from an HG/SS perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:42:55 No.50217651 Report

Quoted By: >>50217679 >>50217684

>>50217622
>>50217623
Bro? We already know what anti-Johtofags look like. Check the OP.
>>50217629
>Uh
>So, yeah
>"Monsters"
>Reddit Spacing
What an abysmal post. Just say
>This guy is an ugly faggot so he's wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:46:13 No.50217679 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217651
I like calling Pokemon monsters because it grounds my head in reality and reminds me to levy Pokemon against as many different contexts as possible so as to not be swept up by /vp/'s insular views, stagnant thoughts, and various headcanons. I'm not going to stop, and I won't become an advocate for a lower form of discorse. If that's how you enjoy /vp/, more power to you, but I enjoy using it this way.

So, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:46:46 No.50217684 Report

Quoted By: >>50217747

>>50217651
Why do you let him live rent free in your head?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:46:46 No.50217685 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217070
The roaming legends is a massive cope, you e had several opportunities to get a pokemon with mean look by the time you meet them and theres only 1 route inaccessible to you by then so your chances of running into them is pretty damn high

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:47:13 No.50217689 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217433
I don't like sinnoh, but this is a pretty poor image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:47:54 No.50217694 Report

Quoted By:

Who cares about pre-1st badge? That's the tutorial section, just beat the gym in like 20 minutes lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:49:25 No.50217709 Report

Quoted By: >>50217717

>>50216707
Sun/Moon beats both, boomer chuds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:50:07 No.50217717 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217709
Based lilliechad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:51:37 No.50217734 Report

Quoted By: >>50217746

I used to think Gen II was the most overrated but now thanks to the anti-johto cabal I like it more and more. So good job you discord faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:52:49 No.50217744 Report

Quoted By: >>50217785

>>50217420
>Johto is shit because Gen 2 Pokemon are useless
>Johto is shit because Gen 2 Pokemon are useful against trainers
You can't make this shit up, you can't even make a strawman of Johto-haters anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:52:57 No.50217746 Report

Quoted By: >>50217789

>>50217734
>good job you discorders
Is this supposed "cabal" the same discord that we know defends johto or is there meant to be another one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:53:06 No.50217747 Report

Quoted By: >>50217765

>>50217684
You guys are the ones making threads with its face plastered on them. Stop subjecting us to this creature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:54:42 No.50217755 Report

Quoted By:

None of you play the games. You guys don't know mechanics that are revealed after the first gym, you don't know which pokemon are available, and you get your opinions from youtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:55:36 No.50217765 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217747
SpeK for yourself toddle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:57:46 No.50217785 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217744
>you can't even make a strawman
Well I would imagine it's diificult to intentionally misrepresent a group that only exists in your head. Once you decide that a 2 year old video is responsible for decades of discussion of a game's flaws there isn't really a way to make it look worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:57:59 No.50217787 Report

Quoted By: >>50221333

>>50216707
distribution is a meme anyway. It’s certainly nice to have good distribution, but considering that gen 8 has the most diverse distribution in the entire franchise yet also happens to be the worst game, it hardly means anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 16:58:11 No.50217789 Report

Quoted By: >>50217931

>>50217746
It's all fucking misdirection, don't you get that? they will make pro gen V posts just to chum the waters for other discord faggots to come in be retards. It doesn't matter what they believe, what matters is the dumbass jannies aren't doing their job and letting them ruin the board.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Crystal.(Pokémon.SPECIAL) (...).jpg, 53KiB, 600x600

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:14:07 No.50217931 Report

Quoted By: >>50217956 >>50217964

>>50217789
This. Most of the people in these threads, or at the very least, the people who start these threads, do not actually believe what they are posting. They just want to drive the overall quality of the board further into the ground. It sounds pointless, but some people don't have anything better going on in their lives. The best you can hope for is that most of them are underage and that this is the reason why they have so much free time on their hands.

With that being said, the idea that Johto's Pokemon distribution is bad is one that has traction even within Johto's own fanbase, but it mostly just comes down to not being able to get newer Pokemon quicker. And if that's your criteria for what makes distribution bad, then it probably is bad, and by comparison, Unova blows it out of the water. But I think that the argument is inherently circular without a qualifier of GOOD Pokemon distribution, which is pretty easy to establish right at the start of the conversation. OP is asserting that the sheer variety of Pokemon you can collect before beating Falkner is superior to the variety of Pokemon you can get before beating the triplets in Black and White. Which does establish a premise, albeit a dumb one.

Black and White are better compared to RBY and Black and White 2 are better compared to GSC, as both games were trying to emulate Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively in various design choices, the biggest flag being the inclusion of the little 2 on the end of their names, as an allusion to a time when GS were simply "Pokemon 2". Moreover, this >>50216711 little study doesn't incorporate factors such as Pokemon variety over time, and neither does OP's post. So we can't see how Johto distribution holds up to Unova distribution after Gym 1, which makes the aforementioned picture basically worthless, and OP's argument disingenuous. But like I said, most of the people who start these threads, do not actually believe what they are posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:16:48 No.50217956 Report

Quoted By: >>50218024

>>50217931
we can't see how Johto distribution holds up to Unova distribution after Gym 1
See >>50216975 and also bare in mind that even this chart is Johto mons only, it doesn't even take into account the hoards of Kanto mons plastered around Johto. Gen II has objectively great distribution. It's not even up for debate, it's just the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:16:50 No.50217957 Report

Quoted By: >>50217963 >>50218306

>>50216707
>gen 2
>most of the mons you see are gen 1
>gen 5
>all the mons you see are gen 5 until endgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:18:21 No.50217963 Report

Quoted By: >>50218050

>>50217957
>most of the mons you see are gen 1
Not true, >>50216975 disproves this BS narrative

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:18:26 No.50217964 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217931
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:26:40 No.50218024 Report

Quoted By: >>50218065

>>50217956
>Asserts that you should have another system to access various Pokemon.
>Asserts that Entei, Suicune, and Raikou are "readily available" as well as the various baby Pokemon that you have to breed in order to get.
If any of these Pokemon are readily available, then it means Game Freak failed to do what they set out to do when they implemented them in the first place. Congratulations, you just spotted a brand new design flaw in GSC that nobody had been paying attention to before. You must really hate that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:27:07 No.50218031 Report

Quoted By: >>50218447

>>50216707
>>50216719
>>others (you)
replying to your own thread
Get Help

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:29:24 No.50218050 Report

Quoted By: >>50218070

>>50217963
It doesn't.

More often than not, you won't see Sunkern and Yanma, you'll be seeing Beedrill, Drowzee, etc. You actually do have to go somewhat out of your way to spot most of the new Pokemon. Which makes that picture wrong because the word readily implies that you shouldn't have to go out of your way at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:31:00 No.50218065 Report

Quoted By: >>50218127

>>50218024
>Game Freak failed to do what they set out to do when they implemented them in the first place
>GF intended for them to be rare
>it's a problem if they are not considered rare
>but it's also a problem that I have to trade to get them (I.E. it is now a problem that they are rare)
Look bro, I know you're desperate to try and prove that Johto is bad and you have failed miserably to convince anyone in this thread of this, but you need to make up your damn mind.

Or, better yet, accept that you can't criticise Gen II for something without also acknowledging that every other Gen also has problems, and that is therefore irrational for you to specifically hate Gen II for reasons that you could hate any Gen for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:32:01 No.50218070 Report

Quoted By: >>50218137

>>50218050
>You actually do have to go somewhat out of your way to spot most of the new Pokemon
Heaven forbid you actually have to play the game!!! What horror!!!

They are available in the game. End of story, seethe harder, cope etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:37:34 No.50218117 Report

Quoted By: >>50218160

>>50217629
>But uh, Jan is a Nuzlocker. And half of those monsters you've outlined are quite rare in Crystal
It's not the games fault that he decided to play in a completely retarded way that was established years after its release

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:38:50 No.50218127 Report

Quoted By: >>50218205

>>50218065
Game Freak intended for Entei, Suicune, and Raikou to be so difficult to capture that they run away from you at the start of every battle, prompting the player to employ unusual tactics to prevent the opponent from fleeing just so they could have a chance at getting them.

If either of these three Pokemon become "readily" available, then Game Freak failed to do what they intended.

>>it's a problem if they are not considered rare
>>but it's also a problem that I have to trade to get them (I.E. it is now a problem that they are rare)
My issue is with the assertion that any of these Pokemon are readily available, when they aren't. The problem isn't that they're rare, that's what they were intended to be, and that's how they are. Problems emerge when Entei, Suicune, and Raikou become "readily" available (they aren't), because they were not intended to be "readily" available. I'm simply pointing out the various flaws in your assertions from different perspectives because that's how weak your assertions are. Using your picture, no matter which way you flip it, GSC still loses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:39:42 No.50218137 Report

Quoted By: >>50218183

>>50218070
Sure they're available.

But they're not "readily" available. You do have to wait for some of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:42:30 No.50218160 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218117
>It is not the game's fault that he decided to play in a completely retarded way that was established years after its release
It's not. But the fact that this is the playstyle for which he is best known should be taken into account when discussing his opinions on Pokemon games because this colors his opinion on Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:43:39 No.50218172 Report

Quoted By:

>noo you have to play with ledian and sunflora noo
this is why im the pokemon master and you are stuck in the past lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:44:03 No.50218174 Report

Quoted By: >>50218232

>>50217629
>With that said, I don't necessarily agree with Jan's take that Johto monsters are bad. I suspect that a lot of them were probably pretty good for the era in which they debuted and that they just got power crept into relative obscurity with changes to the system and the introduction of newer, sometimes similar but better-optimized Pokemon, rendering whatever niche they had obsolete.
Bingo, that is exactly what happened. Jan's just either too stupid to realize that, or intentionally ignoring it to pad out his video.
>But I genuinely don't think that, when discussing why the Gen 2 dex is weak, he was thinking from a Gen 2 perspective. I think he was thinking from an HG/SS perspective.
That makes his entire video pointless. His video is "why Gen 2 is the worst" not why HGSS/Johto are the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:45:47 No.50218183 Report

Quoted By: >>50218232

>>50218137
That's not what readily available mean in the context of that image though. The Pokemon are readily available in the game. How rare they are is a different story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:48:12 No.50218205 Report

Quoted By: >>50218218 >>50218232

>>50218127
They are readily available. They are in the game and you can catch them, which makes them readily available. There are a multitude of ways to make catching them easier and the tools are there at your disposal. Your inability to capture them and just make excuse after excuse speaks only to your own inadequacy. The fact that GSC has filtered you and your ilk only strengthens Johto's position as one of the best games. GSC wins no matter which way you flip it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:50:46 No.50218218 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218205
>Crystal sells less than PLA
oh no no no no

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Pokémon.Gold...Silver.ful (...).jpg, 1MiB, 1200x800

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:54:06 No.50218232 Report

Quoted By: >>50218310

>>50218174
>Jan's just either too stupid to realize that, or intentionally ignoring it to pad out his video.
A lot of Jan's content is off-the-cuff stuff taken from his Twitch streams. I just went to check that video and the Twitch chat shows up within the first few seconds, so it is probably an edited segment from one of his streams. He didn't sit down and slowly, deliberately, methodically, decide to dissect Gen 2, it just happened as a result of a conversation in his stream. He did upload it though and the hyperbolic title was probably a method of farming clicks, and it seems to have worked out quite well.

So we can't say he's stupid, whether he realized that or not. Jan seems to be pretty smart.

>>50218183
>>50218205
>They're in the game and you can catch them. Nevermind the different ways one must go about obtaining them, simply being able to obtain them is enough.
That's an awfully convenient criteria for what makes a Pokemon readily available. I'll stick to the Merriam Webster B definition of the word, which means "without much difficulty" or "EASILY", since I'm not a troll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:55:12 No.50218242 Report

Quoted By:

yup dream world in bw counts as being in the game yup gen5 kings win again!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:55:26 No.50218243 Report

Quoted By: >>50218252 >>50218258

>>50216722
Agreed, there is no incentive to ever catch Patrat, Purrloin or any of the monkeys when they are outclassed one gym later. I guess there's only one good pokemon to catch before the first gym, how awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:56:58 No.50218252 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218243
>he catches route 1 mons
I seriously hope nobody ACTUALLY does this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 17:57:36 No.50218258 Report

Quoted By: >>50218322

>>50218243
lol finally someone figured out I was talking about both games even if it's still a butthurt johtranny saying it ironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:03:06 No.50218306 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217957
So? Shitnova has tons of ugly Pokemon. I'd rather see Gen I Pokemon than Gen V Pokemon. Johto is part of the same world as Kanto, so it's going to share animals anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:03:36 No.50218310 Report

Quoted By: >>50218496

>>50218232
>Jan seems to be pretty smart
Ah okay, you're a Jan mark. Now I see why you're so eager to argue.

Not only is he a retard, but he actually outright lied in his Johto video. He's not to be trusted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:05:18 No.50218322 Report

Quoted By: >>50218354

>>50218258
>jokes on them, I was talking about both games the whole time!!!
>translation: I was only pretending to be retarded!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:10:29 No.50218354 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218322
yeah anon he totally ment lilpup is 600bst pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:13:29 No.50218378 Report

Quoted By: >>50218383 >>50218392 >>50218447 >>50221333

>everyone itt conveniently ignoring that the region with the objectively best distribution is literally Galar
lol, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:14:25 No.50218383 Report

Quoted By: >>50218409 >>50218447

>>50218378
That's why Galar and Kalos are my favorites. So many choices and the best replayability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:16:21 No.50218392 Report

Quoted By: >>50218412 >>50218447

>>50218378
Galar is a better region than johto because it's plot is almost as bad but it looks better and has better distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:18:33 No.50218409 Report

Quoted By: >>50218447

>>50218383
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:18:50 No.50218412 Report

Quoted By: >>50218447

>>50218392
No story means just you can spend more precious time with your pokemons in camp and other activities while in gen 2 you just uhhh.. you just ..with your ledian and ... and uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:22:44 No.50218447 Report

Quoted By: >>50218451 >>50218457

>>50218378
>>50218383
>>50218392
>>50218409
>>50218412

>>50218031

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:23:13 No.50218451 Report

Quoted By: >>50218470

>>50218447
only 2 were me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:23:50 No.50218457 Report

Quoted By: >>50218470

>>50218447
meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:25:13 No.50218470 Report

Quoted By: >>50218477 >>50218489

>>50218451
>>50218457
How is your discord server going?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:26:03 No.50218477 Report

Quoted By: >>50218507

>>50218470
Not an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:27:28 No.50218489 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218470
Which one? The one that likes Johto?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Pokémon.Gold...Silver.600 (...).jpg, 71KiB, 450x600

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:28:17 No.50218496 Report

Quoted By: >>50218552

>>50218310
>>50218310
>You're a Jan mark.
I'm not, and here's how I can prove it.
>With that said, I don't necessarily agree with Jan's take that Johto monsters are bad. I suspect that a lot of them were probably pretty good for the era in which they debuted and that they just got power crept into relative obscurity with changes to the system and the introduction of newer, sometimes similar but better-optimized Pokemon, rendering whatever niche they had obsolete. I've always felt like it was sort of irresponsible or unfair for him to go down the list of the dex and say
>>Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap.
>When he was probably speaking from a modern context.

>Not only is he a retard
We're still discussing his video a year and a half later, and it's got almost a million views. In what world is Jan not smart? Even right now, we're basically giving him free promotion.

>but he actually outright lied in his Johto video.
But anon, you outright lie in your Johto threads and pictures. How could you be mad at Jan for lying in his video? Is it because he lied about something that you like? I think the appropriate response to that would be to tell the truth in your defense of this thing that you like, instead of propping up a bunch of fallacious arguments and disingenuous images in place of an actual counterpoint.

>He's not to be trusted.
Well, okay. So he's not to be trusted. Sure. But then again, neither are you. I mean, at least we know that Jan just wanted to make some extra money from his Twitch stream. But you actually want to deceive people for free. Your agenda is much more malevolent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:30:15 No.50218507 Report

Quoted By: >>50218521

>>50218477
Discord trannies aren't worthy of arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:31:47 No.50218521 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218507
When you pass puberty maybe you will realize not everyone you dont agree with is a tranny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:36:02 No.50218552 Report

Quoted By: >>50218562 >>50218576

>>50218496
>you outright lie in your Johto threads and pictures
This is the only part of your post I saw, not reading the rest. Not a single lie has been told in this thread - all we have done is shown that the distribution is good in Gen II straight out of the gate, and the infographics in this thread are solid proof of that and the evidence is factual. No amount of crying that they're 'disingenuous' will win you this argument, because they're literal fact. The Pokemon are available in the game and that's it, there is not further discussion to be had. End of story. If you're going to keep living in your delusion that Johto is bad despite the concrete evidence posted in this thread, I have nothing further to say to you because all you're doing at this stage is sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. The facts presented in this thread don't care about your feelings. That's all there is to it. Bye :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:38:04 No.50218562 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218552
>:)
uh oh someone is mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:39:54 No.50218576 Report

Quoted By: >>50218595

>>50218552
Beautiful meltdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:41:33 No.50218595 Report

Quoted By: >>50218602

>>50218576
>"the infographics posted here are fact"
>M-M-M-MELTDOWN!
Seethe harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:42:08 No.50218602 Report

Quoted By:

>>50218595
I thought you said bye. Typical schizo meltdown lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:49:15 No.50218655 Report

Quoted By:

>168 replies
>39 posters
Do ANY of you faggots have any lives at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:51:34 No.50218670 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
I truly do hate GenV with all my heart. It's is garbage whos popularity is fueled by unovabortions and post-purchase rationalization.

However, GenII honestly did have AWFUL distribution considering it was a smaller gen overall.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO IJFI1da_d(1).png, 28KiB, 333x246

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 19:44:58 No.50219062 Report

Quoted By: >>50219293 >>50219924 >>50221899

>Muh johto distribution bad!
Actually its not. That has been proven. Johtos regional dex includes 251 pokemon. The biggest until bw2.
There are 100 johto mons and 151 kanto so yea kanto mons might be more noticable. Not a problem.
>But muh shitmon! Muh BST!
The average BST of johto mons is almost identical to kanto and hoenn. This is just false.
>but muh houndour! Muh larvitar! Muh misdreavus!!
Theyre past the halfway point of the game to give player new things to discover after beating lance. Remember that johto mons were newly discovered. They didnt want to blow their wad on the first half of the game.

People just parrot arguments that are false or they dont understand to fit in. If you dont like johto fine. Dont use bullshit to try to seem objectively right because you aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 20:21:47 No.50219293 Report

Quoted By:

>>50219062
>Theyre past the halfway point of the game to give player new things to discover
Every game has this (except bad gens like 1 and 2) while also having good mons show up early.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1582491527191.png, 393KiB, 588x547

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 20:46:49 No.50219502 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
I give it about a year and a half before he's caught being a sex pest to women or children, screencap this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 21:31:28 No.50219839 Report

Quoted By:

The distribution isn’t the problem (although the johto mons exept maybe Ttar should’ve been available in the main story). Although I do agree with his point about gym teams having barely any new mons, and bad mons like 2 magnemites for gym 7. Another thing that I disagree with him is the low level curve makes less things evolve, so you deal with lesser power and with level caps, have to deal with more exp managing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 21:41:58 No.50219924 Report

Quoted By:

>>50219062
>this has been proven
So am of biased comparisons isn't proof
>they're past the halfway point of the game
They're in the post-game. Not available at all in the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 21:45:40 No.50219947 Report

Quoted By: >>50220149

>>50216707
Why do we discuss this faggot again?
He sucks ass and probably has some skeletons in the closet, we already know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:11:09 No.50220149 Report

Quoted By: >>50220164 >>50220185

>>50219947
He made a video about Johto that wasn't blind praise so obviously we have to have multiple threads every day talking about how he is responsible for all johto hate including everything that happened before he made the video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:13:40 No.50220164 Report

Quoted By: >>50223203

>>50220149
You think if I start a poketuber channel and make a video shitingt on johto I'll get free PR constantly like he does?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:16:44 No.50220185 Report

Quoted By: >>50220357

>>50220149
I mean, the entire video boils down to him not liking Johto Pokemon, his dogshit ruleset not working with Gen 2 mechanics, him missing the point of Gen 2 and multiple blatant lies... again, why we discuss this faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:37:32 No.50220357 Report

Quoted By:

>>50220185
>again, why do we discuss him?
Because the johto fans need a boogeyman to cope with people not liking their games. That's it. They're the only ones who talk about him or his video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:44:27 No.50220405 Report

Quoted By: >>50220417

>>50216707
Now let’s see the rest of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:46:29 No.50220417 Report

Quoted By:

>>50220405
>>50216975

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:51:04 No.50220440 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216711
7 areas vs. 3. Okay retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 22:59:23 No.50220495 Report

Quoted By: >>50220572

>>50216707
>Gen II pre-1st badge
Not only are most of the "gen 2 pre-1st badge" mons bad (quality matters, too), but some are just wrong. Phanpy and Teddiursa can't be obtained until much later on, and Growlithe might be available early on in Crystal, but certainly not in Gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 23:02:11 No.50220517 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216767
Friendship Evos don't take that long and only the Eeveelutions and Crobat are worth using in-game.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 94040FA1-F4C0-4233-9BDA-1244D44B (...).jpg, 9KiB, 235x227

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 23:04:40 No.50220530 Report

Quoted By:

I don’t care who likes or dislikes gen 2. I just want to say I can’t stand this yos faced, pathetic facial haired, narcissistic loser. That’s is all.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO teddiursaandphanpy.png, 428KiB, 722x1306

Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 23:12:15 No.50220572 Report

Quoted By: >>50223213

>>50220495
>Phanpy and Teddiursa can't be obtained until much later on
Will you assholes please stop spreading lies? If you haven't played the games, stop spreading misinformation. Faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 01:23:30 No.50221333 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217787
>>50218378
only based takes ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 02:09:55 No.50221677 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216781
I love sinnoh and johto so don’t lump johtohaters in with us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 02:13:47 No.50221705 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
that is a face that needs to be punched which i will do if i ever see this faggot in public

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 02:21:31 No.50221758 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
>>Gen V has the best distribution in the series!
nobody says this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 02:49:44 No.50221899 Report

Quoted By: >>50222615

>>50216707
The only problem with Gen 2 Pokemon distribution is the fact that a bunch of the coolest new Pokemon are only available after you beat the E4. Making the new Pokemon hard to find was a neat idea, but you shouldn't have to wait until what's basically the post-game to use most Dark and Steel types.

When it comes to giving the player a bunch of distinct lines of Pokemon, though, Gen 2 is up there with the best of them. I especially like the way that it'll reward exploration with additional Pokemon, like with Natu and Smeargle in the Ruins of Alph.

>>50219062
Kanto isn't really the "second half." You aren't likely to spend more than 25% of your time there, because it's closer to a boss rush than anything. I can understand keeping some of the new Pokemon locked behind the E4, but GameFreak went overboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 03:03:21 No.50221990 Report

Quoted By:

Gen II is good because it's fun. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:13:59 No.50222604 Report

Quoted By: >>50222614

This board needs to stop sucking Gen II's cock, like holy fucking shit motherfucker, get a life and stop seething over one fag on yt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:16:56 No.50222614 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222604
fuck off jan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:17:16 No.50222615 Report

Quoted By: >>50223224

>>50221899
>a bunch of the coolest new Pokemon are only available after you beat the E4
i.e. houndour, larvitar, and literally nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:18:03 No.50222618 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
>genwar fags are eceleb worshippers
No surprises here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:18:04 No.50222619 Report

Quoted By:

Yawnfag need to die

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:28:30 No.50222651 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216785
>>50216975
Legit question, how can you trade with yourself in Stadium 2? I thought you still need two games, controllers, and transfer packs for those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:49:45 No.50222733 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216975
>Having to buy a second more expensive game on a different console to get things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 05:57:42 No.50222754 Report

Quoted By: >>50222764 >>50224368

>>50216711
I've never once seen Growithe, teddyursa, hoppip or phanphy on those paths. And poliwag is a fishing mon you don't have any rods yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 06:01:01 No.50222764 Report

Quoted By: >>50222784 >>50222843

>>50222754
Not that guy but

Crystal for Teddyursa and Phanphy
Hoppip I'm assuming it's south of Violet city in that patch of grass before that one dude roadblocks you (otherwise I don't know where it could be)
No idea about Growithe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 06:05:09 No.50222776 Report

Quoted By: >>50222860 >>50224301

>>50216707
>>50216711
>arbitrary goalpost
>disingenuously pretending sub-10% encounter rate, time exclusive, version exclusive, etc pokemon, are normal encounters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 06:06:57 No.50222784 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222764
yeah thats where hoppip is, same place you get mareep. its a 10%. fucked me on a nuzlocke once

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 06:21:02 No.50222843 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222764
Oh right?
To be fair I don't remember much of Crystal.
Most my memories from the gen come from the remakes. Never understood why they had the lesser number on the remakes then. That sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 06:25:48 No.50222860 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222776
10% is reasonable
only takes 10 tries in average

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 07:58:58 No.50223067 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
Why don't you ask him yourself you e-celeb loving pussy faggot

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Encounters Before First Gym .png, 376KiB, 1080x2610

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:19:44 No.50223102 Report

Quoted By: >>50223181 >>50224291

>>50216707
>>50216711
>>50217042
Here's every game as compared under that criterion

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 135.png, 124KiB, 680x680

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:45:23 No.50223181 Report

Quoted By:

>>50217408
>>50217522
check >>50223102
BW and BW2 have objectively less mons than other gens, only really being comparable to Kanto games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:46:18 No.50223185 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
God I hate FtMs so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:52:00 No.50223203 Report

Quoted By:

>>50220164
>>50220164
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:54:17 No.50223213 Report

Quoted By: >>50223333 >>50223610

>>50220572
a 5 percent chance for a few hours might as well be nonexistent. you're technically correct, but not practically right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 08:56:13 No.50223224 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222615
misdreaveus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 09:43:33 No.50223319 Report

Quoted By: >>50223339

If you're still playing the vanilla games in this day and age I don't even know what to say to you babies that will make you stop crying about which game is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 09:50:10 No.50223333 Report

Quoted By:

>>50223213
As if people don't make an effort to catch the mon they want.
It doesn't matter that's a 5% chance, tons of mons have low chances and people still try to get them for their party

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Gengar.png, 253KiB, 540x590

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 09:52:59 No.50223339 Report

Quoted By: >>50223601

>>50223319
>playing shitty romhacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 11:30:36 No.50223601 Report

Quoted By:

>>50223339
Virtually every issue discussed in this thread is fixed by a "shitty romhack"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 11:34:22 No.50223610 Report

Quoted By: >>50223614 >>50224473

>>50223213
Ursaring is one of my favourite Pokemon and whenever I start a game of Crystal, I always grind in Dark Cave until I have found and caught Teddiursa.

We're on a board where people autistically spend weeks grinding for 1 shiny Pokemon. To say that Teddiursa and Pahnpy "might as well be non-existent" is a falsehood and the biggest cope in the thread so far. kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 11:35:08 No.50223614 Report

Quoted By: >>50223634

>>50223610
How would you even know it exists if it's so rare?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 11:39:36 No.50223634 Report

Quoted By: >>50223689 >>50223752

>>50223614
Again, massive cope. You can't pretend that it's not there just because it doesn't have a 40% encounter rate like Zubat. Every single Pokemon game has low encounter rate Pokemon, not just GSC. Just take the L dude lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 11:53:58 No.50223689 Report

Quoted By:

>>50223634
>Just take the L dude lmao
holy reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 12:16:31 No.50223752 Report

Quoted By:

>>50223634
That was my first reply in the chain, it was just a mere postulation. Chill, little boy, nobody cares if you "W" or "L" arguments about pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 12:24:25 No.50223787 Report

Quoted By: >>50223951

BW has better pacing with its new encounters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 12:58:31 No.50223951 Report

Quoted By:

>>50223787
BW has better everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 13:48:12 No.50224207 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
He sucks cock thus his opinion is invalid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:06:08 No.50224291 Report

Quoted By: >>50224301

>>50223102
Shitnovabros … our narrative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:07:46 No.50224301 Report

Quoted By:

>>50224291
See >>50222776

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:08:48 No.50224306 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
>Poketubers
Ignore their existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:25:26 No.50224368 Report

Quoted By:

>>50222754
You can find Poliwag in the grass north of Cherrygrove at night and Growlithe is west of Violet City

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:26:45 No.50224370 Report

Quoted By: >>50224789

>>50216864
>trade evolutions are le scam because….BECAUSE THEY JUST ARE, OKAY?!
Don’t blame the game for you not having any friends, chud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:46:43 No.50224473 Report

Quoted By: >>50224490

>>50223610
It's not a "cope" because nothing ITT makes me seethe or otherwise puts me in a state of mental distress. Also, I think it's just as false to say
>People will put effort into getting mons they want
In this context because Dark Cave isn't the only way to get Teddiursa or Phanphy. They do show up later, with higher rates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:48:17 No.50224490 Report

Quoted By: >>50224524

>>50224473
>They do show up later, with higher rates
That's very true, further proving that GSC have great distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:53:42 No.50224524 Report

Quoted By:

>>50224490
Not really but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:55:05 No.50224535 Report

Quoted By: >>50224542

Reminder that Crystal didn't have mareep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 14:56:17 No.50224542 Report

Quoted By:

>>50224535
Sure but it did have all stone evos before the 4th badge including early Growlithe so who cares really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 15:38:59 No.50224751 Report

Quoted By:

>>50216707
They're just mad there's no water types pre 1st gym. Something most ROM hacks fix by putting the old rod in cherrygrove city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 15:41:54 No.50224764 Report

Quoted By: >>50225636

>>50216707
>Gen II pre-1st badge
>is actually just Crystal
Do Gold and Silver and you'll see why people bitch about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 15:46:51 No.50224789 Report

Quoted By:

>>50224370
>johtranny is also a bootlicker
Fitting

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Distribution.png, 556KiB, 740x1794

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 17:45:34 No.50225636 Report

Quoted By:

>>50224764
??? still looks better than Kanto, Hoenn and Unova to me?

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches