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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:10:38 No.50226617 View View Reply Original Report

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how do we fix grass types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:11:32 No.50226624 Report

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>>50226617
Make them weak to Fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:12:06 No.50226627 Report

Quoted By: >>50227430

Grass Charizard regional form

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:12:41 No.50226633 Report

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>>50226617
I was told yesterday that grass was perfectly balanced and didn't need to be fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:16:50 No.50226656 Report

Quoted By: >>50226665 >>50226685 >>50226950 >>50226962 >>50230352 >>50230847

>>50226617
>hey timmy
>hey
>do you want a FIRE BREATHING DRAGON
>or a ARMOURED TURTLE WITH STEEL CANNONS
>or.......a house plant?

grass isnt cool

grass will never, ever be cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:18:20 No.50226665 Report

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>>50226656
Shiftry is cool

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:21:57 No.50226685 Report

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>>50226656
>grass will never, ever be cool
Repent

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:22:08 No.50226686 Report

Quoted By: >>50230345

Good in game and in doubles where ground and water types go crazy. You also forget that grass is an early game type. Chesnaught was uu in sm too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:29:07 No.50226711 Report

Quoted By: >>50227448

>>50226617
Well it resists electric, ground, and water which is good, but its many weaknesses and all those types resisting it is very bad. I think making it resist rock would help a lot, as rock is a strong offensive type. One type resisting both rock and ground (which currently doesn't exist) would be very useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:31:51 No.50226725 Report

Quoted By: >>50226785

>>50226617
Make them cool and/or appealing? The treeko, and maybe the snivy and rowlet lines so far have been the only decent ones. Sprigatito might end up being another. That's three to four out of nine, vs fire which is like six or seven out of nine.
The "Must be an extinct or primitive species" rule fucked grass starters while it lasted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 20:41:27 No.50226785 Report

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>>50226725
>The "Must be an extinct or primitive species" rule fucked grass starters while it lasted.
Not a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:05:49 No.50226922 Report

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>>50226617
>fire
It's the normie, edgy, furry, autistic, zoomer pick
Those children don't care about competitive or stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:11:22 No.50226950 Report

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>>50226656
You wouldn't want to get hit with a Trop Kick or Power Whip from a Tsareena. You also wouldn't want to get vaporized by a Sceptile's Solar Beam. Grass is cool and has the potential to be very destructive. It just isn't as obvious.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:13:15 No.50226962 Report

Quoted By: >>50231136

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:17:08 No.50226994 Report

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Because the early routes have

normal
normal/flying
bug/poison
bug/grass

ez exp for fire starter

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:23:34 No.50227053 Report

Quoted By: >>50230328

grass:

2x against:
rock, ground, water

0.5x against
grass, fire, steel, dragon

2x from:
fire, ice

0.5x from:
grass, fighting, psychic, rock, ground, water, electric

there, fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 21:40:52 No.50227142 Report

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>>50226617
>He changed his answer to fit in
OH NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:01:42 No.50227271 Report

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>>50226617
Grass is good in Gen 1, and sorta Gen 3, although it's outclassed by Mudkip. In Gen 3 there's basically no significant Grass-type enemy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:08:20 No.50227323 Report

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>>50226617
Moreso that there are usually only a handful of fire types vs grass and water types which aren't that hard to find. More grass types should learn earth power for a buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:21:15 No.50227418 Report

Quoted By: >>50227554

>>50226617
Fire = easy
Water = normal
Green = hard
It's no wonder normies are attracted to fire type Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:22:28 No.50227430 Report

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>>50226627
Instead of firebreath, solarbeam?
What of the other missing firebreathing moves? What good stuff can they be replaced with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:25:22 No.50227448 Report

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>>50226711
>making it resist rock would help a lot, as rock is a strong offensive type.
Grass tends to have good defense so they're already technically resistant to offensive types

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:38:52 No.50227554 Report

Quoted By: >>50227719

>>50227418
>Fire = easy
Gen 1 literally gave you a hard time at the beginning for choosing fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 22:59:24 No.50227719 Report

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>>50227554
Gen 1 hadn't established the meta yet

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:13:44 No.50227855 Report

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>>50226617
Literally just make it red. The human eye is naturally drawn to the color red, thus Fire-types have had an advantage every gerenation over the other two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 04:01:26 No.50229777 Report

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>>50226617
Make 99% of grass types able to learn rock moves, like how 99% of water types can learn ice moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 04:04:41 No.50229802 Report

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>>50226617
Give grass types the move Powder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:27:52 No.50230299 Report

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>>50226617
Grass has higher usage percent than fire type in competitive.
Fire kiddies don't understand how to build a team too so this is worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:44:47 No.50230328 Report

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>>50227053
Retarded

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:49:59 No.50230342 Report

Quoted By: >>50231254

>>50226617
Fire sisters... we are always dishonest, lying, and stupid furries??
we can't we understand how pokemon works instead of shitposting?
are we really this cowards to spread fake lies about grass being bad even though it's more useful than our deviantart OC fursonas?!??!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:50:19 No.50230345 Report

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>>50226686
Kiawe looks funny in green

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:53:11 No.50230352 Report

Quoted By: >>50230387

>>50226656
>hhahah house plant XD
i too see a lot of 9gag memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 06:57:22 No.50230372 Report

Quoted By: >>50230385

>>50226617
There's nothing to fix gameplaywise and appealwise it can't be fixed. Grass just isn't cool compared to water and fire.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 07:00:33 No.50230385 Report

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>>50230372
>Grass just isn't cool compared to water and fire.
Japanese people disagree.
Only edgelords western people who think fire is badass because it kills people think otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 07:01:46 No.50230387 Report

Quoted By: >>50230426 >>50231762

>>50230352
All not canon to the games

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 07:19:58 No.50230426 Report

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>>50230387
the 3DS games made it clear that all pokemon universes are parallel and canon.

Sun and Moon had pictures of Ash and his Pikachu, and Rainbow Rocket had Giovanni with Mewtwo like in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 10:49:06 No.50230837 Report

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>>50226617
Problem with grass mons is GF not gaves them good stats, moves and abillities. If all of this mon has, then it end up good. Rillaboom is a good example of this treatment, if isn't really intedent. I'l see rillaboom will get a nerf in this gen. Maybe they'll just remove grassy glide existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 10:53:09 No.50230847 Report

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>>50226656
I've usually went with Fire or Grass types.

Fuck your shit turtle, there's usually a doper water type available.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 12:17:11 No.50231093 Report

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>>50226617
Because Grass is a bad type period.
People don't want to pick a starter that will put them at a disadvantage when fire is a deent type and water is one of the best type in the game.
Especially when grass is weak to bug and flying, 2 of the 3 most common types in the early game of any pokemon games.
Drop the flying weakness and the resistance flying has to grass and it will make the type a lot more appealing for a starter. (also add in a fairy resistance because fairies are bonkers already)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 12:30:19 No.50231136 Report

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>>50226962
>drop kick
>is a knee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 12:34:16 No.50231151 Report

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Generally fire is simply the best to choose because there is a 100% in every game you can find a grass type early game, and there's a very high chance you can find a water type too. Fire tends to be introduced midgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 12:36:35 No.50231165 Report

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>>50226685
>Fire/Fighting
>Water/Ground
Two phenomenal offensive typings.

>Pure grass
Why did Sceptile get fucked so hard grass bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 13:00:09 No.50231254 Report

Quoted By: >>50231633 >>50231704 >>50231716

>>50230342
High-use grass-types are good in spite of their typing, not because of it.
Rillaboom is not getting usage because of its set of resistances or its strong STAB coverage.
It's getting usage because it has an effectively 91 BP priority move, Knock-Off, Fake-Out, and U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:30:40 No.50231633 Report

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>>50231254
Incineroar have the most broken ability in VGC, yet fire are less used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:44:56 No.50231704 Report

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>>50231254
This define any mon if it got good stats and tools for competitive. Grass with it's strengths and weaknesses is fine, fire type too. Only water type is consider strongest with 2 weaknesses on paper, but even good type will make a bad combo with bad stats and tools. Rillaboom is example for good grass type mon, inteleon is good example for a bad mon with water type. Sceptile also has stats like inteleon wich is bad, just like inteleon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:47:01 No.50231716 Report

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>>50231254
>it doesn't count when it's good
furry sisters... are we really the clowns of this world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:50:34 No.50231733 Report

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>>50226617
starting from red and blue the typing has never been "balanced"... desu water is the best type. fire is good as a starter in gen 1 because charizard is slightly better than arcanine in terms of coverage usefulness and ease to get. blastoise is not as good as lapras and venusaur is a waste of a slot. grass just didnt get much support in gen 1 or 2 or 3 onwards. they should have made razor lead a multi hit move and maybe added 2 more moderately interesting grass type moves and maybe 1 more poison type move, 1 more dark and 1 more steel type move, all through gen 2. like i said they just didnt balance it well enough. some of the game they had to rush to get it out in time...

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:57:53 No.50231762 Report

Quoted By: >>50231768

>>50230387
Neither is Bulbasaur being a houseplant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 14:59:01 No.50231768 Report

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>>50231762
Based anon
you destroyed that faggot

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