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Anonymous Thu 21 Apr 2022 21:36:11 No.50241199 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50241271 >>50242798 >>50243126 >>50243143 >>50245561 >>50245643 >>50245943

What are all the moves, abilities, etc that are likely to get rebalanced in Gen 9?
For me the one that jumps out most is Fishious Rend/Bolt Beak. I think they will make it so switching doesn't count for double damage.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Apr 2022 21:49:08 No.50241271 Report

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>>50241199
I don't think they'll touch them. They will just keep them exclusive.

I really hope they buff Skitter Smack. No reason for it to be 90 accuracy. If they made it 60 power and 100 accuracy so it could get the technician boost that would be great.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Apr 2022 21:52:07 No.50241291 Report

Quoted By: >>50245557

Dexit means they don't need to care about shit like that, they can always just bench the 'mons that abuse the thing the best and leave the thing as-is.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:21:14 No.50242798 Report

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>>50241199
Pokemon really needs balance patches more often than 3 years apart.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:40:57 No.50242898 Report

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I feel like Ball Fetch might get a buff since it sucks ass as it is. I mean, yeah, it's a gimmick ability on a basic Pokémon but it does nothing 99% of the time. I'd make it a Storm Drain for all the moves that are blocked by Bulletproof, and then give it to other canine Pokémon. It's also not happening because Regenerator isn't a problem in vgc but I'd like to see Regenerator cut down from 33% healing to 25%.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:43:59 No.50242911 Report

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>>50242898
I think they would only touch Ball Fetch if another/new mon gets it. Otherwise, Boltund doesn't even retain it from Yamper so it's not something that would get amplified usage as is.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:47:20 No.50242925 Report

Quoted By: >>50242932 >>50242934 >>50242947 >>50245273

Was he right?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:48:59 No.50242932 Report

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>>50242925
Talonflame is indeed currently in NU in smogon singles. Man was right, both that Bravest Brid got nerfed too hard and where it would end up afterwards.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:49:06 No.50242934 Report

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>>50242925
Not at the time but now he is. People use the bravest bird defensively nowadays

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 02:50:30 No.50242947 Report

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>>50242925
Absolutely. Talonflame would've been unironically healthy to the meta in both 7 and 8

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 03:23:30 No.50243126 Report

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>>50241199
Steam Engine is going to get gutted to only be a +3 or even a +2 Speed boost. Game Freak will never let a filthy Rock-type upstaging Charizard as a strong Fire-type gimmick abuser in their official format go unpunished.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 03:27:02 No.50243143 Report

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>>50241199
More moves will be dropped than adjusted.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 09:24:52 No.50244681 Report

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>>50243126
Incineroar went unpunished.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 11:39:17 No.50245273 Report

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>>50242925
>make a million and one different ways to counter priority in gen 7
>nerf gale wings into the ground anyway
Just make it not work with status moves, and it would have been fine.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:28:53 No.50245557 Report

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>>50241291
They can't bench them FOREVER, brainlet. Especially not if they are legendaries, starters, or have any degree of popularity. They might be shelved for a generation but at some point they'd have to be rebalanced.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:30:19 No.50245561 Report

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>>50241199
keep in mind they balance stuff about vgc, not fantic smogon meta

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:32:19 No.50245567 Report

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>>50245273
They didn't even need to do that.
I'm pretty sure Psychic Terrain existing was enough to stop it, and it would've given Lycanroc, Bruxish, and even Tsareena an actual niche.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:32:38 No.50245570 Report

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>>50245557
Yeah but by that point power creep well be far enough along that Dracovish will be in PU with Garchomp.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:33:27 No.50245573 Report

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how do you get a gale wings fletchling?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:34:08 No.50245581 Report

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>>50245567
>I'm pretty sure Psychic Terrain existing was enough to stop it
Does it stop priority status moves too? Like Roost and Tailwind? Because those are really what made Talonflame so great. It could be fairly versatile.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:46:33 No.50245640 Report

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>>50245561
It's a tough balancing act. You have to worry about speed control when there's little switching and you have to worry about your resist getting murdered by Band when there's a lot of switching. I feel like they're going to murder the moves, especially since the HAs came out for the non-Dracovish ones meaning they're faster to get the drop with the double damage.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 12:47:29 No.50245643 Report

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>>50241199
Wild charge should just be electric flare blitz. Buff Volt tackle to 150 if pikachu has to be special

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 13:09:31 No.50245740 Report

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>>50244681
Incineroar wasn't a R*ck-type, and they wanted people to like Incineroar.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 13:15:44 No.50245757 Report

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>>50242898
Game Freak still hasn't touched Run Away, Illuminate or Honey Gather, they're not going to touch Ball Fetch.
Frankly I'm still surprised they actually buffed Pickup.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Apr 2022 13:59:55 No.50245943 Report

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>>50241199
Why balance moves when you can just remove them, lol?

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