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Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 01:42:09 No.50405226 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50405676 >>50405684 >>50405707 >>50405869

>Dub
>Misty says catching pokémon is wrong

>Original
>Misty just tells the villain to use pokéballs instead of putting the birds in electrified cages

What was 4kids thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:26:59 No.50405676 Report

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>>50405226
they weren't (as usual)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:27:46 No.50405684 Report

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>>50405226
Dub Misty is a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:30:58 No.50405707 Report

Quoted By: >>50405716

>>50405226
This is the same dub that said pokemon fighting was wrong in the previous movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:31:39 No.50405716 Report

Quoted By: >>50406046

>>50405707
not quite what was said though

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Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:33:37 No.50405733 Report

Quoted By: >>50405807

>villain is evil because... he doesn't use pokeballs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:44:09 No.50405807 Report

Quoted By: >>50407019

>>50405733
Well technically speaking they only took issue with the poachers dumping pollution everywhere to tire out Suicine since Suicune had to use its powers to clean the area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 02:55:21 No.50405869 Report

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>>50405226
>movie 1
>Pokemon fighting is wrong!
>doesn't attempt to clarify they're talking about brutal fighting instead of competitive fighting

>movie 2
>capturing pokemon is wrong!
>again, doesn't clarify

4kids is retarded

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Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 03:10:59 No.50405983 Report

Quoted By: >>50407049

The charges, Officer Jenny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 03:18:57 No.50406046 Report

Quoted By: >>50407135

>>50405716
Yeah it is. She literally said "Making Pokémon fight is wrong".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 03:54:04 No.50406259 Report

Quoted By: >>50407039

I've always liked that the Japanese script actually talks through the distinction; e.g that Lawrence Gelardan III unmistakably has no regard for the birds welfare and just wants them on display by any means necessary. Which is usually what the "poacher" distinction in general is about. I wonder if 4Kids didn't want to tackle that or figured Misty wouldn't even give him the benefit of the doubt. Also wonder if any of this was a response to that awkward first movie bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:14:12 No.50407019 Report

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>>50405807
If they catch the Suicune though then there will never be any pollution in any lakes in that region ever again because a human is in charge of that overpowered power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:17:58 No.50407039 Report

Quoted By: >>50407061 >>50407085

>>50406259
I think the writers at 4kids looked at this, thought "WTF is this even about" and rewrite it to be more simple and standard.
I don't think the mainstream Pokemania audiences would really care about "minor" dialogue changes about the morality of Pokemon treatment.
I mean Pokemon are not even a metaphor for anything in the real world in most of the anime (except for the fifth movie) so it's not like there's a lot of literary value lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:20:18 No.50407049 Report

Quoted By: >>50407103

>>50405983
unnecessary violence you stupid retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:22:18 No.50407061 Report

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>>50407039
P.S. in the fifth movie Latias is a metaphor for Japanese animation spreading out in the West
I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:25:37 No.50407085 Report

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>>50407039
I'm just trying to say that the meta narratives in Pokemon aren't really obvious as to what they're supposed to represent.
Because it's a toy commercial

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:29:57 No.50407103 Report

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>>50407049
You can't even charge someone with that for doing the same thing to a dog in real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:36:37 No.50407135 Report

Quoted By: >>50407208

>>50406046
It was “Pokemon weren’t meant to fight, not like this.” They weren’t just fighting in a normal pokemon match, they were going for the throats. You can be a boxing trainer and think that a brutal fight to the death is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 May 2022 06:54:36 No.50407208 Report

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>>50407135
Man just imagine if someone fully reanimated that part and made it genuinely, horribly violent fighting while an emotional Misty watches in horror. Would be cool.

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