>>50454841I'm not saying it "doesn't count". I'm just saying that it doesn't mean Johto is "West Kanto". No one calls Sinnoh "The Kanto Mountains" when it probably has the worst distribution of all the gens mentioned in
>>50454689 In fact I full admit that Gen 2 some instance of "Kanto Pandering"
Bugsy; having two Gen 1 cocoons instead of any Johto bugs is dumb
The Bug Contest should let you find Gen 2 bugs too
Morty and his entire gym using ONLY the Gastly line is
Every Gym Leader should have had at least one Gen 2 Pokemon on their teams
Wanting have ALL the NEW Pokémon available in Johto the NEW region) is a reasonable expectation since its supposed to be as A WHOLE NEW WORLD
CHARIZARD didn't NEED to be into the intro, (though considering it appears alongside the Johto Starters its clearly meant to be a passing the torch sort of thing, not Kanto Pandering so forget I even mentioned that)
But one thing (you) have to remember is that GSC is a DIRECT SEQUEL, as in it DIRECTLY FOLLOWS the events that occurred in RBY. Giovanni was defeated in RBY and GSC plot is about what Team Rocket does to cope. it would be weird if Kanto didn't have a strong presence in the game, that doesn't mean Johto leans on Kanto.
Maybe the games could have been better if they had just made Johto into a super region instead of adding Kanto, Though considering that GSC and HGSS were critically acclaimed and beloved by most fans at the time of release they're mostly fine the way they are.
And no, Johto fans don't "like Johto because its attached to Kanto" they like Johto for Johto. People like the Kanto part in the game, because its more game. The idea that Johto leans on Kanto or as no identity is like buying a laptop, getting a free tablet due to a promo, and claiming that the laptop is nothing without the tablet.
tdlr. Johto isn't any less of a region than anywhere else just because it doesn't follow rules made by games that came after it. .