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There's literally nothing wrong with bosses having "unfair" advantages over the player

Anonymous Fri 27 May 2022 23:32:49 No.50544739 View View Reply Original Report

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The player already has so many tactical advantages over the bosses, if you don't give the latter a stronger team than the former to compensate, then the difficulty declines exponentially as you progress and have more and more options to catch, just like the official games. Radical Red, Unbound, Reborn's field effects are actually an amazing idea, any good RPG generally does something similar.

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Anonymous Fri 27 May 2022 23:36:51 No.50544774 Report

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>>50544739
There's a point where this is reasonable, but in RR's case, the beginning is a bitch because of Pokemon and moves you can't access until much later (and in some cases, all the way at the endgame), and the endgame's a bitch because of Pokemon with retardedly high BSTs you can't access until Post-League, if at all.

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Anonymous Fri 27 May 2022 23:38:48 No.50544789 Report

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>>50544739
The real solution is to restrict the players to the same resources as the boss, not give the boss extra advantages that are inaccessible to the player. Instead of inventing field effects or whatever the fuck, just make the player unable to use items (or restrict them to the same number of items as the opponent) and institute level caps.

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Anonymous Fri 27 May 2022 23:54:52 No.50544976 Report

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>>50544739
Preaching to the choir

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 00:33:06 No.50545346 Report

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>>50544739
Or just, you know, make the AI not retarded, but I guess that's too much to ask for from a faggot who just copy pastes code he finds.

Ultra Necrozma and Eternamax Eternatus shows there's nothing wrong with a boss that has an obvious advantage over the player. Radical Red takes the concept too far.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:00:20 No.50546016 Report

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>>50544739
>any good RPG generally does something similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:36:26 No.50546305 Report

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>>50544789
>The real solution is to restrict the players to the same resources as the boss
Doesn't work

If the player has the same resources as the boss, then it takes little to no thought and strategy to win, because otherwise threatening mons like Dragonite or Blissey are trivialized by the player being able to just pick hard counters like Triple Axel Mawevile and Swords Dance Hawlucha respectively and 6-0

On the other hand, when field effects diminish the weaknesses of the moms the boss uses and makes, then it becomes more strategic than rock paper scissors, winning strategies are more involved, you really gotta have a plan and cohesive teambuilding rather than just throwing 6 mons that hard counter the bosses 6 mons individually, that's what's so good about them

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:36:31 No.50546306 Report

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>>50544739
I mean, I agree. But RR did it in retarded way, purposely reduced player options by blocking things that braindead developer considers "cheap" and had plenty of cringe text changes fueled by said braindead developer's ego.
I'm not gonna touch this slog at all if person that made it does not want it. There's actual hundreds of Pokemon hacks and thousands of different games, not mentioning different hobbies. I don't need to deal with disrespectful piece of shit.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:39:11 No.50546328 Report

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>>50544739
Where can I download this? Never tried it and I wanna experience first hand how unfair it supposedly is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:42:16 No.50546353 Report

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>>50544774
>the beginning is a bitch because of Pokemon and moves you can't access until much later
This is true of nearly every main game.
>and the endgame's a bitch because of Pokemon with retardedly high BSTs
The player similarly has access to a number of high BST mons and legendaries, you have pretty much every resource in the game by that point. There's extremely little gap between the player and AI by endgame, accounting for all of the player's advantages

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2022 02:47:40 No.50546393 Report

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>>50546328
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=437688

Scroll down to the "download release" section and also has tutorial on how to patch it onto the base fire red ROM

People aren't lying that it does give the bosses access to mons and advantages that the player doesn't have, atleast not at the time of fighting them, fair warning, so teambuild thoughtfully. I'd also read the documentation since there's alot of balance changes, mainly on already existing shitmons, some like for example Meganium and Garbodor are surprisingly viable due to the buffs they got

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