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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 03:19:12 No.50653484 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50653591 >>50653634 >>50654753 >>50655429 >>50657038 >>50657256

>Zamazenta doesn't learn King's Shield
>Zamazenta doesn't learn Body Press
>Zamazenta has no HP recovery nor offensive lowering moves
Sabotaged

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 03:33:05 No.50653591 Report

Quoted By: >>50655488

>>50653484
A shame it's the cooler mon
Zacian looks retarded permanently having a sword in its mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 03:39:58 No.50653634 Report

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>>50653484
Is this one of Arceus' child units?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 08:37:25 No.50654753 Report

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>>50653484
Zamazenta is a mon that's solid across the board, but has no "oomph" factor. Everything is just a little bit worse than it needs to be.
92/145(+1)/145 bulk is definitely really good, but Zamazenta easily gets whittled down without recovery.
128 speed is good, but there's nothing Zamazenta even desperately needs to outspeed.
130 attack looks good, until you remember that it can't hold an item, has no attack-boosting ability, and its best boosting move is Howl.
Its movepool seems good, getting 100+ BP stab moves and decent enough coverage options, but because it needs to make room for Howl, it ends up with 4MSS, always lacking at least one move that it really wants.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 12:02:04 No.50655429 Report

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>>50653484
What's a more reasonable expectation? Zamazenta getting buffed enough to be on par with other box legends, or Zamazenta getting nerfed/powercrept enough to drop to OU?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 12:17:04 No.50655488 Report

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>>50653591
>permanently having a sword in its mouth
Wish retards who didn't play the game would stop spouting this. I'm not the biggest fan of the wolves either and zacian is cancer in competitive, but autists keep freaking out about pokemon holding items because "what if they lose it" and it just not being an animal part in general when that's literally the established lore. Zacian and Zamazenta are just normal big wolf pokemon carrying equipment, the form where they have equipment is literally a form, it's them holding it. They can take their equipment off and go back to their default normal wolf looks.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 12:23:35 No.50655513 Report

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Just give it Body Press and Bulk Up and it would be significantly better, slap on Recover or somethinf and you're good to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 12:26:42 No.50655528 Report

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>>50655429
Buffing Zamazenta. GF only bothers nerfing competitively viable pokémon, they don't care about broken box legendaries.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 12:41:00 No.50655598 Report

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>>50655528
I know they wouldn't nerf it on purpose, but maybe on accident.
Especially if movesets are being culled. Imagine it losing Close Combat or something bullshit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 16:32:41 No.50657038 Report

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>>50653484
There was a suggested Zacian nerf in another thread recently which had the side effect of evening out the power gap between it and Zamazenta

>Intrepid Sword changed to "Atk can't be lowered. Ignore boosts to the foe's defences (like Unaware, but lowered defences still apply)."
>Always enters in Uncrowned forme, Rusted Sword activates at the end of the first turn.

Extend this to Zamazenta and it makes a decent switch-in - ignores any boosts to the opponent's attack power, and has higher speed on the first turn for setting up screens in their face.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2022 16:56:53 No.50657256 Report

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>>50653484
>Zamazenta doesn't get Body Press, even though it's like made for it
>Zamazenta's ability is mechanically worse than Zacian's, because it doesn't boost Sp.Def too
this alone is unforgivable. Not learning King's Shield is understandable as it's Aegislash's move but this makes no sense, wtf were they thinking making Zacian this good and Zamazenta this... mediocre

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Has a boxart legendary ever been mogged this hard by its counterpart?

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