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Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:02:31 No.50665872 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50665888 >>50665992 >>50666011 >>50666042 >>50666146 >>50666890 >>50669496 >>50671807 >>50673611

>Can't be Prankstered
>Nothing resists Poison Jab/Throat Chop/Rain boosted Waterfalls
>Good Attack, Speed, and Swords Dance
>Can even explode or lay spikes
Best Swift Swimmer of all time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:03:39 No.50665888 Report

Quoted By: >>50665963 >>50668203

>>50665872
>Rain boosted Waterfalls
???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:11:13 No.50665963 Report

Quoted By:

>>50665888
>Swift Swimmer
Bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:13:12 No.50665992 Report

Quoted By: >>50666063 >>50666179 >>50666193 >>50668230 >>50670694

>>50665872
>"Good" attack is hindered by low power STAB moves
>Swift Swimmer without Water STAB makes Waterfall/Liquidation mediocre at best
>Banded set would make it overreliant on prediction, while LO misses some KOs due to the aforementioned points
>Slower than other Swimmers and even some scarfers
>Non-resistant to Water, meaning Rain can even be detrimental if it gets outsped/misses a KO
>Weak to only one type, but it happens to be the most common in the game

A good Pokémon still, but I don't see it becoming a meta staple. Not even sure Swift Swim is its best ability when Intimidate exist. My prediction is UU with some niche OU usage, but it would depend on next Gen's dexcut and powercreep

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:16:04 No.50666011 Report

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>>50665872
>Best Swift Swimmer of all time?
guessing you weren't around for ORAS or gen 7, only a legendary could possibly be a better swift swimmer than mega pert

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:20:13 No.50666042 Report

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>>50665872
Dont you think all that coverage is a little Overqwil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:23:15 No.50666063 Report

Quoted By: >>50666105

>>50665992
>Weak to only one type, but it happens to be the most common in the game
>Serebii literally says this quote on the majority of his PotW articles
Back off, Joe!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:30:56 No.50666105 Report

Quoted By: >>50666168

>>50666063
>majority
>not always
I still remember that Gen6 Malamar review where he told that it was weak to the most common type in the game: Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:36:53 No.50666146 Report

Quoted By: >>50666191

>>50665872
>Intimidate+black sludge+Prankster immune

HAHA TIME FOR VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:40:36 No.50666168 Report

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>>50666105
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. 4x Weakness to U-turn is pretty damning, in Smogon tiers anyway. If he was talking about VGC, then that's a laughable statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:42:53 No.50666179 Report

Quoted By: >>50666341

>>50665992
>but it happens to be the most common in the game
Bruh, that is the most common filler to every pokémon's drawbacks' list. If people would believe it, by now their lack self-awareness would point to all types being the most common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:44:21 No.50666191 Report

Quoted By: >>50666268 >>50668272

>>50666146
It's not intimidate immune and black sludge is irrelevant there.
Setting up is very risky too but I guess if you know how to predict well you can get away with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:44:33 No.50666193 Report

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>>50665992
I'd say it's definitely a RU mon. It would be OU in any format before BW, but we're talking Gen 8+ levels of powercreep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 16:54:22 No.50666268 Report

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>>50666191
inb4 gets Flip Turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 17:05:27 No.50666341 Report

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>>50666179
Well, maybe I worded it wrong, but EQ is probably the most common attacking move, and Ground itself is usually considered top tier in singles. It's not a deal breaker but it's huge, specially since the Swift Swim set means forgoing Intimidate and its natural bulk is nothing to write home about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 17:05:52 No.50666344 Report

Quoted By: >>50666402

qwlfish with eviolite > overqwil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 17:14:52 No.50666402 Report

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>>50666344
No recovery kills its viability for anything higher than NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 18:21:31 No.50666890 Report

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>>50665872
>no water stab
>better than mega swampert
cmon buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 21:27:53 No.50668203 Report

Quoted By: >>50668786

>>50665888
You have like 40 different swift swimmers to take advantage of water stab. If it’s anything like Venusaur, you don’t need water stab to succeed under rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 21:29:51 No.50668230 Report

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>>50665992
>fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 21:34:46 No.50668272 Report

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>>50666191
Intimidate immune doesn’t matter, it’s a support mon people will use it as a bulky intimidator that poisons. Black sludge is only not relevant right now, it was good for keeping Weezing alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 22:33:17 No.50668786 Report

Quoted By: >>50672452 >>50673591

>>50668203
There is NO chlorophyller that has Fire STAB, if hypotetically speaking there were 40 fire types that could use Chlorophyll Venusaur would be obsolete or at least much less good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 08 Jun 2022 23:58:14 No.50669496 Report

Quoted By: >>50671776

>>50665872
>Nothing resists Poison Jab/Throat Chop/Rain boosted Waterfalls
Not so fast!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 02:26:23 No.50670694 Report

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>>50665992
>>"Good" attack is hindered by low power STAB moves
We don't even know what it's full movepool would be in a mainline game.
But I do agree that Overqwil is more likely to be a supportmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 05:22:13 No.50671776 Report

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>>50669496
Okay, fair enough.
Nothing relevant resists Poison Jab/Throat Chop/Rain boosted Waterfalls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 05:26:27 No.50671807 Report

Quoted By: >>50672357

>>50665872
>Nothing resists Poison Jab/Throat Chop/Rain boosted Waterfalls
Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 07:25:51 No.50672357 Report

Quoted By:

>>50671807
venusaur resists 1 out of those 3 things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 07:57:42 No.50672452 Report

Quoted By:

>>50668786
One day brother, one day, we will have our grass/fire chlrophyll user with flamethrower, energy ball, and rock coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 12:42:23 No.50673591 Report

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>>50668786
That does seem kinda bullshit.
Why do water types get to have a speed boost and STAB from their weather, but fire and grass types have to share?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jun 2022 12:45:52 No.50673611 Report

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>>50665872
This fish is adorable u.u

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