Swampert, samurott and whatever the fuck is that water starter's name intelicton or someshit are all fine, what's up with the seething? Mega swampert was badass too like the other gen 3 mons, tepig ended up pretty okay for a pigmon and same goes to torterra who had this tree growing on It's back, I don't think there's a pokemon gen yet with a maojority of unsolid designs yet, and we can't pin down the early gens because they were setting up the shop and tone, the only ones I saw so far that were really off were lechonk, pawmi and some mons no one even remembers to bring up with how bad and just meh they do look (waiting on the real evos of the starters to give judgement because maybe they will be cool or trashed), the ones that do get hate are memorable in their own way, incineroar got a lot of hate just being a biped, I will admit It's a shame we didn't get anything without only two legs since primarina but the bipeds aren't all just terrible, on their own they're fine, just want fresh air
