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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:07:34 No.50724984 View View Reply Original Report

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Pokemon marriage is canon in the games so why you people are against it?
>nooooo it's bestiality
pokemon are not animals
>nooooo but consent!!
pokemon can perfectly understand and communicate with humans so not a problem
>nooooo it's only ok if it looks like human because...
yuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:08:31 No.50724988 Report

Quoted By: >>50724992

The only animal i want to fuck is ur mom, cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:09:36 No.50724992 Report

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>>50724988
>ur mom joke in 2022
back to discord, underage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:11:14 No.50725001 Report

Quoted By: >>50725019 >>50725029 >>50725849 >>50731987 >>50745709

>>50724984
>Pokemon marriage is canon in the games
It was in the past (seen in the library in Canalave City if I correctly remember). Now, nobody does this anymore...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:11:54 No.50725003 Report

Quoted By: >>50725005

>>50724992
Take your meds, faggot. MILFs are animals and shouls be fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:12:26 No.50725005 Report

Quoted By: >>50725033

>>50725003
Yeah, i'd do your mom but i'm not into pigs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:16:23 No.50725019 Report

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>>50725001
Chivalry is dead, and so is going balls deep in a nidoqueen while it's in heat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:18:10 No.50725029 Report

Quoted By: >>50725046 >>50747502

>>50725001
I saw some NPCs in SWSH talking about having pokemon as their boyfriends/girlfriends.
there's an NPC in one of the gamecube games that has a Hayeena as their boyfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:19:37 No.50725033 Report

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>>50725005
Weak. Nothing wrong with pigs. They just need a bit extra

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:23:23 No.50725046 Report

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>>50725029
Which ones? I have played SWSH and I never heard that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:25:23 No.50725052 Report

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>>50724984
I'm not sure if this subject on /vp/ is satire or not anymore, Like if you're genuinely serious about this please seek help immediately

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:32:39 No.50725075 Report

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why are you letting people tell you what you can and cant jack off to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:47:23 No.50725116 Report

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>>50724984
In the ideal world I (as a male) marry a female Gardevoir (who shares the same Christian values as me), have sex (after marriage) to have children and raise them as a father

Only faggots these days look at this beautiful family example and spit on it. Faggots I tell you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:48:50 No.50725123 Report

Quoted By: >>50728019

>>50724984
>pokemon are not animals
neither are children and it's still disgusting
>pokemon can perfectly understand and communicate with humans
so can children and it's still disgusting
>yuck
you will never be a woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:51:27 No.50725128 Report

Quoted By: >>50725150 >>50725500 >>50726564 >>50727988

because why are you, as a human male, fucking the FROG and not cynthia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 12:57:37 No.50725150 Report

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>>50725128
hes actually fucking neither, since theyre both cartoons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 14:30:04 No.50725500 Report

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>>50725128
Frog is cute, fat with a sweet personality.
Cynthia is skinny, with a bitch personality

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 14:30:58 No.50725507 Report

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>>50724992
take my upvote good redditor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 15:21:54 No.50725775 Report

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>>50725116
Holy fucking based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 15:34:01 No.50725849 Report

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>>50725001
Pokemon were once genetically the same as humans, but not anymore. Like real world humans and chimpanzees. No one in their right mind would think marrying a chimp is ok.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 15:44:55 No.50725927 Report

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>>50724984
I will say that you are taking a line with no prior context at face value. Verily indeed there's zero context behind that text EXCEPT that it comes from a book about folk tales. Some of those tales were given proper context but not that one and others. As such you can't really say anything about it and we can't guess writer's intend from it. And things of that nature happen in real life when text is taken at face value instead of being put in context such as the whole othismos debate on Greek hoplite combat, it's a very long debate with much ink spilled over so I'll just advice you to Google it. AFAIK none of the old text in Legends of Arkeos makes any reference to that text. As such you can't make any absolute conclusions, for example what does marriage entail in the text? Or the often ignored "were the same line"? We simply have no context to properly tie it to and as such it is meaningless.

As for your other points we have people in high positions of influence who have gone out of their way to refer to Pokémon as animal characters. An official style approval guide even puts emphasize on Pokémon replacing real animals. The series itself has referred to Pokémon as "wild creatures", both directly to the player and from an NPC. "Wild creature" is another term for animal, for example I was watching the Sopranos last night and Tony refers to a flock of wild ducks as "wild creatures". The series itself pushes the idea of Pokémon as animal life in both the wild and the domestic sphere which many words could be written on it. As such it's understanble why people do not like the idea of molesting innocent, feral creatures. Me thinks people here that gags and what could be interpreted as platonic gestures a bit too serious. I will simply say that it's incredibly telling when no Pokémon is recognized as a person and some of the things Pokémon do such as chew on shoes and grass, play fetch, lack of talking, etc really pushes that angle.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 15:46:02 No.50725936 Report

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>>50725927
didnt read but based i think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 15:50:51 No.50725961 Report

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>>50725116
Incredibly based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 16:32:07 No.50726283 Report

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>>50725116
I want one muslim Ivysaur please

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 16:50:06 No.50726477 Report

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>>50724984
he looks like la creatividad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 16:53:13 No.50726503 Report

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>>50726477
because that's him

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 16:58:16 No.50726564 Report

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>>50725128
Humans falling in love with frogs isn't uncommon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 17:56:38 No.50727086 Report

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I see nothing wrong with fucking a Gardevoir wife. At all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:07:43 No.50727187 Report

Quoted By: >>50727192 >>50727220 >>50727607

>>50725116
Wanting to fuck Pokemon is BESTIALITY. Gamefreak shows them playing fetch and eating kibble, they present them as pets in various ways, so it’s bestiality, no different from wanting to fuck a real pet dog. If you feel anything for the ANIMAL in picrel, you are a ZOOPHILE. If you’ve ever looked up pokeporn, you should need to register as a sex offender and should have your pets and kids taken away from you, just like people who have looked up animal porn! IT’S BESTIALITY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:08:57 No.50727192 Report

Quoted By: >>50727220

>>50727187
>gardevoir is a stickman in a dress
>ivysaur is a kaiju/plant hybrid
neither are animals

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:13:51 No.50727220 Report

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>>50727187
I wouldn't say it is simply because it's fantasy. But there's no denying that Pokémon are constructed to be a certain way and are shown at a certain light. I have seen others equate it to zoophilia in a pretty earnest method. This is why I prefer to say it's grooming innocent creatures and twisting them into perverse fantasies.

>>50727192
Pokemon are fictional critters. They're the wild life of their universe in the same way cats, dogs, frogs are in ours. This is why official sources have stated that Pokémon replace real animals, that's the context they are constructed in.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:15:22 No.50727226 Report

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>>50727220
pokemon don't care
they love humans and want to be their romantic partners

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:18:14 No.50727240 Report

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>>50727220
ignore the official context of pokemon in the franchise and fantasize them with definitive human behavior and intelligence
simple fix

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:19:23 No.50727250 Report

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>>50727220
Shut the fuck up leftoid

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:40:03 No.50727374 Report

Quoted By: >>50727525

>>50727220
>This is why I prefer to say it's grooming innocent creatures and twisting them into perverse fantasies.
Looks like it needs to the said once again: Pokemon are canonically sexual beings, and they canonically feel sexual attraction towards humans, as has been shown repeatedly throughout the series. So no, it’s not “twisting them” in any way, it’s just extrapolating what we already know of them. There’s every indication that these “cute innocent critters” fantasize about having passionate sex with human beings. The implication is right there. Sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, but that’s what Gamefreak and TPC have decided to imply.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:42:22 No.50727393 Report

Quoted By: >>50727396

>>50724984
go fuck your dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 18:42:41 No.50727396 Report

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>>50727393
i hate dogs and think they are disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:00:51 No.50727525 Report

Quoted By: >>50727641 >>50730575 >>50735682

>>50727374
I would say scenes such as that are there to exaggerate the feelings Marnie had towards James. Of course it was played off as something akin to a schoolboy crush rather than a genuine romance. James, being a good person, didn't do anything towards the creature. Verily indeed I for sure hope they don't imply people are molesting their pets and the local wildlife and I do not for a second buy that. The people of the Pokémon universe are mostly kind people that respect the natural wolrd and all the fantastical critters that inhabit it.

As I said earlier the series doesn't recognize Pokémon as people and in-game they have been called "wild creatures" which is about as close to calling something an animal without using the word. For example here's what one NPC says about Pokémon:

>At the end of the day, Pokémon are wild creatures. It’s normal for some to trust us and for others to treat us as enemies

In very clear terms the game is telling us Pokémon are as wild animals, they are creatures of instinct, creatures that are part of the natural world. The game here is acquitting Pokémon of their aggressive actions in the game. Just as you shouldn't blame a mountain lion for attacking you, they drive on instinct, the game is telling you the same about Pokémon. In fact domesticated Pokémon act very innocent and sweet, the game does not present them as people but as feral collective. You interact with them as one would with a pet, they behave pet like and they're even kept in farms and are used for labor in the colony or they're bound to their owners. the fact that 99.9% can't communicate directly but do so in a feral fashion adds to it. I will say again Pokémon have a feral innocence to them and it's something I've picked up on replaying Arkeos. I hope to God they never give in to you people's inanity, stick to trash and your own fanfiction.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:15:06 No.50727607 Report

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>>50727187
>what is Mystery Dungeon

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:20:42 No.50727641 Report

Quoted By: >>50734555

>>50727525
>Okay, maybe some Pokemon do want to fuck humans, but the reverse certainly never happens!
lol. Let’s also look at what Brock said after Latias, Bianca’s pet legendary, kissed Ash:
>Misty: ”Wait...was that Bianca...or Latias?”
>Brock: ”I don't know...but I am extremely jealous!”
This is what Gamefreak and TPC have decided to imply with their.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:33:23 No.50727729 Report

Quoted By: >>50727751 >>50727839 >>50728082

>>50724984
>Pokemon marriage is canon in the games so why you people are against it?
Only newfaggots and moralniggers are against something as pure and beautiful as HumanxPokémon marriage.
>pokemon are not animals
Correct
>pokemon can perfectly understand and communicate with humans so not a problem
Also correct, some are way more intelligent than humans, and even gods too,
>yuck
I feel you CHAD OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:37:29 No.50727751 Report

Quoted By: >>50727913

>>50727729
>some are way more intelligent than humans
Don’t forget about this Dr. Footstep quote:
"Humans can't understand the cries of Pokémon, nor our feelings. However, there are some among us that understand human speech..."
Even in the game canon, there are more Pokemon who can understand human language than there are humans who can understand Pokemon language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:49:23 No.50727839 Report

Quoted By: >>50727848 >>50727913 >>50734589

>>50727729
Pokemon are almost never shown being more intelligent than humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:51:49 No.50727848 Report

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>>50727839
https://youtu.be/V7MAP0LU7Zc

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:53:55 No.50727859 Report

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>>50725052
Fuck off dumb underaged Reddıtor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:54:14 No.50727862 Report

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>>50725849
Yet there is that woman who married a dolphin, seethe

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 19:58:16 No.50727888 Report

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>>50725927
TL;DR - also you are smalltime…

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:02:05 No.50727908 Report

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>>50727220
I honestly don't understand why you aren't using Gardevoir for those word-vomits you keep making dearest Zozzle

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:02:56 No.50727913 Report

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>>50727751
Not only that, but also a lot of Pokémon can do it from the moment they are born.
>>50727839
What are you retards trying to do here? The battle has been over since the start.
PokémonXHuman is a thing, it's canon, and you can't do shit about it more than whine like the little moralnigger normalfaggots you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:14:20 No.50727987 Report

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>>50724984
I miss that artist. I hate it when good gay porn artists get ashamed of their work and delete it at all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:14:21 No.50727988 Report

Quoted By: >>50731869

>>50725128
>implying that I don't want to BE the sexually abrasive frog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:19:36 No.50728019 Report

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>>50725123
you have to go back

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:27:53 No.50728082 Report

Quoted By: >>50728279

>>50727729
Incredibly based

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:47:14 No.50728236 Report

Quoted By: >>50728279 >>50728322 >>50728385 >>50728526

i see pokemon as animalistic but clearly pretty smart, obviously able to understand humans to some degree
in world pokephilia is probably taboo but still happens to a degree (zoophilia happens in real life youd be silly to suggest it wouldn't)

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:51:49 No.50728279 Report

Quoted By: >>50728407

>>50728082
No, you are based
>>50728236
>Non randomized filename
>ripped from the worst place in the interweb
>utterly stupid and ignorant comment that outs the poster as the biggest retard and outsider to the franchise
>talks about zoophilia as if it was a small time thing that barely happened when is legal in a lot of countries and openly accessible in the surface web, even google returns results as if nothing
I'm truly tired of normalniggers shitting up the board

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:52:44 No.50728287 Report

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blah blah blah
i got it from google mr mad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 20:57:02 No.50728322 Report

Quoted By: >>50728526 >>50742169

>>50728236
It’s very strongly implied to be uncommon, but accepted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 21:07:09 No.50728385 Report

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>>50728236
>she will never steal your wallet and virginity
PAIN!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 21:11:03 No.50728407 Report

Quoted By: >>50728439

>>50728279
Hey are you the anon who once wrote about the Celtic royal ritual of bathing in a broth made from a freshly fucked and slaughered ex-virgin white mare by chance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 21:15:18 No.50728439 Report

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>>50728407
my sides
thats one specific ritual. And no, im not into celtic stuff and i dont like killing animals other than the bare minimum to eat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 21:26:47 No.50728526 Report

Quoted By: >>50729474

>>50728236
>>50728322
>>50725927
We have a manga with a Bulbasaur literally thinking about marrying her own trainer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 23:21:45 No.50729474 Report

Quoted By: >>50732142 >>50732153

>>50728526
Is this official or
Just a doujin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 23:24:52 No.50729488 Report

Quoted By: >>50729556 >>50729858

>>50724984
Ivyfag will and always be a troll and larp. The retard has been samefagging this thread to keep it relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2022 23:34:25 No.50729556 Report

Quoted By: >>50729858

>>50729488
>anthro discorder still furious n baldin'
Just take your medication already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:20:23 No.50729846 Report

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>>50724984
Heres the only rule anyone should give a fuck about. If you pull your dick out and the Pokemon sucks it, or it clearly gets in heat and begs you to mate with them, then you are allowed to fuck and marry it.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:23:01 No.50729858 Report

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>>50729488
>>50729556
I dont follow discord troonery
But pokephilia and furfaggotry are both based.
If you dont agree you are a troon, a faggot and a nigger normalfaggot moralnigger tranny.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:27:55 No.50729894 Report

Quoted By: >>50729902

Now it's not all of /vp/, but it seems like quite a large portion gets really upset when you say you like quadrupeds, which seems weird!

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:29:50 No.50729902 Report

Quoted By: >>50730020 >>50732986

>>50729894
never seen that happen
All pokemon deserve love, two, four, more or no legs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:32:59 No.50729916 Report

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>>50725927
Go back esl tourist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:33:59 No.50729923 Report

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>>50724992
Your mom jokes never go out of style fagget, quit pretending to be older than 18

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 00:48:36 No.50730020 Report

Quoted By: >>50730170

>>50729902
Based 3-legged Pokémon hater

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 01:11:08 No.50730170 Report

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>>50730020
boldore NEEDS love too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 01:13:04 No.50730182 Report

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Terrible troll

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 02:14:25 No.50730575 Report

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>>50727525
>the game does not present them as people but as feral collective.
The games barely presents the Pokemon in any way at all, 99% of the focus is on the humans. However, in the anime, they do have different degrees of anthropomorphism. The way the humans interact a Pokemon like Lucario or Gallade is different than the way they interact with some shouldermon. Not only that, but this is also seen in the way different Pokemon interact with each other:
https://youtu.be/eTvoct7sB_k
It’s brief, but you can see it at 0:16. Braixen is trying to comfort Eevee, and she’s not licking him or nuzzling him like a fox would do with another fox. She’s petting him like a person would pet a puppy. They’re something of a collective, but they occupy different places on the anthropomorphism hierarchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 02:31:57 No.50730697 Report

Quoted By: >>50730729 >>50730769

>>50725927
This fucker.
Just ignore him, he once fucked a dog and now it's so regretful that criticizes other's FICTIONAL FANTASIES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 02:37:32 No.50730729 Report

Quoted By: >>50730962

>>50730697
if /vp/ had the self awareness to ignore the ninetales poster these threads would keep 404ing at 30 posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 02:43:41 No.50730769 Report

Quoted By: >>50731810

>>50730697
No sane person would regret a doing a dog cookie. That nigger is a PHONY.
Once you taste the meat fortune cookie, you can't never go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 03:19:22 No.50730962 Report

Quoted By: >>50731979

>>50730729
Icefag probably isn’t trolling, a lot of people unironically think like him.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67636167
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/76119222?page=2
They’re creepy, and they thankfully seem to be in the minority, but they’re out there.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 06:03:40 No.50731810 Report

Quoted By: >>50733284

>>50730769
you seem like a knowledgable person.
please tell me more about the cock-milking prophecy pastry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 06:17:42 No.50731869 Report

Quoted By: >>50733309

>>50727988
Why are japanese artist so autistic holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 06:45:11 No.50731979 Report

Quoted By: >>50732135 >>50732175

>>50730962
I think it's inane simply because of the dynamic at play. But again you can't really fault people for thinking that way since that's how the series choses to present Pokémon especially in the games. Even the headwriter of the original anime made it a point that Pokémon in the anime behave a bit more people like simply because that's how critters need to be written in episodic dramas and even threw in a real dog. Not once does he mention that it's because the Pokémon are meant to be seen as smart or even as people but as a necessity of dramas.

Likewise the games make genuine efforts to push the idea of a Pokémon as a wild creature and a pet as well as the anime. What is one suppose to come out assuming when they programmed Pokémon to chew on shoes and grass just as real dogs do? Or that they actually modeled Pokémon behavior after that of dogs and you play fetch with them as one does with their dog? Even the anime partakes in that imagery. No doubt as I have said in the past Pokémon are not 1:1 with creatures from the real world but there is a genuine effort to present them that way and this is context that people pick up on.

You can't genuinely think it's disgusting when the series constructs Pokémon that way, when they're not even people and when they even lack the basic agency to speak, something that is very common among fictional critters such as the crew from Top Hat or Adventure Time for a modern example.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 06:47:44 No.50731987 Report

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>>50725001

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 07:30:40 No.50732135 Report

Quoted By: >>50732235

>>50731979
Actually meant to type that Shudo used a real dog as an example when talking about Pokémon anthropomorphism. And of course I meant Top Cat instead of Top Hat.

Compare the way the Top Cat crew is presented vs Pokémon
https://youtu.be/tBDF-UQWHh0

A Pokémon lack to communicate in the anime aside from their names takes away a great deal of agency and it's even worse in the games where 98% of Pokémon only communicate with their 8bit cries. Pokémon for the most part sit at an even lower rung in the anthropomorphic scale than the Top Cat example and those cats are alley cats and not proper people in universe yet they exhibit a great deal of anthropomorphism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 07:31:41 No.50732142 Report

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>>50729474
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PPP20

Official manga, but it's made for girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 07:34:07 No.50732153 Report

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>>50729474
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PPP21

Linked you the wrong chapter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 07:42:53 No.50732175 Report

Quoted By: >>50733354

>>50731979
I don’t think it’s disgusting, I just think it’s creepy to completely dehumanize the more humanlike species just because they play fetch and stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 07:59:45 No.50732235 Report

Quoted By: >>50733354

>>50732135
Top Cat is a joke character. If you think Pokemon is such a joke of a series that it’s appropriate to compare it to some Hanna-Barbera cartoon, why are you even arguing about all this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 13:03:20 No.50732986 Report

Quoted By: >>50733284

>>50729902
Based mawile enjoyer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 13:28:16 No.50733091 Report

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>>50725116
God Bless you.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 13:48:25 No.50733156 Report

Quoted By:

>he still thinks whatever he says will matter here
Just give up already, you stupid prude Autismo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 13:50:21 No.50733163 Report

Quoted By: >>50733277

>>50726503
So, what will happen to future Pokémon games if he is the director? Say, How would he handle Unova remakes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:24:51 No.50733277 Report

Quoted By:

>>50733163
>pokemon will be 10/10, with crazy good story, likable characters, and addicting gameplay

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:26:17 No.50733284 Report

Quoted By:

>>50731810
What do you wish to know? Z is kinda legal and you can find almost anything on the surface web. Go wild anon.
>>50732986
Little pixie rascal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:31:17 No.50733301 Report

Quoted By: >>50733501 >>50733520

>>50724992
>pokefucker joke in 2022
back to e621 coomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:34:18 No.50733309 Report

Quoted By: >>50733682

>>50731869
it's because of the 0 human contact policy in that country. it's not even a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:43:38 No.50733354 Report

Quoted By: >>50733746 >>50733820

>>50732175
Except those people aren't doing anything. It's the series itself that dehumanizes the little critters, not anyone who posted in those threads. All those things you mention dehumanize the Pokémon, those are activities associated with Domestic Animals, not people. I will state once more that the series itself doesn't recognize any of the Pokémon as people, not even Meowth from the anime. And if you dig deeper you even have the people running the series telling merchandisers to NOT humanize the Pokémon, in essence they are saying that if you humanize a Pokémon your product will be rejected. Verily indeed a lot of those guidelines deal directly against that and even stating that Pokémon do not behave as humans do. Even behind the scenes for the anime you have the man responsible for the early anime's writing saying basically that the reason Pokémon even have some semblance of anthropomorphism is because that's how animal characters have to be written in dramas.

This is the context that Pokémon presents the Pokémon as. In reality people pick up on these things and as you note there's plenty of people who genuinely see Pokephilia as fictional bestiality because the series itself doesn't push Pokémon as people and would rather have people thinking of them as animals which in those threads it appears to be the main issue at hand.

>>50732235
TC isn't a joke character. It's a comedy but all the characters are legitimate. I use those for examples because I'm more familiar with those series but you can use other examples. And to end this I'm being a lot more kinder here, the headwriter of the original anime compared the anthropomorphization of the Pokémon to that of real animals.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:49:29 No.50733389 Report

Quoted By: >>50733547

>>50724984
i'm marrying jirachi and no one can stop me

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 14:51:18 No.50733402 Report

Quoted By: >>50733547

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:06:12 No.50733501 Report

Quoted By: >>50733520 >>50733547 >>50739338

>>50733301
VP was a magic animal fucking board before it was an off-model anthroshit board, also I would tell you to fuck off to Reddit where you belong, but they have a regular r/feralpokemonporn thread ongoing with daily updates - and the less said about Discord & Twitter both being IRL paedo havens the better for everyone's sake…

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:08:33 No.50733520 Report

Quoted By: >>50733547 >>50733641

>>50733501
>>50733301
it's funny how ivysaur threads always expose the redditors and newfags in this board

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:13:33 No.50733547 Report

Quoted By: >>50733580 >>50733641 >>50733664

All these people, this anons, writing blogposts about why mating Pokémon is bad, or not canon, or not common, or whatever new goal and cope they fixate with.
Why do you do this?
We have seen all across the franchise, be games, manga, anime, oneshots, movies, OVAs, about it being normal and accepted.
They keep it kinda toned down in the west because it's a kids franchise after all, but still make it pretty obvious for anyone past 15.
Are you niggers still teenagers?
>>50733389
Based, go and marry Jirachi and flip all the moralfaggots who tell you shouldn't
>>50733402
Heart melting bnuuy
>>50733501
>>50733520
The /vp/ discord is that way, they would love more "oldfags" and "antipedos" and retards obsessed with reddit.
Enjoy a Mawile with shoes, i bet this makes your jimmies really tingle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:19:48 No.50733580 Report

Quoted By: >>50733606

>>50733547
Stop using words like the N word, there's no reason to use it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:24:22 No.50733606 Report

Quoted By:

>>50733580
The only people who get rustled by the nigger word are moralfaggots and niggers.
Which one are you? A moralfaggot or a nigger?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:28:53 No.50733641 Report

Quoted By: >>50733649 >>50733772

>>50733547
I know its you Cuckpea, stop doing this shit to me thinking it will stop me
>>50733520
Why would anyone except pedomods have a problem with the ToadCat?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:30:21 No.50733649 Report

Quoted By: >>50733772

>>50733641
mods are hypocrite pedos
they are ok with nsfw pedo, furry, waifu threads but they lose their minds when I post Ivysaur because discord told them that only anthro shit is fuckable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:32:35 No.50733664 Report

Quoted By: >>50733772

>>50733547
moralfag isn't short for moralfaggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:35:47 No.50733682 Report

Quoted By:

>>50733309
Thank god i'm not a jap with cuck ntr nigger furry rape fetsish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:45:59 No.50733746 Report

Quoted By: >>50734840

>>50733354
You’re just reiterating your point that the writers supposedly want people to see them as mere beasts. When you see something looking and acting like Cinderace, your brain just automatically categorizes it as a person, right? So to move it from that category to beast category, you need to dehumanize it in your mind, right? That’s what’s creepy about it.
Also, those Hanna-Barbera cartoons definitely aren’t supposed to be taken seriously. For example, you’re not supposed to think “why doesn’t Yogi Bear just get a job and buy his own food”, or that his rights are being violated, because he’s a silly character in a silly world. I’d sure as hell hope Gamefreak takes the Pokemon world more seriously than one of these Hanna-Barbera worlds you keep citing. Otherwise, yeah, none of this is even worth arguing about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:48:56 No.50733764 Report

Quoted By:

yeah gonna jack off to pokemon whether or not the "lore" says theyre smart or not, sorry!
have jacked off to worse shit in the past and didnt care then either! sorry!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:49:57 No.50733772 Report

Quoted By: >>50733835

>>50733641
>>50733649
>Sample
>master1200
You had one job, and you still fucked up.
And I'm not Cuckpea, i have no personality in this site.
>>50733664
you are sticking out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:56:19 No.50733820 Report

Quoted By: >>50733919

>>50733354
Pokémon even have some semblance of anthropomorphism is because that's how animal characters have to be written in dramas.
your argument goes out the window the moment the writer thinks it convenient to have them act like people. the ones that are basically walking fursuits, or even people (mr. mime) are flagrant examples.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 15:58:07 No.50733835 Report

Quoted By: >>50733875

>>50733772
'master1200' is from pixiv

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:03:30 No.50733875 Report

Quoted By: >>50733890

>>50733835
Wow, captain obvious here
well captain obvious, you need to expand the pic before downloading it or you get a low res or compressed version.
Look, the real pic is an uncompressed png, not a jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:05:06 No.50733890 Report

Quoted By: >>50733899

>>50733875
idc it's the same image in the same resolution

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:06:33 No.50733899 Report

Quoted By: >>50733909

>>50733890
>Compressed, artifacted jpg vs uncompressed, pristine png
you are just trolling

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:07:55 No.50733909 Report

Quoted By: >>50734298

>>50733899
No i'm not, it's just these are small pictures so having them in jpg don't matter.
it would be bad if they were larg/wallpaper size

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:08:55 No.50733919 Report

Quoted By: >>50733981

>>50733820
Anon, what do you think anthropomorphism means? Yes, they behave people like because of that. A lot of work of fiction have that especially cartoons. Scooby-Doo can talk, Courage the Cowarldy Dog can use computers, even more grounded series like Lassie have her being able to understand and talk to humans. That's what Shudo meant. Shudo makes the point that dramas are anthropocentric thus they must have anthropomorphic elements extended to the animal characters and he even talks about how that manifests itself on how we view real animals such as ascribing human characteristics to them. An example would be Charles Darwin talking about birds singing and courting one another.

And your examples aren't people, they're Pokémon thus they exist within the framework of what a Pokémon is. People post that Mr. Mime screencap of it eating like a dog because it establishes tha there is no such thing as a "person" Pokémon, only Pokémon. Mr. Shudo calls them animal characters but, just like the product guide, makes a distinction between them and the real thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 16:17:47 No.50733981 Report

Quoted By:

>>50733919
Pokemon are anthropomorphized to the point where many people see them as animal people. But maybe that’s unintentional. I mean, Gamefreak doesn’t have good writers, so it wouldn’t be surprising if they just accidentally severely overhumanized the monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 17:06:15 No.50734298 Report

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>>50733909
>small pictures so having them in jpg don't matter.
it does jpeg looks like shit

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 17:53:13 No.50734555 Report

Quoted By:

>>50727641
Machamps are...COOL!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 17:59:45 No.50734589 Report

Quoted By: >>50734840

>>50727839
>mewtwo
>latias
>meowth
>literally every pokemon that is able to understand complex commands natively (all of them)
There's a disconnect because it's a family friendly IP so it cant be realistic so you get illogical shit like sapient humanoid pokemon eating animal food or not building their own civilization despite being hyper smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 18:30:00 No.50734840 Report

Quoted By: >>50734989 >>50735094 >>50735348

>>50733746
No. I see Cinderace as a Pokémon and acknowledge the context behind what a Pokémon is. People do the same in the threads you posted, even the poll has a majority calling the 2nd poster a degenerate. Indeed if the series doesn't recognize the Pokémon as people and presents a specific context for them than no one has an obligation to see from your sensensibilities. It's not at all creepy when it's a context you are presented with and whether you want to admit it or not context is very important. So for those people they don't care about looks or anything of that sort, they see Pokémon in a different view from yours and one that's not particularly wrong. Again it bears again to ask again, why doesn't the series recognize any Pokémon as a person?

And those cartoons, much like Pokémon, are light hearted series. You just want to dismiss them because they highlight how low Pokémon stand in the anthropomorphic scale most of the time.

>>50734589
It's not about being illogical. It's about acknowledging that they constructed their universe to be a certain way. They didn't construct a universe with 'humanoids' in the sense that you are trying to evoke in mind. There's no such thing as fantasy dwarves or elves, or even something like the Argonians and Khajiit from TES. Simply put there is only the fantastical wild life and the occasional supernatural entity in Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 18:49:45 No.50734989 Report

Quoted By:

>>50734840
>fantastical wild life
There's literal wildlife in pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:03:19 No.50735094 Report

Quoted By: >>50735362

>>50734840
The human brain is instinctually programmed to quickly recognize things as human or nonhuman. When a human sees something looking and acting like Cinderace, they’re instinctually programmed to mentally categorize it as “person”. That’s just a biological fact of the human mind. So yes, my description of things is accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:37:47 No.50735348 Report

Quoted By:

>>50734840
>Again it bears again to ask again, why doesn't the series recognize any Pokémon as a person?
Because at its core, it’s not actually a wholesome series. All of the saccharine kid friendliness was tacked on shortly after its conception in order to be more marketable to kids and parents. They were originally going to have the trainers beat their Pokemon into submission with whips, and they only got rid of that for the above mentioned reason. In the anime, there was even an episode where a trainer was whipping the shit out of his Sandshrew, and Ash was portrayed as the bad guy for not minding his own business over it.
There’s a good reason why Shudo thought about making an ENTIRE MOVIE about Pokemon rising up over being treated like subhumans. Deep down, Pokemon has always been a series about subjugating fantastical, sometimes clearly sapient creatures. It’s a power fantasy. Pokemon ARE people…at least some of them are. That doesn’t clash with the setting at all. It enhances it. It strengthens the power trip. You’re dominating something with human intelligence and personhood and turning it into your subservient pet.
And that’s why human-Pokemon romance is cute and wholesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:40:57 No.50735362 Report

Quoted By: >>50735420

>>50735094
t. nigger who can't think outside of the most basic monkey instincts of his monkey nigger brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:49:51 No.50735420 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735362
>STOP QUESTIONING GAMEFREAK’S CREEPY FURSUIT JOBMONS YOU NIGGER!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:54:28 No.50735443 Report

Quoted By: >>50735457 >>50735520 >>50735690 >>50739368

>>50724984
>pokemon are not animals
Pokemon are kept as pets, they are hunted and farmed like livestock, they look and act like real-world animals for the most part, and 99% of them cannot speak human language

They are literally this universe's version of animals, shut up coomer

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:57:11 No.50735457 Report

Quoted By: >>50738251

>>50735443
no way, ever since Gen3, pokemon became part of human socities, with human jobs, wearing human clothes, and act like humans

also kek at "pets" parts, when pokemon always literally tells you to go out and beat the fuck out of them to make them your battle slaves but because it's a children game they lie to you with "friendship" bullshit which doesn't make any sense because you are taking them out from their natural habitants, and force them to love in small brain washing balls against their will and if they refuse, you use a stronger ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 19:58:06 No.50735464 Report

Quoted By: >>50735490

I think we can all agree here that cinderace is not a pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:02:15 No.50735490 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735464
it's 100% digimon reject but furries and boot lickers will always deny it

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:08:41 No.50735520 Report

Quoted By: >>50735590 >>50735598 >>50747604

>>50735443
What type of pet is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:19:36 No.50735590 Report

Quoted By: >>50735603

>>50735520
A fictional one

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:20:58 No.50735598 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735520
That's my wife you're talking to, watch your mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:21:29 No.50735603 Report

Quoted By: >>50742092

>>50735590
Why is Gamefreak creating sexy fictional pets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:30:35 No.50735682 Report

Quoted By:

>>50727525
>I hope to God they never give in to you people's inanity
It’s imminent. They’ll have some waifumon get together with a human man. And why wouldn’t they do that? Their ultimate goal is to make money, they’re going to do whatever gives them more money.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:31:33 No.50735690 Report

Quoted By: >>50735767 >>50735790 >>50737350 >>50737363

>>50735443
Yes this is pretty much the case. They're not real ones but still exist to take up the mantle of them. They're essentially like real animals in our world except magical and fantastical. In the Pokémon universe they replace real animals which is what the product approval manual clearly states.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:42:18 No.50735767 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735690
People can’t accept that Pokemon are pets because Gamefreak is wildly incompetent at designing them as pets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jun 2022 20:45:21 No.50735790 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735690
>they should never be described as data of any sort
shrinksisters... we win....

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 01:22:37 No.50737350 Report

Quoted By: >>50742092

>>50735690
>um, pokemon cant be data! theyre all real!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 01:23:32 No.50737363 Report

Quoted By: >>50737421 >>50742092

>>50735690
>the same legal BS / licensing doccument which states "don't reffer to PocketMonsters as monsters"
YAWN~!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 01:30:38 No.50737421 Report

Quoted By:

>>50737363
AFAIK they don't refer to them as pocket monsters in-universe anymore, not even in Japan. The term pocket monster in Japan is only in use because its grandfathered in but they also use the term pokemon over there too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 01:32:34 No.50737438 Report

Quoted By:

>UMMM!!! THE GAME ACTUALLY SAYS IM ALLOWED TO MASTURBATE TO THE CARTOON ANIMAL!
>NOOOOO!! MASUDA SAID YOU CAN'T! YOU CAN'T! STOP!
why does /vp/ do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 01:44:39 No.50737509 Report

Quoted By:

>m-muh riters
Reminder the writers write a proper script for Ikue Ōtani, which she proceeds to speak in Pikachu for her performance. Even the writers understand pokémon can speak normally even if no-one but Meowth knows what they're saying.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 03:01:28 No.50737959 Report

Quoted By: >>50742651 >>50746301

Of course Gamefreak doesn’t mind people crushing on Pokemon. Why else would they have made something this perfect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 03:59:10 No.50738251 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735457
no no, you see, they hop out of the grass because they recognize your worth as a trainer and are eager to join you. they also fight til they drop unconscious because they live and breathe for battle! even though predators and prey animals avoid fighting in real life as much as possible to minimize their odds of getting injured.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 08:40:41 No.50739338 Report

Quoted By: >>50739448

>>50733501
Fuck off, poser. This was the most posted image back in the early days of /vp/. Also no true oldfag would call it "VP".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 08:50:13 No.50739368 Report

Quoted By:

>>50735443
Also niggas 200 years ago and they're still persons

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 09:13:53 No.50739448 Report

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>>50739338
congrats on outing me as a tourist who didn't even lurked here prior to 2013 and made only about 20 posts total between 2016~2019 my dearest Anon, have a cookie for such arduous endavour…

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 15:03:50 No.50742092 Report

Quoted By: >>50742651 >>50742837

>>50737363
I think people mistake what the guide is about. It's my understanding that almost every big company has one of these. You can basically think of it as a "pokemon guide for dummies". It's meant to not only educate people but also dictates how they want others to portray their series. It's basically telling merchandisers to follow these rules or your product will be rejected, it's there to save everyone a headache and a half. Thus the people who run the series and their associates don't have to follow what's written but those on the outside do. Seeing how important merchandise is for Pokémon this gives us a glimpse into the window on how they want others to portray the Pokémon.

And verily indeed the fact that they even have a section dedicated to the discussion of REAL, keyword here, animals and even being specific by stating that Pokémon replace them is awfully telling. Fact is that the series has moved away from terms like monster as well. It is my understanding that they never refer to Pokémon as monsters anymore in the pokeverse. In Arceus the term monster is only used once to describe the player which I'm assuming is the same as the Japanese version. Verily indeed Arceus does use the term "beast", "creature", and "wild creature" to describe Pokémon. The term "Pocket Monster" instead is pretty much only used in Japan but only for marketing such as the title of the anime and some of the games, the term Pokémon is instead used most of the time. So there is in fact a genuine move to dissociate Pokémon with the term 'monster', it's only in use in some specific context due to it being an old term.

>>50737350
Porygon is a living creature.

>>50735603
GameFreak didn't. Pokémon designs are really dialed back compared to some of its (former) competiton. Instead I would argue that Pokémon has mastered the art of cute creature design and people really, really like cute things. See gen 4 of MLP for example, those characters have the most r34.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 15:11:53 No.50742169 Report

Quoted By:

>>50728322
What episode is this from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 15:57:59 No.50742651 Report

Quoted By: >>50744331

>>50742092
>GameFreak didn't.
Completely untrue. >>50737959
>But that’s not as overt as Digimon!
And? You don’t think anything is hot unless it’s as in your face as Digimon? If that’s your threshold then you’re probably desensitized and need to lay off the porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 16:16:52 No.50742837 Report

Quoted By: >>50744331

>>50742092
>Pokémon designs are really dialed back compared to some of its (former) competiton
We got a leg fetish plant type and a blatant "scallie on human" lizard just one generation ago dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 19:22:19 No.50744331 Report

Quoted By: >>50744453 >>50744576 >>50745902

>>50742651
That's nothing. As I said there is convinient attractive designs and that isn't one. Pokémon hasn't added breast to any Pokémon since Gen I for example meanwhile you have designs that are clearly designed to look like attractive human women in those other franchises, a trope that is lacking in Pokémon.

But as I said I don't think it matters in the context of these franchises or maybe even sexual attraction for these creatures. If those smash or pass numbers reflect people's taste you see the eeveelutions constantly at high numbers and the reason is because they are cute. The My Little Pony characters were designed to be cute and as far as I know the MLP characters stand to have the most r34 out of any fictional characters, of course 11 years ago they caused an uproar in the Internet. Pokémon are designed to be a friend as Masuda, Turner and Sugimori have stated in the past, they act cute and innocent. That's something that appears to resonate with you people. In contrast even when Digimon has unapologetic fan service no one really lewds those Digimon if the search bar for the r34 sites are correct, I think something like over 40% of Digimon nsfw is Renamon while those 'cosplay' designs make up less than 10%. Of course a lot more angles could be studied, such as the rise of the furry identity, but I think in general the innocence and cuteness of Pokémon appeal to the types of people who have these inane fantasies rather than raw sexual designs. It peaked with the rise of the bronies a decade ago at least in my opinion. I believe Pokémon heavily leans towards soft, cute designs and has been a master at it for a while.

>>50742837
And those are still very tame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 19:29:54 No.50744391 Report

Quoted By: >>50744574

>>50725927
Oh look it's the pedophile icetale poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 19:37:56 No.50744453 Report

Quoted By: >>50744875

>>50744331
>It’s more subtle than Digimon, therefore it’s just supposed be totally asexual.
This is one of the dumbest pokephilia copes I’ve seen, and you just keep repeating it. Get a grip.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 19:50:26 No.50744574 Report

Quoted By: >>50744812

>>50744391
I don't really think he is a paedo at all dear Anon, merely a wannabe dogfucker with a conscience - his concern trolling seems to be misguided of how this franchise is completely pure and innocent, and is has always been like this - which is a grossly incorrect statement if you aren't a newfag…
>>50736701
Reminder that the Elecric Tale of Pikachu manga was written by a literal hardcore porn mangaka, and a certain Pokémon TGC artist still does lolicon smut of May and Roll from Megaman64

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 19:50:35 No.50744576 Report

Quoted By: >>50744875

>>50744331
Also, have you considered that maybe the waifumons don’t have tits because parents aren’t as likely to buy tittymonster merch for their children?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 20:20:18 No.50744812 Report

Quoted By: >>50745586

>>50744574
>a certain Pokémon TGC artist still does lolicon smut of May and Roll from Megaman64
Who

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 20:26:10 No.50744875 Report

Quoted By: >>50744989 >>50745902 >>50746301

>>50744453
Yes. Pokémon are hardly sexual in nature and design. Salazzle is a little sus but again nothing really to other series. Pokémon doesn't have Pokémon shaking their (non-existent) breasts and other nonsense. They instead act sweet, kind and innocent for the most part which in the anime is amplified by the fact that they only communicate by saying their name.

>>50744576
Yet series like Digimon, when it rivaled Pokémon, had designs like this. Monster Rancher even had the Pixie and it's variants that stood out. Medabots had robots with breasts and feminine figures and even Yokai Watch doesn't lack them. All Pokémon has is Jynx and Nidoqueen both which lack a clear feminine figure. Aside from that, nothing. It's clear it has nothing to do with offeninding anyone but simply that Pokémon doesn't do those types of designs. And even with a lack of those types of designs it overlaps these franchises easily because people love cute things which I've shown is a thing with Pokémon like the eeveelutions or the blow up of MLP almost a decade ago.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 20:38:17 No.50744989 Report

Quoted By: >>50745567

>>50744875
Here's one of the medabots. Also forgot to mention Dark Magician Girl from YuGiOh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 21:51:21 No.50745567 Report

Quoted By: >>50745660 >>50745902

>>50744989
Those are all series which aim at somewhat older audiences and aren’t concerned with the monsters being marketable to very young children. You don’t think they expect parents to buy Angewomon figurines for their kids right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 21:53:00 No.50745586 Report

Quoted By:

>>50744812
>I have no idea how this isn't common knowledge by now, both this and how both the Omocat & Ovopack promotional freelancer artists used to be degen artists before going SFW…
http://archive.alice.al/vp/thread/48322421/#q48322421
Hideki Ishikawa A.K.A. P-head the dude who lewds May is a different person actualy, sorry for misremembering shit
Random link to his stuff from when he still worked at CapCom:
http://hitomi.la/search.html?hideki%20ishikawa

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 21:58:30 No.50745660 Report

Quoted By: >>50745745 >>50745850

>>50745567
Digimon aired in Fox Kids and so did every of those series I've mentioned. They were aimed at the same demographic as Pokémon. Yokai Watch is certainly aimed at the same age group too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:02:51 No.50745709 Report

Quoted By:

>>50725001
Women in-universe still fawn over Machoke and Machamp, and people in-universe still regularly joke about having Pokemon as significant others, so...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:06:06 No.50745745 Report

Quoted By: >>50745902

>>50745660
>Fox Kids
>western hacks are clueless about japanese media
Color me surprised

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:18:19 No.50745850 Report

Quoted By:

>>50745660
No, Digimon was censored for the west. For example, they definitely didn’t let children see Lilithmon rubbing her huge monster tits. That kind of thing isn’t too uncommon. Another example is how they gave Rouge the Bat smaller tits in Sonic X.
Even ignoring this, your argument doesn’t make sense.
>They both aired on the same network in the west, so all of their monsters must be targeted at the same age demographic.
The conclusion doesn’t follow the premise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:19:34 No.50745859 Report

Quoted By:

>>50724992
based making /vp/edditors COPE, SEETHE and DILATE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:22:55 No.50745878 Report

Quoted By: >>50746018 >>50750116

>>50727859
I recognize that pose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:26:28 No.50745902 Report

Quoted By: >>50746384

>>50744331
>a trope that is lacking in Pokémon.
>>50744875
>Pokémon doesn't do those types of designs
yeah dude, nevermind gardevoir, primarina, tsareena, the tapus, pheromosa, or hatterene. and then you're conveniently leaving out the 'husbandomons'.
>the rise of the furry identity
it's mental illness. kill yourself.
>>50745745
Digimon did air on Fox Kids in most of the western world you dumb mutt. then yidsney bought it after its rebrand to jetix, and killed the last mainstream channel that broadcast anime in the west.
>>50745567
>You don’t think they expect parents to buy Angewomon figurines for their kids right?
they can buy their kids agumon, patamon, and gomamon plushies though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:39:42 No.50746018 Report

Quoted By: >>50750116

>>50745878
thats probably a male komodo btw
(this is the part where you say GOOD! HEHE! im not gay btw)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 22:56:28 No.50746134 Report

Quoted By: >>50746223 >>50746301

>>50724984
Because (normal) human brains are programmed to think sex between a human and a non-human is disgusting. Their genitals are most likely very different from ours. You are just a freak.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:07:17 No.50746223 Report

Quoted By: >>50746235

>>50746134
Being normal sounds awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:08:46 No.50746235 Report

Quoted By: >>50746246

>>50746223
You wouldn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:09:55 No.50746246 Report

Quoted By:

>>50746235
But since you're here, I'm sure you just know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:16:17 No.50746301 Report

Quoted By: >>50746323 >>50746343

>>50744875
>>50746134
How massively do you guys need to cope to convince yourselves this gorgeous angel >>50737959 is supposed to be sexually repellant?
>But it doesn’t have breasts!
Yeah, so? Are you breast partialists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:18:50 No.50746323 Report

Quoted By: >>50746672

>>50746301
It's a Pokémon and that's enough of a turn off for a good chunk of people.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:21:01 No.50746343 Report

Quoted By: >>50746396 >>50747340

>>50746301
That thing looks like an onion leek in a dress. I will never understand straight people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:25:39 No.50746384 Report

Quoted By: >>50746422

>>50745902
>dumb ESL calling others mutts
How ironic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:26:48 No.50746396 Report

Quoted By: >>50746416

>>50746343
look, gays have no place to talk, 90% the husbando threads are barashit
were both in the same shitty taste boat here

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:29:01 No.50746416 Report

Quoted By:

>>50746396
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but literally any form of bara is better than the leek stick thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:29:57 No.50746422 Report

Quoted By: >>50748763

>>50746384
>I'm out of arguments, time to pull the ESL card out of my ass
I accept your concession.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jun 2022 23:59:53 No.50746672 Report

Quoted By:

>>50746323
Cope. Turn ons and turn offs don’t revolve around arbitrary labels.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:10:59 No.50747329 Report

Quoted By:

>>50725116
INSANELY BASED

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:11:37 No.50747340 Report

Quoted By: >>50747372 >>50750127

>>50746343
badgers have the optimal body shape

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:14:00 No.50747372 Report

Quoted By: >>50747652 >>50748104

>>50747340
And softness.
Much better than that toothpick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:27:11 No.50747502 Report

Quoted By: >>50748060

>>50725029
Post proof now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:39:01 No.50747604 Report

Quoted By: >>50747627

>>50735520
>Front facing eyes
>Bipedal
>Hair
>Not a human
Gardevoir is a Kangaroo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:40:51 No.50747627 Report

Quoted By:

>>50747604
>Gardevoir is a Kangaroo
I wanna hop in her belly pouch

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 01:42:32 No.50747652 Report

Quoted By: >>50748085

>>50747372
if only badgermons had more art together

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:16:23 No.50748060 Report

Quoted By: >>50748137 >>50748235 >>50750137

>>50747502
How newfag ARE you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:18:31 No.50748085 Report

Quoted By: >>50748129

>>50747652
Cant find the source but they look female anyway so oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:18:41 No.50748089 Report

Quoted By: >>50748137 >>50748255 >>50750557 >>50751052

Pokémon also canonically don’t have genitals soooo good luck fucking something you can’t penetrate

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:19:39 No.50748104 Report

Quoted By: >>50748126

>>50747372
They’re not sticks. They’re very slender, but they still have human proportions. They have human shoulders, human waists, human thighs...just very slender.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:21:52 No.50748126 Report

Quoted By: >>50748351

>>50748104
A stick figure has human proportions too.
You can do better than something that looks like the drr thing from Enigma of Amigara Fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:22:04 No.50748129 Report

Quoted By: >>50748142

>>50748085
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/36951585/#36989206

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:23:03 No.50748137 Report

Quoted By: >>50748505

>>50748089
>they don't draw dog dicks on muh arcanine, so they have none
That's because it's still a kid's series anon. Despite all that, they've long been inferring human/pokémon relationships regardless.
>>50748060

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:23:18 No.50748142 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748129
Im not bi, but could be worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:30:37 No.50748235 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748060
I knew about this one, I meant post the SWSH one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:32:06 No.50748255 Report

Quoted By: >>50750148

>>50748089
>canonically don’t have genitals
Really? I doubt they'd actually confirm it or not but is there evidence?
I know Clefairy pees in the old manga but who knows how that canon works

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:36:19 No.50748302 Report

Quoted By:

>>50725116
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:40:24 No.50748351 Report

Quoted By: >>50748379

>>50748126
>A stick figure has human proportions too.
No it doesn’t? It’s a shapeless pattern of lines with a circle on top.
Gardevoir have human proportions. Their thighs thicken slightly towards the torso. Their torsos narrow at the waist. You can see the arch of their backs. If you look at their model without the gown, you can see the basic outline of a butt. They’re not sticks, they’re clearly modeled after the human form.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:42:20 No.50748379 Report

Quoted By: >>50749155

>>50748351
>It’s a shapeless pattern of lines with a circle on top.
So Gardevoir then except marginally thicker. Barely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 02:52:26 No.50748505 Report

Quoted By: >>50748711 >>50749210 >>50750114

>>50748137
Sex canonically doesnt exist in pokemon anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 03:12:49 No.50748711 Report

Quoted By: >>50749325

>>50748505
Canonically does anon, that's why two males will never produce eggs at a daycare/nursery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 03:19:18 No.50748763 Report

Quoted By: >>50748902

>>50746422
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 03:32:02 No.50748902 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748763
>better start projecting that will show him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 04:01:13 No.50749155 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748379
In the anime they aren’t much smaller than some of the human girls, like Shauna.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 04:02:22 No.50749168 Report

Quoted By: >>50752487

>>50724984
I want to marry Ivysaur so bad bros.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 04:07:05 No.50749210 Report

Quoted By: >>50749325 >>50750114

>>50748505

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 04:21:02 No.50749325 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748711
>>50749210
The answer is simple.
Two girls can't make eggs because they'll fight over who gets to raise the baby.
Two males doesn't work either because they can't lay eggs.
When you leave a male and a female, the male provides encouragement to the female and helps her lay the egg. This explains perfectly why the resulting pokemon takes after the female and not the male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 06:27:20 No.50750003 Report

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>>50725116
I love me some good old-fashioned biological warfare and man-made horrors!

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 06:56:56 No.50750076 Report

Quoted By:

>>50725116
>Not becoming a Muslim and spend eternity in paradise with your appointed 72 Vaporeon bride-maid Houris
Please step it up anytime dear Anon…

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 07:09:24 No.50750114 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748505
>>50749210
>Tfw there will be a stork Pokemon that does exactly what you think
>Daycare workers "never seeing them lay eggs" is because Storkmon
>They've never been in any games because they're from a far off region

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 07:10:10 No.50750116 Report

Quoted By:

>>50745878
. .what about it?
>>50746018
rent free

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 07:15:46 No.50750127 Report

Quoted By:

>>50747340
Made for tongue-fucking a shiny Butterfree's tight bugussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 07:17:55 No.50750137 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748060
>still no art of based granny getting YEEN'd
I hate being a poorfag sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 07:19:53 No.50750148 Report

Quoted By: >>50750557 >>50751930

>>50748255
Please post that manga page - and let him rebute it by saying that Clefairy cocks are for pissing only, or some dumb shit like that…

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 09:14:48 No.50750557 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748089
>>50750148
I hate this but it's real

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 12:01:46 No.50751052 Report

Quoted By:

>>50748089
thats why you make your own hole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 15:16:52 No.50751930 Report

Quoted By: >>50752319

>>50750148
Piss-only penis LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 16:11:54 No.50752319 Report

Quoted By:

>>50751930
A pussy has two holes afterall dear Anon…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 16:38:20 No.50752487 Report

Quoted By:

>>50749168
finally some fucking taste

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jun 2022 19:11:34 No.50753437 Report

Quoted By:

>there was no /FF/ made yesterday
I wanted to redeem myself, that one lemon I have posted last year gotten an update at late May and would like to share it…

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